Fox News Debate (12/15) OFFICIAL Thread

[ross11988]

Real ID is back

 

[PastaRocket848]

This debate didn't help, but I doubt it will be too incredibly consequential.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Paul really needs to conclude his foreign policy answers with "Make no mistake about it, if the United States was under a serious natural security threat, not the fabricated propaganda we are hearing now, with the support of Congress, I would take swift and immediate action to defeat our enemy and bring our troops home as quickly as possible."

Yup, that would be good. He kinda said it, but it cannot be said too much.

 

[wgadget]

Yeah, but unfortunately most voters aren't nuanced. You're missing the point... no one here is saying Ron's position is wrong, we're saying he didn't package it well. Regardless of what you think, marketing matters... packaging matters... brand matters. You can have the best positions in the world (Ron does) but if you can't SELL it, what does it matter? No one is saying it's the end of the world (ok, maybe a few did just saying that he took a hit - a hit which was completely unavoidable if he would just stick to the talking points that work.

I thought his passion on the issue was sincere. What else do you want?

 

[sevin]

Ron Paul destroyed neocon Bachman. All the trolls here pretending Paul did bad....lol

All of the trolls have low post counts and recent join dates.

Yea, I hate to jump to conclusions and use the T-word, but there is very little reason to be pessimistic. Ron Paul has been saying these things all along and he is polling better than ever!

 

[LoneWolf]

Loved watching Paul get into the fight with Bachmann...its awesome he showed he has some fight in him when the need be.

 

[afwjam]

Ron Paul is off the charts on Twitter!

 

[aravoth]

So, let me guess, Ron Paul talked like Ron Paul and all the usual suspects are wetting their pants.

That about the long and short of it?

Yep, that about sums it up..

 

[ropo]

lol this forum reminds me of a sports forum I go to, one bad play and everyone dumps on the team. Don't put all your chips on one debate

 

[libertyfanatic]

Baffled by the negative comments on here. Everyone in Iowa knows Ron's position on foreign policy. Sure, we might not get the hardcore, pro-Bush neocon vote but we were never going to get that anyway.

 

[vita3]

Ron is doing more than fine!

So tired of the fools trying to drum the war w/ Iran.

We are broke & the blow-back on that war would be 10X more than afghanistan & iraq combines.

 

[kill the banks]

Mostly trolls. Don't feed em.

expect a few

 

[tfurrh]

What happens when you get pulled over, and you forgot your e-verify card at the house?

 

[DerekB]

VEry glad Ron kept after it and kept going after Bachmann despite Bret's demand that he stop. He needed to clarify, and his clarifications were far superior to his original answers.

 

[Banksy]

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[runningdiz]

Unfortunately, you're right. Whatever chance Ron had to win Iowa is now gone. Why does he care more about being pure than winning an election? This is just sad and depressing.

If you don't know the answer to that question why do you support him?

Ron cares more about ideas than winning elections. He will never change his message or back down from his ideas even if they're unpopular.

 

[Standing Liberty]

Newt lies

 

[puppetmaster]

isn't there some Jewish group that organizes web attacks when they feel it goes against Israel?

Are they here tonight or what

 

[libertyfanatic]

Gingrich always says that he will do (insert idea) on his first day. Thats going to be one busy day for him

 

[Brett85]

neg rep.

You know better. Don't bring that shit into the forum.

Neg rep for you as well. I'm just telling the truth. It's sad that people aren't allowed to be honest here.