Fox News 2016 Republican presidential debate in Cleveland - Official Thread

Fox basically controls the election, they are manipulating everyone to be anti-Paul and anti-liberty.

For a former attorney, Chris Christie sure seems to know nothing about the Constitution.
 
It's amazing that Luntz says he's finished with politics and then comes back and does his stick for Fox. As he himself says, he has no life but this. Par for the course then, because if it wasn't for politics he'd be selling soap.
 
Someone needs to get Charles some oxygen. How could anyone think Christie got the dig on Rand? Oh yeah if you are an establishment warmonger neocon...
Yeah... providing thought for the masses while hiding behind the veil of pseudo-objectivity. Who could've ever expected that on Fox "News"?
 
In these early debates, the less time Rand Paul gets, the more hardened his supporters become. The rEVOLution becomes more united when we see these things happen.
 
krauthammer calls this the "Collapse of Trump".
Whatever.

He didn't collapse, and did quite well for someone who's a businessman first and a politician third.
I thought Rand did a good job also, as well as a few of the other candidates.
It's really difficult to say just who won this debate, all candidates had their moments.
 
and this would be good thing? Trump support would go to Cruz, maybe to Christie or Carly

What are you basing that assumption from?

If Trump crashed, the polls would likely go back to pre-Trump poll spike combined with the results of tonight.

How the hell would Christie get Trumps supporters? Totally not even in each others' venn diagrams.
 
He also has none of the right positions.

Hillary Clinton has the same enemies.

Wall Street loves Hillary. And many republican donors would take Hillary over some of our guys.
 
Why do you keep trying to make it seem like Trump is anti establishment?

he is anti-establishment. not a libertarian, but he is surely not the choice of the GOP establishment. the establishment wants Walker-Rubio ticket. or Kasich Rubio.
 
Does it worry you that Rand got asked ONE question in the first hour and 20 minutes? What about Rand getting lumped in with Trump as being the only two candidates that got hurt in this debate according to there post debate coverage? These two issues is what you ought to be worried about and if this happened to Ron this forum would be on fire!!

Oh and according to Kruthammer just now Christie was one of the winners in this debate due to him getting the best of Rand Paul! This is BS and totally scripted by fox news they new that exchange was planned just as their postive debate biased coverage!!
No because I expected it. Rand did good jumping in.
 
These shit for brains people employed by Fox News are the most dishonest people you'll ever see.
 
Megyn got in that Rand was fiery and she seemed to be coming from the angle that she thought Rand did well and Wallace just completely ignored it and brought up Bush
 
The postmortem is surprisingly Jeb-free so far. They just said he looked pale.
 
As much of a court jester as Trump is, rooting for him just to stick to those arseholes at Fox is fun. What does it say about having the right enemies? My lord they'd support Hilary over him.
 
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