You finally get something correct.
And you still haven't. Ron Paul 2012 was/is a lying, corrupt, GARBAGE of a campaign. And any staffers involved trying to defend it, are pathetic IMO.
I've been more right, than you ever have here.
Of course it is. The only reason to be involved in politics is to gain power. Just like the only reason to be in business is to gain money.
Not according to the oath Rand, and other Congressmen take. Power has little to do with why Rand is supposed to be running for President, assuming he is. The only reason "power" would be needed, would be to continue to ignore that oath. It doesn't take power to follow the Constitution, especially as President. Less, is more. Or, supposed to be.
I didn't vote for Ron Paul thinking he was going to be a king, I voted because I thought he set the world record for number of presidential vetoes. My expectations, were pretty low, but realistic with what I expect a constitutional presidential candidate to achieve these days.
Imagine someone starting a business and they didn't want to make money. Doesn't make much sense does it?
Non-profits exist. Some people start businesses, for purposes other than making money. Some people do things, at their own expense. Something you probably don't know about, considering your billed Ron Paul 2012 for the likes of $1,000 for your "expenses", while supporters were paying their own way to the RNC and state conventions.
Being in politics and not wanting to win* makes zero since either.
Yeah, until you make a backroom deal with another campaign and don't tell supporters, because you're in politics for your future job and your future finances. Like certain Ron Paul 2012 staffers.
And yes, if you run, you should run to win. I don't see Rand as having a chance right now, if a Mike Huckabee type candidate runs.
*Winning doesn't always mean getting elected to office.
For the majority of supporters, yes it does. It's why they donate to a POLITICAL PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN. To get A PERSON ELECTED.
Yes, I pay more attention than you, based on my history of posts and your history of posts, and I pay attention from a realistic side. I don't think those people will give in the end when it matters, as I don't think they are really so stupid to believe Rand is one of them, IF he is simply playing the game.
You do realize that Ron's take on foreign policy is not a winning position, right? Being nuanced or at least having the correct rhetoric is required to win.
Ron's take on foreign policy is not only the winning position, it is the constitutional, American, conservative position. Not my problem Rand is apparently surrounding himself with political losers, and doesn't have better talking points.
Your ignorance and lack of campaign experience is showing.
The only ignorant one here, is yourself at this point.
The 2012 PCC was NOT a failure... it built lists, created new donors, nearly won Iowa, spooked the establishment, changed the debate, built networks in many states, and yes it even got people to think about issues in a different light.
Ron Paul 2012 was a failure. It wasted millions of dollars, AND months of time. Lied to supporters for months, helped Mitt Romney win the nomination using liberty supporters' money. It wasted supporters time by continuously pitching a fake delegate strategy they had no intention of actually pursuing (ask the Louisiana supporters), for the purpose of raising money they didn't need except for maybe Jesse Benton's and other Ron Paul 2012's staffers legal defense fund.
I wouldn't call building lists, based on lies, an accomplishment. It would be like the NSA saying it's made a great accomplishment building a terrorists list, by listening to every single American phone call.
Ron Paul 2012 was so inept in its messaging to voters, that despite having the most passionate supporters, and having the most conservative constitutional candidate, it got fewer votes, despite raising more money than Rick Santorum. Ron Paul 2012, couldn't get more votes than Rick Santorum.
How many campaigns have you worked on? How many campaigns have you won?
More than you. But those don't have anything to do with this. What's your college education? Degrees? Are you married? Do you have children? What's your favorite type of pizza? Do you like ad hominems?
That "quote" was taken out of context and was received differently than it was intended.
No, the quote was not taken out of context, liar. You can ignore it, not listen to it, and try to change it after the fact, but it was not taken out of context. Here it is again, for the record and FULL context:
Thats because you don't know what youre talking about and have zero understanding of what it takes to win a Presidential election.
I know exactly what I'm talking about, and what it takes to win a Presidential election. Ron Paul 2012 had it with the supporters, just not in the actual campaign. I guess it's hard to win a Presidential election, when you're raising funds for your legal defense fund, lying to supporters, and helping another candidate win the nomination though.
He will likely win NH and Iowa, SC and FL won't matter after that.
If Mike Huckabee, or a candidate like him, runs, I do not see Rand winning Iowa. Iowa might not even be winnable to him, because of the dishonesty that was/is Ron Paul 2012 and their actions in the state. That's why I have said I think he'll concentrate more on New Hampshire, but perhaps use Iowa as a "strong finish" showing. Outside of New Hampshire, I don't see where he goes. Maybe Maine and Wisconsin. But, McCain won South Carolina and Florida, and Romney was able to win Florida, despite losing South Carolina.
And if you discourage people from helping Rand win, then you are actively working against the cause of liberty.
You have continuously tried and failed to defend what was/is a lying, corrupt, dishonest campaign, and you are actively working against the cause of liberty doing so. Truth and liberty are like peanut butter and jelly. I'm here for the CAUSE OF LIBERTY, and liberty supporters, not for the cause of padding Jesse Benton's, Matt Collins', or Rand Paul's pockets. Especially not for the cause of funding their legal defense funds.