Former Ron staffer: "Rand Must Denounce His Father To Win The Nomination"

Deborah K said:
How can you, in all good conscience, believe that a man running for president "erecting a firewall between himself and his Father" (The founding father of our movement no less) is good for the country???? It's a complete contradiction for what we're supposed to stand for. Is nothing sacred anymore?
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This^^^

RonPaulFanInGA said:
Media trying to stir up crap is all this is. You can bet every word out of Ron Paul's mouth will have some dumb blogger "demanding" to know if Rand Paul believes it too. If I was Rand Paul, I'd just ignore it, the media doesn't hold any other politician to this ridiculous standard.
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Exactly.


The guy who wrote this is just trying to stir the shit pot.
 
Suzanimal said:
The guy who wrote this is just trying to stir the shit pot.
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It appears to be working too. Just look at this thread. Rand Paul hasn't said one word, but some media shill writes an article suggesting something and people here fly off the handle.
 
RonPaulFanInGA said:
It appears to be working too. Just look at this thread. Rand Paul hasn't said one word, but some media shill writes an article suggesting something and people here fly off the handle.
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Yeah. It's sad though that this media shill used to be a (paid?) staffer.
 
I think Rand should take every opportunity to remind voters that there is only 1% difference between his opinions and those of his father's (see LE's sig line for YouTube Link)
 
Suzanimal said:
Someone who would throw a loving parent under the bus for political gain isn't someone who has the testicular fortitude to govern the way I'd like, jmho.
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So,
I guess this would be a good place to point out, again, that, despite what half of you choose to believe on the matter, this in fact already happened.
 
Ron Paul has said some very accurate things about foreign policy and policing the world and intervention vs non-intervention, I don't see why Rand would have to insult his father over something petty ,all he has to say is "Im my own man, don't judge me by my father ,should anyone be judged by their fathers beliefs or statements?" simple as that
 
Lol.... anyone who thinks that Rand would ACTUALLY DENOUNCE his father are really drinking the media kewl-aid. Never happen. Move on to next troll-bait topic.
 
Deborah K said:
So, instead of addressing the lying accusations that are constantly hurled at Ron (anti-Semite, Isolationist, RACIST), Rand should just throw his dad away.

Hey, Rasmussen, take your master's degree and .............
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fold it until it's all corners and...
 
jmdrake said:
Rand needs to denounce former staffers like this guy and Jesse Benton. Seriously my biggest worry for Rand 2016 is that Rand doesn't jettison Benton soon enough and right at the wrong time Benton gets dragged down by the pay for endorsement scandal. But if Rand votes Rasmussen's advice (any relation to Rasmussen reports?) and support I might have given him will go to another doctor that may be running. This is about the only thing Rand could do to lose my vote, but he would lose it for sure. Considering that the people Rand might pull from this stunt might be leaning this other doctor's way anyway, loss of Ron's supporters could tip the balance against Rand. Rand needs to keep that in mind.
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QFT, and I hardly ever QFT.
 
Carlybee said:
He would lose my vote if he ever did that.
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Doesn't matter, there aren't enough of "us" to win it. Ron will be under the bus, if that's what it takes for Rand to win the nomination. Because, this is about winning. Unfortunately though, without "us", Rand is going to need to find others to raise $40 million. I don't see that happening if he throws Ron under the bus though. Which means, he will be fighting every single other Republican candidate for fundraising dollars, and not able to run an effective campaign.

But, technically, Rand already is throwing Ron under the bus on the most important issue of foreign policy. Where Ron would tell the truth, where it was painful to do so (being laughed/booed by the audiences at a debate), Rand is now pandering on issues and taking no positions.

Again, Ron Paul 2012 was a complete failure, because it didn't address issues that needed to be addressed. Yes, like the newsletters, in a professional sit-down, NATIONAL interview. Like on Meet the Press.

Rand Paul is/will be distancing himself from Ron, because of the attack ads that Rand is going to be hit with in 2016. When Romney's campaign threatened to "forever destroy" (whatever the exact quote was) Ron Paul's legacy, what made anybody in Ron Paul 2012 think that wouldn't be used against Rand in 2016? That shows why their dishonesty was just a tip of the iceberg when making a backroom deal with the devil.

I've said it before, I'll say it again, I don't see a strategy for Rand Paul right now to win the 2016 Republican nomination. Yes, he may win New Hampshire, but the important states after that like South Carolina and Florida, I don't see it happening. If he doesn't have a CLEAR strategy to win it, I don't think he should run. Don't waste more supporters' money and more importantly time, with no clear strategy.
 
jjdoyle said:
there aren't enough of "us" to win it.
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You finally get something correct.


jjdoyle said:
this is about winning.
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Of course it is. The only reason to be involved in politics is to gain power. Just like the only reason to be in business is to gain money.


Imagine someone starting a business and they didn't want to make money. Doesn't make much sense does it? :rolleyes:

Being in politics and not wanting to win* makes zero since either.


*Winning doesn't always mean getting elected to office



jjdoyle said:
Unfortunately though, without "us", Rand is going to need to find others to raise $40 million.
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Have you been paying attention:

http://valleywag.gawker.com/rand-paul-opening-silicon-valley-office-to-fund-expecte-1637671354

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101796057


jjdoyle said:
But, technically, Rand already is throwing Ron under the bus on the most important issue of foreign policy. Where Ron would tell the truth, where it was painful to do so (being laughed/booed by the audiences at a debate), Rand is now pandering on issues and taking no positions.
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You do realize that Ron's take on foreign policy is not a winning position, right? Being nuanced or at least having the correct rhetoric is required to win.

jjdoyle said:
Again, Ron Paul 2012 was a complete failure, because it didn't address issues that needed to be addressed. Yes, like the newsletters, in a professional sit-down, NATIONAL interview. Like on Meet the Press.
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Your ignorance and lack of campaign experience is showing.

The 2012 PCC was NOT a failure... it built lists, created new donors, nearly won Iowa, spooked the establishment, changed the debate, built networks in many states, and yes it even got people to think about issues in a different light.

How many campaigns have you worked on? How many campaigns have you won?


jjdoyle said:
When Romney's campaign threatened to "forever destroy" (whatever the exact quote was) Ron Paul's legacy, what made anybody in Ron Paul 2012 think that wouldn't be used against Rand in 2016?
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That "quote" was taken out of context and was received differently than it was intended.

jjdoyle said:
I've said it before, I'll say it again, I don't see a strategy for Rand Paul right now to win the 2016 Republican nomination.
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Thats because you don't know what youre talking about and have zero understanding of what it takes to win a Presidential election.


jjdoyle said:
Yes, he may win New Hampshire, but the important states after that like South Carolina and Florida, I don't see it happening. If he doesn't have a CLEAR strategy to win it, I don't think he should run. Don't waste more supporters' money and more importantly time, with no clear strategy.
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He will likely win NH and Iowa, SC and FL won't matter after that.

And if you discourage people from helping Rand win, then you are actively working against the cause of liberty.
 
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