Ferguson decision is in -- NO INDICTMENT

[UWDude]

The Social Justice Warrior rot has come to the Ron Paul forums.

Defending robbers and looters will crush the legitimacy out of the liberty movement.

What about defending child molesters (David Koresh) and White Separatists (ruby ridge?)

I still do, because it is not about their minor crimes, it is about the mass murder of the state.

 

[orenbus]

In the clip here, the wine store owner goes balls out on defense for his store, then changes his mind at the end. I'm very curious as to whether his store was one of the targets.

Does anyone know? Because, if so, I'm guessing he really regrets his decision now.

His store is near the county court house in Clayton in an affluent neighborhood most of the destruction was in Ferguson and Delwood, about 10 minutes away, he wasn't affected.

 

[presence]

If they were smart in Ferguson, they would have targeted government buildings.

It seems the broader "organized" national protests were all targeted at closing government roads and bridges.

If I had to guess... of the 17 buildings in Ferguson that were lit on fire... maybe 3 arsonists were involved. I suspect the same 3 that lit the 12 cop cars on fire.

The looting? Opportunist criminal class, certainly sympathetic to the protesters... while equally certainly looting for profit not civil disobedience.

Most of the people I saw on the streets were not protesters or looters... they were a bunch of lookyloos like the crowd gathered around a high school fist fight.

 

[orenbus]

I have to say, I don't think that's a good comparison. The Ferguson aggression looks to be more like random rage; destroying their own neighborhoods like the morons during the Rodney King trials. The tea dumping was planned and strategic, and used to propagandize British oppression. If they were smart in Ferguson, they would have targeted government buildings.

Agreed. While we were watching what was happening we were thinking the same thing, the people there though couldn't target the government buildings because of the national guard and police presence specifically protecting those buildings, although some tried. I heard a couple of bricks were thrown and broke glass windows of the local court house, and they started a fire near a neighboring town police station, but ended up being a firehouse. They couldn't get close enough to the government buildings.

 

[Philhelm]

Hav eyou ever tried to target a government building? Lots of bravado and bluster here, (and on the internet in general). Everybody is always so brave, and wonderful strategists from behind their keyboards.

I successfully attacked Area 51 in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. I also went on multiple cop-killing sprees. Does that count?

 

[tod evans]

Ummm,

Buildings aren't the problem here folks....

 

[Anti Federalist]

What about defending child molesters (David Koresh) and White Separatists (ruby ridge?)

I still do, because it is not about their minor crimes, it is about the mass murder of the state.

Koresh was fully investigated by the state, and no evidence of "child molestation" was found.

Also, FYI, roughly half of the Davidians at that church and those murdered by the USG were "non white".

 

[Anti Federalist]

Most of the people I saw on the streets were not protesters or looters... they were a bunch of lookyloos like the crowd gathered around a high school fist fight.

This.

More cameras and sail-fawns than anything else.

 

[orenbus]

Some street interviews at the height of what was happening, shows a armed store owner near the police station, etc.

 

[orenbus]

Ummm,

Buildings aren't the problem here folks....

 

[Brian4Liberty]

I'm not sure where that picture was from, but there was only one Korean killed during those riots. And he was killed by friendly fire.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lan...d-defending-businesses-in-random-attacks.html
Edward Song Lee, an 18-year-old Asian man, was shot and killed Thursday, April 30, 1992, in Koreatown. Lee, a Korean American, was attempting to protect shops near 3rd Street and Hobart Boulevard when he was apparently shot by fellow Korean Americans who mistook him for a looter.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/LA-Riots-20-Years-Later-148333545.html
The parents of Eddie Lee, the LA Riots’ only Korean-American victim, visit their son’s grave twice a month – meticulously tending to the raised letters, clipping the grass and wiping the tiny image of their...

I had that same question...

 

[UWDude]

Koresh was fully investigated by the state, and no evidence of "child molestation" was found.

Also, FYI, roughly half of the Davidians at that church and those murdered by the USG were "non white".

even if he was guilty... ...the kids twisted to death by CS gas certainly were not child molesters. But the whole defense of the ATF, FBI etc was focused on one man. Just like it is all being focused on Michael Brown today.

 

[twomp]

Target a government building and go from being a rioter/looter into a domestic terrorist. Great advice!

 

[Deborah K]

In the last clip: "Blowing up a building can change the world."

It's true. It changed us........

 

[Deborah K]

Target a government building and go from being a rioter/looter into a domestic terrorist. Great advice!

Hav eyou ever tried to target a government building? Lots of bravado and bluster here, (and on the internet in general). Everybody is always so brave, and wonderful strategists from behind their keyboards.

I was arm-chair quarterbacking. But the reality is, the time is coming when there will be a revolt. Mark my words. And destroying your own neighborhood is a dumbass way to do it. just sayin

 

[PRB]

Koresh was fully investigated by the state, and no evidence of "child molestation" was found.

Also, FYI, roughly half of the Davidians at that church and those murdered by the USG were "non white".

There's two people this government hates : minorities because our government is racist, and white supremacists because the government is communist. Half were non white meaning half were white.

 

[orenbus]

Hmmm...food for thought Deb....my take is, and i could be wrong, but biz brings in tax money. Take away that revenue, and local government gets stressed. How stressed is the big question.

It maybe misdirected rage or some form of logic to reduce revenue to a government that doesn't represent the people of the community or a mix of both, but one thing is clear I would think by now many if not most of the protestors in Ferguson understand that the local police department is running a business and what they are providing for-profit law enforcement at the expense of the individual, a policy that targets the least economically well off.

"The city of Ferguson's second-highest source of revenue is court fees and traffic tickets"
"$2.6 million a year in fines and court fees, typically from small-scale infractions like traffic violations."

For a low-income community--and for a black community subjected to the racial profiling, as the report documents--these fines can gather force like a boulder rolling downhill.

And racial profiling appears to be the rule. In Ferguson, "86% of vehicle stops involved a black motorist, although blacks make up just 67% of the population," the report states. "After being stopped in Ferguson, blacks are almost twice as likely as whites to be searched (12.1% vs. 7.9%) and twice as likely to be arrested." But those searches result in the discovery of contraband at a much lower rate than searches of whites.

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-the-ferguson-crisis-20140821-column.html

 

[Deborah K]

It wasn't "government" tea. That concept didn't come about until LBJ.

It doesn't matter that it wasn't government tea. The issue was over government taxation of said tea. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Act

 

[orenbus]

Target a government building and go from being a rioter/looter into a domestic terrorist. Great advice!

Not advice, just the perspective of I'm sure some on the ground there.

Who is the terrorist when buildings and monuments are constructed by politicians and LEO through revenue generated by a local oppressive for-profit government. Everyone has a breaking point for those of us not affected by what happens in Ferguson we can look at things perhaps in a different light, some would say more objectively, but for those that live in a toxic environment that perspective would be largely different and the disparities of what generates these views is what should be addressed.

 

[seapilot]

Something not shown much in the media. This is how to stop looters. The american way.

http://www.libertynews.com/2014/11/...d-ferguson-strip-mall-from-protester-looting/

Businessmen Armed With AR-15 Rifles Saved Ferguson Strip Mall From Protester Looting


A group of business owners in Ferguson saved their strip mall shops from being looted and burned by standing guard outside their shops armed with AR-15 semi-automatic rifles–the same sort of guns liberals falsely claim are “assault weapons.”
The business owners formed their little armed security team after some of the shops were vandalized in August during the first series of riots in the troubled St. Louis suburb.

Along West Florissant just north of 270, in Greystone Plaza, about 20 men with handguns and AR-15 rifles stood around the perimeter of the parking lot, guarding the dozen or so stores. They estimated that 100 cars had come by throughout the night, seemingly to check the place out, but turned away. Mike Cross, the owner of St. Louis Ink at the plaza, said: “There’s nothing in this strip mall open, so you’re going to get scrutinized.”