Ferguson decision is in -- NO INDICTMENT

[juleswin]

I just have to reply after watching the first 2 mins of this guy. I know its always better to hear all 30mins out before commenting but since I am about to leave the apt and I usually cant stomach 30mins of anything that's not a movie or documentary, I will reply anyway just on only the 2 mins that I have watched.

I find it weird that this anti statist will buy the decisions of the grand jury that was made in secret this easily. Don't get me wrong, there is always a possibility that everything that was done in the secret was fair to both sides and at the end they found no evidence that warranted a trial. But to assume that the state conducting what could easily be considered an internal investigation with state prosecutors on one side and the state worker on the other side will not be biased against against Mike Brown is just silly.

I don't know what really happened but I would still prefer some sort of a public trial, I want to see the evidence, hear the witnesses and then decide for myself what really happened. This is not the first time a policeman have gotten off the hook via grand jury investigation for something that is so blatantly police overreaction (not saying this one is).

 

[Danke]

I find it weird that this anti statist will buy the decisions of the grand jury that was made in secret this easily. Don't get me wrong, there is always a possibility that everything that was done in the secret was fair to both sides and at the end they found no evidence that warranted a trial.

For being secret, there sure has been a lot of information made public so far. And witnesses are allowed to speak publicly.

 

[Deborah K]

Boy ain't that the truth.

Anyone believing that the uppermost levels of Empire could give a fundamental damn about race is fooling themselves.

Speaking of which, back in 2000 when I was still raking in the cash, the Evil One (ex gf and perennial bitch) dragged me to a timeshare facility in Scottsdale for some sales event. As we were doing the tour, out by the pool was a young black d00d. He was well put together and had a pistol on his hip. I got all warm and fuzzy feeling as I am wont in the presence of my armed fellows. The couple behind us, from Ill-Annoy and clearly liberals based on their conversations which they seemed determined to let the whole community in on, basically shit a pickle. The woman nervously alerted her husband to the "negro" (I shit you not - she called him that) with a gun. The two were most uncomfortable from that time onward and I suspect no sale was forthcoming there, that day.

Off topic, but this reminded me of the time when my husband and I went to the Grand Canyon. We drove our RV from Cali to AZ and stayed at a KOA about 25 miles away. We got one of those tour packages where they come and get you, feed you lunch, etc.. On the way there, the topics of politics and social issues came up. Everyone in the van who was chiming in, except Mark and I, was being sooooooo PC in their responses to things we were saying. Mark and I kept looking at each other and were becoming annoyed. Eventually, I couldn't contain myself any longer and blurted out: "Political Correctness is going to get us all killed." The driver busted out laughing. They all went into defense mode. Then, we finally get to the parking lot at the Grand Canyon, and some idiot with his dumbass family was taking up the parking spaces on each side of their car trying to get their shit together, completely oblivious to the fact that the parking lot was full, and that they were holding people up. Everyone in the van was getting edgy about it, so after about 5 minutes of this shit, I opened the door and told the guy to please move so we could get in. He just ignored me. So I yelled at him, and then he finally picked his crap up and moved it behind his car so we could get in. One of the PC women in the van scolded me and said: "You shouldn't have done that - you don't know if he had a gun. What if he had a gun?" To which I replied: "He doesn't know if I have one either." She says: "Well, we don't need the OK Corral in the parking lot at the Grand Canyon." I snorted: "Look lady, if it were up to you, we'd still be waiting in the Van, and you'd still be complaining about him. He moved, we're parked, and nobody's been shot. But your politically correct cowardice has been noted." I didn't hear what she said because she was walking off, but I don't think it was: "Have a nice day."

 

[phill4paul]

Off topic, but this reminded me of the time when my husband and I went to the Grand Canyon. We drove our RV from Cali to AZ and stayed at a KOA about 25 miles away. We got one of those tour packages where they come and get you, feed you lunch, etc.. On the way there, the topics of politics and social issues came up. Everyone in the van who was chiming in, except Mark and I, was being sooooooo PC in their responses to things we were saying. Mark and I kept looking at each other and were becoming annoyed. Eventually, I couldn't contain myself any longer and blurted out: "Political Correctness is going to get us all killed." The driver busted out laughing. They all went into defense mode. Then, we finally get to the parking lot at the Grand Canyon, and some idiot with his dumbass family was taking up the parking spaces on each side of their car trying to get their shit together, completely oblivious to the fact that the parking lot was full, and that they were holding people up. Everyone in the van was getting edgy about it, so after about 5 minutes of this shit, I opened the door and told the guy to please move so we could get in. He just ignored me. So I yelled at him, and then he finally picked his crap up and moved it behind his car so we could get in. One of the PC women in the van scolded me and said: "You shouldn't have done that - you don't know if he had a gun. What if he had a gun?" To which I replied: "He doesn't know if I have one either." She says: "Well, we don't need the OK Corral in the parking lot at the Grand Canyon." I snorted: "Look lady, if it were up to you, we'd still be waiting in the Van, and you'd still be complaining about him. He moved, we're parked, and nobody's been shot. But your politically correct cowardice has been noted." I didn't hear what she said because she was walking off, but I don't think it was: "Have a nice day."

Lol. I would have imagined this was some time ago before you could carry in National parks. You probably could have replied "But this is a gun-free zone, honey. He couldn't possibly have one." and see how that sat with her.

 

[Deborah K]

Lol. I would have imagined this was some time ago before you could carry in National parks. You probably could have replied "But this is a gun-free zone, honey. He couldn't possibly have one." and see how that sat with her.

Probably. He was speaking Farsi to his large family, and I'm wondering if his nationality had something to do with their fear. She was just so fearful. They all were. They were so very conscious of using the right words when they spoke, and making sure not to offend. Except when it came to me, of course. I became an easy target because I didn't think like they did. That incident really opened our eyes.

 

[JK/SEA]

Probably. He was speaking Farsi to his large family, and I'm wondering if his nationality had something to do with their fear. She was just so fearful. They all were. They were so very conscious of using the right words when they spoke, and making sure not to offend. Except when it came to me, of course. I became an easy target because I didn't think like they did. That incident really opened our eyes.

good story Deb. I just last week had a longtime 'friend' threaten me. We were going back and forth about the police state, and finally he tells me i'm 'scaring' him, and that he's 'thinking' of sending my emails to the cops. Well, guess what?...he's not my friend anymore. Crazy bastard went waaaay over the line....shocked the hell out of me. So far, no cops at my door.....yet.

 

[JK/SEA]

Hey, I got a question. It's really easy to answer. If you're a Libertarian-Republican, and you believe in Liberty, then why do you constantly espouse hardcore marxist ideas?

hey, i got a question. Guess what it is...

 

[jmdrake]

All around America, these people are killing without consequence, and by and large the traditional electorate will defend it, because the only examples they are allowed to see are people like Michael Brown. Forcing the ambiguous ones to the top as a wedge to wedge people apart and keep us divided.

Miriam Cary was executed by the American Police State. The Police State has totally encroached most of the United States. The Police State has adopted a wartime footing, and applies a Rules Of Engagement that belongs in a combat zone.

The State has been able to kill black men without consequence for a very long time. What is new, is the ability to kill pretty much anybody without consequence. The Police State is applying those lessons, and you can bet the first cold blooded white killing that explodes across the news cycle will be a thug of some kind. Another stage of division.

True. Except I would add that the first cold blooded white killings already happened and the "white supremacist/extremist" meme was used. Remember Waco and Ruby Ridge? I am ashamed to admit this, but in the Ruby Ridge killing I still struggle being sympathetic knowing that the Weaver family were white nationalists. But the way the mom was shot in cold blood by a sniper was inexcusable. And all over a guy with a shotgun and a hacksaw.

 

[JK/SEA]

True. Except I would add that the first cold blooded white killings already happened and the "white supremacist/extremist" meme was used. Remember Waco and Ruby Ridge? I am ashamed to admit this, but in the Ruby Ridge killing I still struggle being sympathetic knowing that the Weaver family were white nationalists. But the way the mom was shot in cold blood by a sniper was inexcusable. And all over a guy with a shotgun and a hacksaw.

the Weavers were Seperatists...not sure of the Nationalist label though..

 

[moostraks]

good story Deb. I just last week had a longtime 'friend' threaten me. We were going back and forth about the police state, and finally he tells me i'm 'scaring' him, and that he's 'thinking' of sending my emails to the cops. Well, guess what?...he's not my friend anymore. Crazy bastard went waaaay over the line....shocked the hell out of me. So far, no cops at my door.....yet.

My sympathies. My S.O.B. First husband, the guy who held me hostage and tried to kill me years ago, popped up almost a year ago wanting to "friend" me, yeah I could write novels on some weird crap in my life. Well, friend me he may not but I have listened to him when he randomly messages me and he called me one of "those" people because I don't have a high opinion of LEOs or government authority. Then he proceeds to pop some wise comment about he thought I sort of leaned that way years ago. What an a@$hole, esp. after all that has happened. As spooked and paranoid as government is nowadays and as easy as it is for people to lodge complaints it puts a chilling effect on free speech and genuine complaints against government overreach. Morons cannot seem to grasp what making threats like that are actually perpetuating and dig their own grave of abusive government. Unfortunately they take the rest of us with them.

 

[moostraks]

Off topic, but this reminded me of the time when my husband and I went to the Grand Canyon. We drove our RV from Cali to AZ and stayed at a KOA about 25 miles away. We got one of those tour packages where they come and get you, feed you lunch, etc.. On the way there, the topics of politics and social issues came up. Everyone in the van who was chiming in, except Mark and I, was being sooooooo PC in their responses to things we were saying. Mark and I kept looking at each other and were becoming annoyed. Eventually, I couldn't contain myself any longer and blurted out: "Political Correctness is going to get us all killed." The driver busted out laughing. They all went into defense mode. Then, we finally get to the parking lot at the Grand Canyon, and some idiot with his dumbass family was taking up the parking spaces on each side of their car trying to get their shit together, completely oblivious to the fact that the parking lot was full, and that they were holding people up. Everyone in the van was getting edgy about it, so after about 5 minutes of this shit, I opened the door and told the guy to please move so we could get in. He just ignored me. So I yelled at him, and then he finally picked his crap up and moved it behind his car so we could get in. One of the PC women in the van scolded me and said: "You shouldn't have done that - you don't know if he had a gun. What if he had a gun?" To which I replied: "He doesn't know if I have one either." She says: "Well, we don't need the OK Corral in the parking lot at the Grand Canyon." I snorted: "Look lady, if it were up to you, we'd still be waiting in the Van, and you'd still be complaining about him. He moved, we're parked, and nobody's been shot. But your politically correct cowardice has been noted." I didn't hear what she said because she was walking off, but I don't think it was: "Have a nice day."

I <3 this! Lol

 

[Lucille]

Darren Wilson Got a Private Trial Run by Friendly Prosecutors
http://reason.com/blog/2014/11/26/darren-wilson-got-a-private-trial

How Grand Was That Ferguson Grand Jury? A Couple of Perspectives
http://reason.com/blog/2014/11/25/how-grand-was-that-ferguson-grand-jury-a

How often are cops indicted? Almost never. How often are Mundanes? Almost always.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...st-never-How-often-are-Mundanes-Almost-always

 

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[JK/SEA]

DFF...is that you?

 

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[jmdrake]

Yeah, I remember the Koreans during the LA riots:

I'm not sure where that picture was from, but there was only one Korean killed during those riots. And he was killed by friendly fire.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lan...d-defending-businesses-in-random-attacks.html
Edward Song Lee, an 18-year-old Asian man, was shot and killed Thursday, April 30, 1992, in Koreatown. Lee, a Korean American, was attempting to protect shops near 3rd Street and Hobart Boulevard when he was apparently shot by fellow Korean Americans who mistook him for a looter.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/LA-Riots-20-Years-Later-148333545.html
The parents of Eddie Lee, the LA Riots’ only Korean-American victim, visit their son’s grave twice a month – meticulously tending to the raised letters, clipping the grass and wiping the tiny image of their...

 

[Anti Federalist]

True. Except I would add that the first cold blooded white killings already happened and the "white supremacist/extremist" meme was used. Remember Waco and Ruby Ridge? I am ashamed to admit this, but in the Ruby Ridge killing I still struggle being sympathetic knowing that the Weaver family were white nationalists. But the way the mom was shot in cold blood by a sniper was inexcusable. And all over a guy with a shotgun and a hacksaw.

We all do.

I "struggled" with Rodney King and his background over twenty years ago.

(Taking that position almost got me banned from my first online political forum, the old TownHall forum on CompuServe.)

But what happened to him was just flat out wrong, same as what happened to the Weavers.

Wrong is wrong.

Brutal, militarized police know no boundaries.

We, all of us, are "enemy hostiles" as far as they are concerned.

 

[Smitty]

The Social Justice Warrior rot has come to the Ron Paul forums.

Defending robbers and looters will crush the legitimacy out of the liberty movement.

 

[Anti Federalist]

The Social Justice Warrior rot has come to the Ron Paul forums.

Defending robbers and looters will crush the legitimacy out of the liberty movement.

Wut?

 

[JK/SEA]

The Social Justice Warrior rot has come to the Ron Paul forums.

Defending robbers and looters will crush the legitimacy out of the liberty movement.

this 'opinion' of yours is subjective, and biased towards law enforcement. Thanks for playing.