Federal Debt Surges in July as Trump’s Spending Spree Continues

Tariffs Won’t Spawn Good Trade Deals
08/14/2025​
The media is spinning President Trump‘s “trade deals” as a “victory” for the White House. Yet, when we break down these “deals” into their particulars, we find that American producers and consumers will be worse off than before.​
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Time will tell , right now tariffs avg 17 percent and producer price index only went up 1 percent.Personally ive no idea how it all shakes out.Last tme it was over 14 percent was 1938 and last year it was less than 3 , or about same as GDP
 
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Dayum, @Swordsmyth , my good buddy Ryan said your good buddy Howard Lutnick is wrong!

Does that mean you are too???
According to a ChatGPT analysis it costs about 400K per day for the current National Guard deployment in DC. Whle that's a drop in the proverbial bucket, the drops add up.

Edit: And here are ChatGPT sources since some people might question anything AI generated.


From the AI:

Here’s what independent, pre-2025 sources tell us about the cost per day for deploying the National Guard to Washington, D.C.:

Cost Estimates from Previous Deployments​


  • During the George Floyd protests (June 2020), the DC National Guard estimated the cost to deploy up to 5,000 troops was roughly $2.65 million per day. That breaks down to about $530 per service member per day. Reuters

  • A separate estimate from WUSA-TV cited a similar per-troop daily cost of $531.48 per guardsman per day. WUSA9

Summary​

MetricValue
Approx. cost per day (total)~$2.65 million
Cost per guard per day~$530–531
These figures are from June 2020 and likely vary depending on mission specifics—e.g., logistics, lodging, federal vs state activation, and whether air travel or other support costs are included.

Regarding the Current 2025 Deployment​

You've asked about the cost of deploying the National Guard to D.C. under Trump’s recent 2025 order—800 troops activated as of August 2025—but I have not seen any public, published per-day cost estimates for this specific deployment yet.
As of now:


  • There are no verified figures for cost per day or per guard member for the 2025 deployment.

  • However, if costs scale similarly, a rough back-of-the-envelope estimate might suggest around $424,000 per day (i.e., 800 × ~$530), though this is speculative without official data.
 
Specifically, July’s federal spending came in as the highest ever, topping even the grotesque spending of July 2020 during the dark days of the covid panic.

True but June was way lower than normal. Overall spending is up slightly from Feb-July 2025 compared to same time period last year. I'm getting annoyed with both sides playing tricks with the numbers.

You need to go to the source of the data to see what's really happening. We don't need to lie to make Trump look bad, he can do that on his own without any help.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MTSO133FMS

That being said I fully expect the deficits to get higher. We're still in the "boom" period but something is going to break and spending is going to go up.
 
True but June was way lower than normal. Overall spending is up slightly from Feb-July 2025 compared to same time period last year. I'm getting annoyed with both sides playing tricks with the numbers.

You need to go to the source of the data to see what's really happening. We don't need to lie to make Trump look bad, he can do that on his own without any help.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MTSO133FMS

That being said I fully expect the deficits to get higher. We're still in the "boom" period but something is going to break and spending is going to go up.

Yeah, but like OB says:

IOW: There is some point at which the numbers just don't matter anymore.

When it comes to the federal debt, we are past that point.

:up:


As long as I have 2 wheelbarrows full of paper money, I'll be set for a while 😀
 
If you measure the debt by the number of digits its actually not going up that fast

Only goes up by 1 digit every 25-30 years or so
 
If you measure the debt by the number of digits its actually not going up that fast

Only goes up by 1 digit every 25-30 years or so

1 digit, every 25-30 years? Eh, that's nothing. We should all move on to something else now :up:

I guess @Occam's Banana was right... numbers don't always matter 😛
 
Tariffs Won’t Spawn Good Trade Deals
08/14/2025​
The media is spinning President Trump‘s “trade deals” as a “victory” for the White House. Yet, when we break down these “deals” into their particulars, we find that American producers and consumers will be worse off than before.​
Full article:​
Bunk, they already are.
 
According to a ChatGPT analysis it costs about 400K per day for the current National Guard deployment in DC. Whle that's a drop in the proverbial bucket, the drops add up.

Edit: And here are ChatGPT sources since some people might question anything AI generated.


From the AI:

Here’s what independent, pre-2025 sources tell us about the cost per day for deploying the National Guard to Washington, D.C.:

Cost Estimates from Previous Deployments​


  • During the George Floyd protests (June 2020), the DC National Guard estimated the cost to deploy up to 5,000 troops was roughly $2.65 million per day. That breaks down to about $530 per service member per day. Reuters

  • A separate estimate from WUSA-TV cited a similar per-troop daily cost of $531.48 per guardsman per day. WUSA9

Summary​

MetricValue
Approx. cost per day (total)~$2.65 million
Cost per guard per day~$530–531
These figures are from June 2020 and likely vary depending on mission specifics—e.g., logistics, lodging, federal vs state activation, and whether air travel or other support costs are included.

Regarding the Current 2025 Deployment​

You've asked about the cost of deploying the National Guard to D.C. under Trump’s recent 2025 order—800 troops activated as of August 2025—but I have not seen any public, published per-day cost estimates for this specific deployment yet.
As of now:


  • There are no verified figures for cost per day or per guard member for the 2025 deployment.

  • However, if costs scale similarly, a rough back-of-the-envelope estimate might suggest around $424,000 per day (i.e., 800 × ~$530), though this is speculative without official data.
A mere drop in the bucket compared to the costs of the soft on crime policies and the illegals.
 
Should every city with a violent crime rate equal to or higher than Washington be under federal control?

Washington is federal government so its the job of the federal government to make sure its secure.

If there is a security problem in the states the federal government can intervene.

Thats what Abe Lincoln did technically and the supreme court ruled it was constitutional.
 
Washington is federal government so its the job of the federal government to make sure its secure.

If there is a security problem in the states the federal government can intervene.

Thats what Abe Lincoln did technically and the supreme court ruled it was constitutional.

So, yes? Is that yes?
 
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