Federal Ban On GMO Labeling?

[angelatc]

You shouldn't be shocked that someone on RFPs disagrees with you. It happens all the time. I like to know what I am ingesting and I really don't care to eat unnatural GMO foods.

Then eat organic and stop trying to force the federal government to compromise our freedom to satiate your idiosyncrasies.

 

[Travlyr]

Then eat organic and stop trying to force the federal government to compromise our freedom to satiate your idiosyncrasies.

You don't read very well. I am not asking the government to force GMO labeling. I am demanding that my grocer accurately labels my food. My grocer is demanding GMO labeling so that they can accurately label their products. You can eat all the unnatural crap you want. I want to know what I am eating.

 

[angelatc]

You don't read very well. I am not asking the government to force GMO labeling. I am demanding that my grocer accurately labels my food. My grocer is demanding GMO labeling so that they can accurately label their products. You can eat all the unnatural crap you want. I want to know what I am eating.

I read just fine. You are GLAD that the federal government mandates food labeling.

Your grocer is Whole Foods. They are labeling their food. Other grocers are seeking to buy food that is labeled GMO free because they have never been above baseless marketing gimmicks and they aren't about to start now.

Pandering to the lowest common denominator is what they excel at.

 

[Travlyr]

I read just fine. You are GLAD that the federal government mandates food labeling.

Your grocer is Whole Foods. They are labeling their food. Other grocers are seeking to buy food that is labeled GMO free because they have never been above baseless marketing gimmicks and they aren't about to start now.

Pandering to the lowest common denominator is what they excel at.

Whole Foods doesn't want to sell junk unnatural food. You call it the lowest common denominator. I call it high a quality food store.

 

[angelatc]

Whole Foods doesn't want to sell junk unnatural food. You call it the lowest common denominator. I call it high a quality food store.

Maybe you didn't realize it, but my husband is a former Whole Foods executive. They spend a lot of time determining exactly what their market is demanding. They spend pretty much zero time determining if the public perceptions are valid.

Which is as it should be. Their job is to give their people what their people want.

 

[Travlyr]

Maybe you didn't realize it, but my husband is a former Whole Foods executive.

Who cares? I won't hold that against them. I like their business model anyway.

 

[angelatc]

Who cares? I won't hold that against them. I like their business model anyway.

As do I. They're making a crazy amount of money. It's all about the profit.


They only serve to give their customers the food that their customers want, nothing more. They saw a niche that wasn't being pandered to, and they pandered to it. And they get paid a premium for it.

 

[Travlyr]

As do I. But they only serve to give their customers the food that their customers want, nothing more. They saw a niche that wasn't being pandered to, and they pandered to it.

Right, high quality natural food grown and inspected by the grocer over and above the government inspectors. I like their business model and can trust their quality. I enjoy their beef, pork, breads, and vegetables as most of them are grown by local growers who embrace organic and free range farming. There is no Chinese garbage meat on their shelves. By 2018 they will not have any GMO products on their shelves either.

 

[angelatc]

10th Amendment. Should be decided by each State.

The only reason people want GMO stuff at all is because of the levels of dishonesty that comes from producers. Naa, we should be required to label Phen Phen as unsafe, its a pill, what sould go wrong!

You're always a fountain of misinformation. Phen Phen wasn't a pill. It was a combination of two medicines, and was never approved by the FDA for use in combination for weight loss.

WHen the FDA discovered there were indeed health issues created by the off-label prescribing that the doctors were doing, they issued warnings and stopped it.

But you and yours have absolutely no credible information that GMO foods are harmful. You're essentially running around screeching "They're witches! Burn them!!!"

 

[angelatc]

Right, high quality natural food grown and inspected by the grocer over and above the government inspectors. I like their business model and can trust their quality. I enjoy their beef, pork, breads, and vegetables as most of them are grown by local growers who embrace organic and free range farming. There is no Chinese garbage meat on their shelves. By 2018 they will not have any GMO products on their shelves either.

There's a lot of truth in what you're saying as far as their controls on artificial ingredients go. But some of what you're saying isn't really right, although they've done a bang up job creating certain perceptions.

I'll leave it at that, because I still have financial interests in Whole Foods. It behooves me to let the marketing departments do their job.

 

[eduardo89]

Labels are already mandated, you fool. They already have labels that say: "Contains Soy" - "Contains Peanuts." That allows me to make an informed choice whether or not to buy the product.

Sad to see you support government mandates. I guess you trust the FDA and USDA more than the free market.

 

[Travlyr]

Sad to see you support government mandates. I guess you trust the FDA and USDA more than the free market.

Requiring labels on food is a proper role of government. Essentially, a proper role of government is to enforce contracts. Labeling food is really a contract. For example, I have a good friend who is deathly allergic to mushrooms. If she eats a mushroom, then she goes into anaphylactic shock. She has to read all the labels on the foods she buys. If a producer would put mushrooms in a product and mislabel the product, then she would have a legitimate legal remedy to sue the maker of the product for damages. Enforcing contracts is a proper role of government.

 

[eduardo89]

Requiring labels on food is a proper role of government.

No it isn't. Especially not on a federal level.

Essentially, a proper role of government is to enforce contracts.

I agree.

Labeling food is really a contract.

No, it isn't.

For example, I have a good friend who is deathly allergic to mushrooms. If she eats a mushroom, then she goes into anaphylactic shock. She has to read all the labels on the foods she buys. If a producer would put mushrooms in a product and mislabel the product, then she would have a legitimate legal remedy to sue the maker of the product for damages.

I'm sorry for your friend, having a mushroom allergy must suck. Mushrooms are delicious. If a company labels their product as mushroom-free and it has mushrooms, that is fraud and she would have a right to sue for damages.

Enforcing contracts is a proper role of government.

I agree, again, but labels are not a contract.

 

[angelatc]

Requiring labels on food is a proper role of government. Essentially, a proper role of government is to enforce contracts. Labeling food is really a contract. For example, I have a good friend who is deathly allergic to mushrooms. If she eats a mushroom, then she goes into anaphylactic shock. She has to read all the labels on the foods she buys. If a producer would put mushrooms in a product and mislabel the product, then she would have a legitimate legal remedy to sue the maker of the product for damages. Enforcing contracts is a proper role of government.

There's a big difference between a lifestyle choice and a life threatening choice.

 

[donnay]

We told you over and over that MSG occurs naturally. Yet you're still shocked to find out that there are natural levels in MSG in some foods. Absolutely priceless.

But when you get your dietary information from people who went to college to study computers, those things are bound to happen.

I guess if you repeat something over and over you believe it, eh? Again it doesn't make YOU correct. Remember they put it in flu vaccines and you told us it is there as a stabilizer not a meat tenderizer.

Oh yes, glutamate acid occurs naturally in mushrooms, tomatoes, seaweed, etc... and the funny thing is it has no effect on me. Now the MSG made in a lab most certainly does and that is what they use to enhance the flavor--basically fooling our taste buds into thinking, what we are eating is delicious. The problem is that it is in almost everything from fertilizers to OTC medicines to vaccines to processed foods--which could be considered causing overloading reactions. The body cannot handle all the poisons it is accumulating.

MSG – Flavor Enhancer or Deadly Killer
http://www.journal.au.edu/au_techno/2008/jul08/journal121_article06.pdf

Flavor Enhancers and Artificial Sweeteners
http://www.drrisley.com/html/excitotoxins.html

MSGFACTS.NET
http://www.endeavorfreedom.org/MSG.htm

 

[Travlyr]

Labels are a contract enforceable in a court of law.

No it isn't. Especially not on a federal level.



I agree.



No, it isn't.



I'm sorry for your friend, having a mushroom allergy must suck. Mushrooms are delicious. If a company labels their product as mushroom-free and it has mushrooms, that is fraud and she would have a right to sue for damages.



I agree, again, but labels are not a contract.

contract
noun |ˈkänˌtrakt|
a written or spoken agreement, esp. one concerning employment, sales, or tenancy, that is intended to be enforceable by law

I didn't say it should be a federal law. That is what the OP is all about. Some State governments are considering GMO labeling. Big business is lobbying to ban all GMO labeling on a federal level.

 

[eduardo89]

Labels are a contract enforceable in a court of law.

Labels are not a contract. A contract requires 4 essential elements, go look them up.

 

[donnay]

Sad to see you support government mandates. I guess you trust the FDA and USDA more than the free market.

Guess you don't comprehend well.

 

[Travlyr]

Labels are not a contract. A contract requires 4 essential elements, go look them up.

Labels meet all four elements of a contract.

• Offer
• Acceptance
• Intention of legal consequences
• Consideration

And it is enforceable in a court of law.

 

[Travlyr]

Guess you don't comprehend well.

That's what I was thinking when I read what he wrote. Poor comprehension.