Federal Ban On GMO Labeling?

[A. Havnes]

Ben Swann has a new video up about GMO labeling.



I know that this has been a hot topic before, with some people supporting GMOs and others hating them, but I think we can all agree that the federal government has no right to stop states from labeling foods with GMOs or to force states to declare GMO foods as natural and organic.

 

[eduardo89]

I know that this has been a hot topic before, with some people supporting GMOs and others hating them, but I think we can all agree that the federal government has no right to stop states from labeling foods with GMOs or to force states to declare GMO foods as natural and organic.

The federal government also has no right to force states to mandate GMO labelling.

 

[donnay]

The federal government also has no right to force states to mandate GMO labelling.

It's a catch-22. This just means they can do anything they damn well please. It's all about control...government plays the role of control very well and the Biotechs have done a good job in making people, like yourself, believe these frankenfoods are good for all of humanity.

When government steps in, people lose their rights all around. The Biotech companies know this and use them to their advantage and to our disadvantage.

 

[angelatc]

Ben Swann has a new video up about GMO labeling.

I know that this has been a hot topic before, with some people supporting GMOs and others hating them, but I think we can all agree that the federal government has no right to stop states from labeling foods with GMOs or to force states to declare GMO foods as natural and organic.

Certified organic farmers are already forbidden by federal regulations from using GMOs in products labeled organic, so that ship already sailed.


The best solution is always the free market, which means that the labeling should be voluntary.


This is biased and ugly reporting. What he isn't telling us is that the drive against GMOs and to mandatory labeling is being driven by the lobbyists for another multi-billion dollar industry, the organic farmers, and the compliance costs of the labeling mandate in Europe drove lots of small organic producers out of business.

 

[Travlyr]

Certified organic farmers are already forbidden by federal regulations from using GMOs in products labeled organic, so that ship already sailed.


The best solution is always the free market, which means that the labeling should be voluntary.


This is biased and ugly reporting. What he isn't telling us is that the drive against GMOs and to mandatory labeling is being driven by the lobbyists for another multi-billion dollar industry, the organic farmers, and the compliance costs of the labeling mandate in Europe drove lots of small organic producers out of business.

I don't see it as biased at all. They are trying to BAN GMO labeling. That is good information to know.

 

[angelatc]

I don't see it as biased at all. They are trying to BAN GMO labeling. That is good information to know.

Facts are important, and you just proved my point. They are not trying to ban GMO labeling. They are trying to ban mandatory GMO labeling.

A ban on labeling is closer to the free market approach than a mandate. Of course we would prefer no regulations, but a ban on mandatory labeling is the next best thing.

 

[Kelly.]

A ban on labeling is closer to the free market approach than a mandate.

a ban is a mandate. its a mandate to NOT do something.

 

[Natural Citizen]

It's a catch-22. This just means they can do anything they damn well please. It's all about control...government plays the role of control very well and the Biotechs have done a good job in making people, like yourself, believe these frankenfoods are good for all of humanity.

When government steps in, people lose their rights all around. The Biotech companies know this and use them to their advantage and to our disadvantage.

The problem here is that we have the biotech and other relevant industries occupying and flip flopping employment between the very government platforms that are meant to regulate and the companies themselves. Then you throw in the judges and politicians who have been representative of those same industries and it equates to nothing less than a merge of corporation and state.

So then "government" is rarely placed into context in it's true and current form but remains a term thrown around in a manner more aligned with fad or social perception to solicit more of the left-right political paradigm and that mind set all over the web. Cripes we have seen people who work for companies like monsanto write up the intricates and safety questions of their projects or products and then the same person who wrote that while working for monsanto ended up then going to work for the fda and then approving the very paper that they wrote. Of course, if that gets a monkey wrench thrown into it then we sometimes see judges who were once lawyers for these very companies sitting and ruling in favor of their former corporates associates and against the interests of the natural citizen. Clarence Thomas is a fine example here. This is corruption at the highest level. And it's not just the food industry.

 

[angelatc]

a ban is a mandate. its a mandate to NOT do something.

Yeah well, welcome to the real world.


The liberals are pushing for mandatory labeling of GMO labeling. The food producers do not want to be saddled with the compliance costs, so they are pushing back.

There is nobody pushing for a ban on voluntary labeling.

 

[Travlyr]

Yeah well, welcome to the real world.


The liberals are pushing for mandatory labeling of GMO labeling. The food producers do not want to be saddled with the compliance costs, so they are pushing back.

There is nobody pushing for a ban on voluntary labeling.

Did you watch the OP video? The report is that "Lobbyists want to ban GMO labeling." Do you think Ben Swann is lying to you?

 

[angelatc]

Did you watch the OP video? The report is that "Lobbyists want to ban GMO labeling." Do you think Ben Swann is lying to you?

No I hate video. But I'm not a Swann fan these days because he doesn't do the same quality reporting that he used to do.

What I said is true. What Swann said is half-true. They want to ban mandatory GMO labeling. Nobody is pushing to ban voluntary labeling.

If I'm wrong, prove it. But until then, I think this is just cheap sensationalism.

 

[Travlyr]

No I hate video. But I'm not a Swann fan these days because he doesn't do the same quality reporting that he used to do.

What I said is true. What Swann said is half-true. They want to ban mandatory GMO labeling. Nobody is pushing to ban voluntary labeling.

If I'm wrong, prove it. But until then, I think this is just cheap sensationalism.

Everybody that does not have a video phobia knows that you are wrong. Ben Swann is not lying. The lobbyists are lobbying to outlaw voluntary GMO labeling. You have your fingers in your ears and blindfolds on.

 

[Neil Desmond]

The federal government also has no right to force states to mandate GMO labelling.

In that case it's not states that they force mandates on, it's individuals & businesses.

 

[eduardo89]

In that case it's not states that they force mandates on, it's individuals & businesses.

The federal government has no right to either force or ban any states from mandating any type of labelling, nor force or ban any individual or business from labelling GMOs.

I have a feeling, though, that many on this forum would like to see laws forcing GMOs to be labelled.

 

[Travlyr]

The federal government has no right to either force or ban any states from mandating any type of labelling, nor force or ban any individual or business from labelling GMOs.

I have a feeling, though, that many on this forum would like to see laws forcing GMOs to be labelled.

I don't get that sense at all. Most people on this forum suggest that GMO labeling should be voluntary. GMO labeling should not be either mandatory or denied. That's the sense I read on this forum.

 

[Neil Desmond]

The best solution is always the free market, which means that the labeling should be voluntary.

That's fine with me, as long as voluntary labeling doesn't mean that people can get away with false advertising.

 

[Natural Citizen]

The federal government has no right to either force or ban any states from mandating any type of labelling, nor force or ban any individual or business from labelling GMOs.

Here's the thing. In purely political atmospheres we tend to use the labeling language as the premise for the actual issue. That's not the issue in scope.

Let me ask this, eduardo. Would you agree that the United States Government (elected to be representative of, by and for it's people) has a duty to protect the health and safety of it's natural citizens from attack to include that of their property?

 

[Zippyjuan]

The federal government has no right to either force or ban any states from mandating any type of labelling, nor force or ban any individual or business from labelling GMOs.

I have a feeling, though, that many on this forum would like to see laws forcing GMOs to be labelled.

It is a conflicting issue in a truely free market. In a free market, a business does not have to share any sort of information on their product if they don't want to. But for a truely free market to actually work, the consumer needs complete information to be able to make an informed decision on their choice. Without complete information, a decision can be forced in one direction or another.

If I am buying food and GMO is the most important thing to me and I want to base my decision on what to buy and what to avoid on that, I cannot make a decision based on GMO if I don't know what is and isn't GMO. Or organic or imported or treated with pesticides or locally grown or anything.

Taking away information (or not requiring it to be shared) removes the ability of a consumer to make a true free choice of what to buy.

 

[Neil Desmond]

The federal government has no right to either force or ban any states from mandating any type of labelling, nor force or ban any individual or business from labelling GMOs.

That's not quite or necessarily true. Article 1 Section 8: http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec8.html

The Congress shall have Power...
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes.

It also states that it has the power to fix the Standard of Weights and Measures. If that is construed as "labeling" then they do.

 

[Travlyr]

It is a conflicting issue in a truely free market. In a free market, a business does not have to share any sort of information on their product if they don't want to. But for a truely free market to actually work, the consumer needs complete information to be able to make an informed decision on their choice. Without complete information, a decision can be forced in one direction or another.

If I am buying food and GMO is the most important thing to me and I want to base my decision on what to buy and what to avoid on that, I cannot make a decision based on GMO if I don't know what is and isn't GMO. Or organic or imported or treated with pesticides or locally grown or anything.

Almost all corn and soybean products are GMO modified unless they are designated as Organic. What is important to understand that all seeds are GMO. The difference is that most seeds are GMO naturally. Monsanto's GMO is unnatural and virtually untested on long term effects on living beings including honey bees.