[#FakeHate] 'Vote Trump' vandalism, fire at Mississippi church

[Superfluous Man]

C'mon man. Go back and look at the original post. Zippy was NOT posting that to show that both sides have idiotic supporters. He posted that to make Trump supporters look bad. That what he does. It was only after I called him out that he claimed his point was that "both sides have idiotic supporters".

Why would you "call him out on it"?

Making Trump supporters look bad is a perfectly valid way of fulfilling the mission of this site.

 

[Danke]

Zippy always posts different POVs to show both sides.

Anyone who is really looking for truth should appreciate this- saves a lot of time and both sides are essential to figuring out what's really going on.

 

[Ender]

So original- how impressive.

 

[Ender]

That's why he does it?

Yep.

 

[UWDude]

Yep.

what was the other point of view he was trying to show by starting this thread?

 

[misterx]

Why would a Trump supporter burn down a black church to encourage people to vote Trump? It doesn't make sense. You would only do that if you're trying to frame someone. The brick thing is totally different, that's intimidating GOP staffers to make them scared and stop working to get out the vote.

 

[misterx]

Zippy always posts different POVs to show both sides.

Anyone who is really looking for truth should appreciate this- saves a lot of time and both sides are essential to figuring out what's really going on.

I'll give him credit for being more bipartisan than CPUd, but he certainly leans heavily toward defending Clinton.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

'V*te *****'

Way to exploit RPF to pump up those search results, Juan. "Just carry out the plan! Cialdini knows what he's doing!" Doesn't it bother you to be supported by and employed by the same people who are firebombing churches?

Just a little, even?

 

[Ender]

I'll give him credit for being more bipartisan than CPUd, but he certainly leans heavily toward defending Clinton.

Zip doesn't defend Trump or Clinton- he just posts opposing POVs to show what else might be going on. As I have said, it is important for us all to look at all sides to begin to get a glimmer of what's really going on. Zippy saves me a lot of time & effort when he does this.

JMHPOV

 

[Ender]

what was the other point of view he was trying to show by starting this thread?

a) That violence is possibly on both sides.
b) That both sides maybe perpetuating "false flags".
c) That both sides have crazies.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Let's hope whoever did is brought to justice promptly.

But in case SWC Hillary tweets about it or disgraced DGP gives a stirring speech, then investigation should be more thorough than usual.

Hillary Clinton Verified account ‏@HillaryClinton
There's no excuse for racism and violence on a college campus.
http://hrc.io/1SurlaQ

The University at Albany (SUNY-Albany) has expelled two black students and suspended a third after they were hit with charges related to a fake hate crime they reported earlier this year.
Ariel Agudio, Asha Burwell and Alexis Briggs grabbed national headlines in January after they claimed they were assaulted by a mob of white students while riding on a public bus.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/06/hate-crime-victims-who-fooled-hillary-get-expelled/
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[UWDude]

a) That violence is possibly on both sides.
b) That both sides maybe perpetuating "false flags".
c) That both sides have crazies.

Do you think eating bullspit is better with a spoon or fork?

 

[Ender]

Do you think eating bullspit is better with a spoon or fork?

You tell me.

 

[JohnM]

I've got an open mind. But I am genuinely puzzled.

So here is my question for Zippy. Could you explain exactly why you started this thread?

 

[Jesse James]

I've got an open mind. But I am genuinely puzzled.

So here is my question for Zippy. Could you explain exactly why you started this thread?

$$

 

[Ender]

I've got an open mind. But I am genuinely puzzled.

So here is my question for Zippy. Could you explain exactly why you started this thread?

I'll answer that-

To counter balance this one and show both sides:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...rump-Violence-Sweeps-the-Nation-Media-Ignores

 

[juleswin]

Trump violence- done by Clinton supporters.
Clinton violence- done by Clinton supporters.

I think the fire bombing of the trump campaign office was likely done by Trump supporters
And this fire to the building was likely done by Hillary supporters.

I do not see any way Trump benefits from this fire. If anything, this would turn people off from voting for him. False flag attacks is real

 

[JohnM]

I'll answer that-

To counter balance this one and show both sides:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...rump-Violence-Sweeps-the-Nation-Media-Ignores

That answer assumes that the church fire was not a false flag attack.

I don't know whether it was a false flag attack or not. Nor does anyone else here. We probably all have guesses - some may be certain that it was a Trump supporter who did it, some may be certain that it was a false flag attack, but most of us are probably somewhere in between. To me (and what do I know?), it's probably about 50/50.

You would appear to be assuming (sorry if I am wrong) that Zippy thinks it was not false flag. But I don't know that, which is why I am asking Zippy.

You raise the bigger question of "counter balancing" and "showing both sides".

In order to know what the real picture is, I think there are at least four questions that need to be answered - and which I have no answers to:

1) Are attacks by Clinton supporters much more common than attacks by Trump supporters, or is it the other way around, or are they both about equally frequent?

2) Are attacks by Clinton supporters generally different in character to attacks by Trump supporters?

3) Are false flag attacks more common by anti-Trump people or anti-Clinton people - or is there little difference?

4) Does media reporting accurately represent what is happening with regard to these attacks - or does the media give a misleading impression that favors one side?

 

[Superfluous Man]

Why would a Trump supporter burn down a black church to encourage people to vote Trump?

Such a person would have to be an absolute idiot.

Sounds like a lot of Trump supporters.

 

[Jesse James]

Such a person would have to be an absolute idiot.

Sounds like a lot of Trump supporters.

there's
something fishy about ya.