Eugenicist Takes Hostage at Discovery Channel, Issues Anti-human Manifesto

[forsmant]

Oh I was praising the crazy dude.

 

[TC95]

Anyone who is complaining about overpopulation and want to restrict breeding, sterilize people, or otherwise kill or maim human beings please take the first step towards a solution and off yourself thanks that is all.

Ditto.

 

[NewFederalist]

I guess he won't do any more selective breeding. Selective bleeding, either!

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

He's dead now. This was a justfied killing since he entered a building with explosives and endangered other people's lives.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_disco...lYwN5bl90b3Bfc3RvcnkEc2xrA3BvbGljZWtpbGxndQ--

This +1

The gene pool is better for it.

-t

 

[Vessol]

Then it turned out that Joe Stack was a socialist..

 

[WaltM]

Since when is eugenics about exterminating the human race? I undestood it to be about selective breeding. Big difference between selective breeding and NO breeding!

you are right, as a eugenicist, I resent being thought of as Malthusian, anti-human.

It's socialists, multiculturalists, pro-lifers and "live and let live" libertines that are anti-human, and pro-extermination (and pro-extinction).

But of course, I can't expect creationists like FrankRep & Alex Jones to get their ad hominems correct. Whenever a murder occurs, you count on these guys to make sure the criminal wasn't a Christian, he was either psycho or atheist, or racist.

 

[WaltM]

You make a good point. The Venn Diagram overlap between eugenicists and Malthusian death cultists is pretty large, but they're still not the same exact circle.

How can eugenicis be pro-death?

What's the point of breeding good genes, and planning for the future, if death were the goal?

Eugenicists want the SURVIVAL, ADVANCEMENT AND EXPANSION of humans, with quality, not just numbers.

There's a big difference between being SELECTIVE of who lives/who dies, and being of the belief all humans are bad and should die.

There's a big difference between QUALITY of human life, and QUANTITY (but I suspect you know that).

I don't believe all humans are equal by any stretch (only communists do), thus I don't believe all humans are equally good or equally bad.

Pro-lifers believe all humans are equally good and worthy of life.
Maltusians believe (as far as I know) most humans are bad and unworthy of life.
Eugenicists choose, while varying in criteria, which humans are good and bad.
It's call judging, which we all do (some are just more honest about it).

 

[FrankRep]

But of course, I can't expect creationists like FrankRep & Alex Jones to get their ad hominems correct. Whenever a murder occurs, you count on these guys to make sure the criminal wasn't a Christian, he was either psycho or atheist, or racist.

In this case, James Lee, is an Atheist.

SOURCE

On his My Space page, Lee described himself as an atheist​

 

[WaltM]

Can we somehow link this guy with all the eugenics fans in Washington and in the UN? I mean they link us with every "right-wing" nut that goes crazy. Fight dirt with dirt.

I'm sure there's a clever way to do that, but it's a shame anybody has to.

As if murder and hostaging is more tolerable depending on a person's beliefs and associations.

It's DISGUSTING that people feel the need to associate eugenicists with environmentalists, and ultimately Malthusians, to a standard they'd never hold to themselves. The only way to say "you're a bad guy" is to say "because your belief is shared by those guys, which are shared with those other guys, which are shared with Hitler, NWO, UN" (otherwise, it seems fine).

 

[WaltM]

In this case, James Lee, is an Atheist.

SOURCE

On his My Space page, Lee described himself as an atheist​

Yep. Christians NEVER commit crimes, if one ever did you're bend over backwards to "prove" he's not a "real Christian" or "just not my kind, so he's really an atheist".

You wouldn't accept the same if I said "Lee isn't a good representation of atheists" in return (or else you'd NEVER bring it up).

 

[FrankRep]

Can we somehow link this guy with all the eugenics fans in Washington and in the UN? I mean they link us with every "right-wing" nut that goes crazy. Fight dirt with dirt.

We can do this:

Al Gore's Environmental Militant Terrorist Problem.


Environmental Militant Killed by Police at Discovery Channel Hdqtrs...
http://abcnews.go.com/US/gunman-ent...uarters-employees-evacuated/story?id=11535128

'Awakened' by Al Gore's 'An Inconvenient Truth'...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38957020/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

Demanded halt to birth of 'parasitic human infants'...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/01/AR2010090103911.html?hpid=topnews

 

[WaltM]

Anyone who is complaining about overpopulation and want to restrict breeding, sterilize people, or otherwise kill or maim human beings please take the first step towards a solution and off yourself thanks that is all.

so just because I believe all rapists are men, and rapists are all worthy of being killed, I should castrate myself?

What happened to "all people are bad except me and my kind"?

Don't confuse eugenicists with Malthusians.

We eugenicists don't believe all people are equally good or equally bad, so offing ourselves would be neither sufficient nor necessary. I have however, in case you cared, chosen not to breed.

 

[WaltM]

We can do this:
Al Gore's Environmental Militant Terrorist Problem.

I need to start making cash bets on your predictability.

 

[QueenB4Liberty]

I'm sure there's a clever way to do that, but it's a shame anybody has to.

As if murder and hostaging is more tolerable depending on a person's beliefs and associations.

It's DISGUSTING that people feel the need to associate eugenicists with environmentalists, and ultimately Malthusians, to a standard they'd never hold to themselves. The only way to say "you're a bad guy" is to say "because your belief is shared by those guys, which are shared with those other guys, which are shared with Hitler, NWO, UN" (otherwise, it seems fine).

Eugenics is much worse than environmentalism.

 

[Icymudpuppy]

Pro-lifers believe all humans are equally good and worthy of life.
Maltusians believe (as far as I know) most humans are bad and unworthy of life.
Eugenicists choose, while varying in criteria, which humans are good and bad.
It's call judging, which we all do (some are just more honest about it).

Change...

Prolifers believe all humans should have a chance to be good and worthy of life.
Anti-capital punishment and welfare advocates believe all humans are equally good and worthy of life.
Pro capital punishment believe if you've proven yourself to be bad and unworthy, then it's high time we eliminate you.
You got Malthusians and Eugenicist's right, but left out....
Darwinists believe nature and god will sort out the good from the bad through selective pressure and we shouldn't interfere artificially and we should let people die when they do stupid, antisocial, or lazy activities which will reduce their reproduction.

I am a pro-life Darwinist. Let every embryo have a chance, but take away all the artificial supports. Live or Die on individual merits. Just like the free market. Don't squash a business with regulations before it even has a chance to try for success, but don't give it any subsidies either.

 

[oyarde]

I need to start making cash bets on your predictability.

Yes , but you have to admit the Al Gore headline is funny .

 

[WaltM]

Wasn't talking about defending the guy. I was talking about the hypocrisy of going apeshit and pointing the finger at liberals, and saying "SEE! YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF EXTREMIST SYMPATHIZERS!"

Remember how some tried to pin the FBI building kamikaze anti-tax pilot on us?

AMy, VERY GOOD POINT!

When Hutaree broke out, there were 3 obvious brands of denialist defenses.

a) they weren't real Christians
b) they weren't real bad guys, it's federal tyranny & ambush
c) they weren't real militia, they're actually criminals


Nobody was willing to say
Yes, they were Christian, yes, they were a militia, yes, they were patriots too, just like us, and regardless of whether they were actually criminal, they do not represent us, and we do not advocate any criminal behavior.

Denial is not a defense, it's a form of lying and eventually will expose yourself as a person or group who can't be trusted.

 

[WaltM]

Change...

Prolifers believe all humans should have a chance to be good and worthy of life.
Anti-capital punishment and welfare advocates believe all humans are equally good and worthy of life.

I honestly don't know the difference.

Pro capital punishment believe if you've proven yourself to be bad and unworthy, then it's high time we eliminate you.

Fair enough.

You got Malthusians and Eugenicist's right, but left out....
Darwinists believe nature and god will sort out the good from the bad through selective pressure and we shouldn't interfere artificially and we should let people die when they do stupid, antisocial, or lazy activities which will reduce their reproduction.

Only creationists are non-Darwinists, Darwinian evolution is a proven fact.

However, I differentiate between taking DESCRIPTION of nature as PRESCRIPTION of actions.

Also, our society which refuses allow "nature take its course" by prolifers advocating socialism, is ANTI-NATURE AND ANTI-DARWINISM (for better or worse, can one disagree?)

I am a pro-life Darwinist. Let every embryo have a chance, but take away all the artificial supports.

So if a mother is on welfare and can't on her own make ends meet to feed her child, is assisting her "artificial support"?

Live or Die on individual merits. Just like the free market.

I'm all for that, which is why I advocate abortion most of the time.

What's more responsible than a person who knows he/she can't afford to take care of their child and ends the deal ASAP?

Don't squash a business with regulations before it even has a chance to try for success, but don't give it any subsidies either.

I'd happily substitute the word "business" with "fetuses" & families.

 

[WaltM]

Eugenics is much worse than environmentalism.

I respect your opinion, and that's still making my point.

Why should environmentalists whom don't have an interest in human genetics be associated with people who do?

 

[amy31416]

AMy, VERY GOOD POINT!

When Hutaree broke out, there were 3 obvious brands of denialist defenses.

a) they weren't real Christians
b) they weren't real bad guys, it's federal tyranny & ambush
c) they weren't real militia, they're actually criminals


Nobody was willing to say
Yes, they were Christian, yes, they were a militia, yes, they were patriots too, just like us, and regardless of whether they were actually criminal, they do not represent us, and we do not advocate any criminal behavior.

Denial is not a defense, it's a form of lying and eventually will expose yourself as a person or group who can't be trusted.

Best post you've made in a while...

Although, I think there's some debate to be had as to whether it was federal tyranny/ambush. It does look like they were set up.

But, if they were dumb enough to be set up.....

(And yeah, I know you were trying to set me up....)