Email Database and The Grassroots HQ: Tick,Tock,Tick,Tock......

In New Jersey, some other people and I are working on the following site:

http://ronpaulnewjersey.com/

It's far from done, but just wanted to share. Basically, we want to provide a place for centralized meet up communication and calendars, while letting the groups be able to do what they want on their own. Kind of like our own media, just reporting and not deciding what's going to happen. Good ideas won't die, they'll get picked up by people.
 
p.s., i think constituent has valid concerns

the problem that this thread started off with was simply communication but now there's all these other organizational and command things being tacked on
 
actually, i'd be more comfortable if it was broken up state by state (don't appoint people... too dictatorial and the infighting will kill us... let each state's emerge and organize themselves
 
Whew!! I finally get through all nine pages and held off many a rant.

My take..

This is an organic endeavor to restore The Organic Constitution. It is akin to an ecosystem in many respects as far as the overall grassroots thing is concerned. If there is a "hole" in the ecosystem, or a vaccuum to be filled it seems to get filled at an accellerating pace, or something grows into the hole to keep the ecosystem confluent. Then along come the "gardeners" who want the petunias over there, the lilacs over there..and prune back the morning glories and kill the hemp plants and pull up the weeds (actually herbs, medicines and foods) Plant some hemlock over there and put a big boulder for show right there so the path is all twisty winding. Organize, categorize, separate, form hierarchies and pecking orders, de-individuate, remove personal responsibility, do this, don't do that, can't ya wave the sign. Remember..wear a suit and a tie to the repug meetings and be good little boys and girls..

I for one wouldn't deal with it. My son would be quite reluctant. he and his friends are involved precisely because they can do their thing wth myspace and music forums and spread the word at Georgia Tech etc..

Furthermore..there are already coordinating sites for these efforts from links in this thread. Is it that these people who host these sites do not provide enough command and control for those seeking to control others efforts?

I can see the need for a database. But frankly our Atlanta area meetup groups are doing fine and each county is talking with the adjacent ones..just like an ecosystems birds. There are a few on the board here like BeerMotor and HoratioNegersky but the word for events gets out and donations for signs and all kinds of stuff went on in the background..unposted on this forum.

We are not a flock of sheep but a flock of birds.. there will be no leaders except Ron and we will move with the organic torsion fields to navigate. We will be awake when the other campaigns sleep. We will be creating art and websites and videos while the think tanks close up from 5PM to 9AM and all weekend. We will be hitting local traffic junctures making noise and creating buzz. I don't need any help navigating. I am doing this on my own time, with my own money and my own intelligence and talents in my own unique way and joining with others in my area when I have time to wave signs at traffic.

I also think calling it an HQ is bunk. I saw DJloti uncharacteristically drool over making his outstanding radio station a part of HQ.. Take care my friend.. You are doing a great job with the radio station and are a valuable resource and liked by all. It will factionalise almost immediately.. It will be the wild fields and fenced off will be the garden with the blocks of this and paths for that and don't step on the flowers PLEASE!! Wave that sign..Wave that sign..This HQ will herald the first major demarcation in the ranks IMHO. How the hell they gonna tell a bozo the clown like me what to do?? I ONLY volunteer..I do not take orders. I cooperate well and take up slack without bitching. I like work..Been that way for 3 decades now and am quite comfortable in it.. Like the old Texas cowboy told the Englishman when he came upon the cowboy and asked where his master was. The old cowboy looked left, the right, then over both shoulders and then said to the Englishman "Oh.. Yer talkin' to me.. That's funny you'lda thunk that. I ain't met the sonofabitch yet I was born downhill from".

Best Regards
Randy
 
Update No.2

roxic27
"Here’s the gist of it. The FEC (Federal Election Commission) has a code of rules and regulations that apparently makes the IRS codebook look like nursery rhymes. And, because other groups are not, shall we say, encouraging our campaign it is especially important that we follow the code to perfection. The code mostly deals with money - how it is received by the campaign, how it is used, etc. The tricky part for grassroots campaigns is that our activities must clearly be separate (in general) from the National campaign or someone is gonna end up in a little prison cell with a roommate named Bubba.

What they explained to us is this: They hate it, but they have to live by it. They want, they need for us to do what we’re doing and do more of it.

Do you see what this means? It means we don’t have to wait on the national organization to make decisions. We don’t have to feel stymied because we don’t know what they want. The truth is this: they can’t tell us! It’s not that they don’t want to, it’s just that they aren’t allowed to. So, you and I can promote Dr. Paul with our best efforts. We can coordinate with each other and help each other as we have been doing. And we can do more of it.

That’s the only direction we really need. In the end, there are two campaigns - national and grassroots."​

cujothekitten Moderator
"This should probably be done. One massive mailing list would make communication a lot easier."​



tmg19103
"I for one would be happy ot be part of a communications team to help get ideas out to all the MeetUps and any other grassroots."

"I think where we need a "command and control" is for sharing ideas. We have some great ideas on this board, but how to easily get them to 30,000 plus MeetUp groups?"

"THEN let the MeetUp groups (and their 30,000 members) decide how to use the info/ideas they are sent. "

"what we need is better communication and ways to share info with 30,000 (and growing daily) people FAST."

"let ALL the MeetUp groups know at the same time and let it happen spontaneously. That is the key to grassroots - it has to be a groundswell of people WANTING to do something as opposed to being told to do something."​

ghemminger
"HQ set me an email list of 400+RP leaders I have available"
​

pwnsey
"I'm willing to get some money together to run a sever capable of handling this if someone gets the database and scripts together."​

DjLoTi
"I think this is a good idea. If I could, I'd like to make my radio station a part of such effort."

"The 'Grassroots' HQ has much more freedom and flexibility. This will require a team."​

Andrew76
"I'd only suggest that a major next step up would be a link between all the various forums and meetup groups. One giant email list that people could be a part of, in which, in it's ideal form, would contact everyone. There doesn't need to be any forced organization, but at the same time, there are many people in my meetup group, (at least half, I'd bet) who don't know about this forum, even after I mention it in various emails. This is mostly about communication."​

isufferfromronpaulfever
"Perhaps a formal network that provides an easier means of communication (dedicated IRC server, etc) would be a great start"​

Jennifer Reynolds
"I haven't read this board, but someone asked me what it took to email 676 Meetup members. I was on this board for 11 hours asking for help due to the 25 email max at Meetup. I finally gave up and opened up 11 accounts of my own at Meetup, along with 11 new email addresses so I could do most of the work myself. I ended up with 12 volunteers in 11 hours."​

LibertyEagle
And some of you don't think we have a problem COMMUNICATING with others if we have a need? Geesh.

"how about when Jennifer was trying to do the same with her University idea? I couldn't even assist her, because I was maxed out. I think she finally found the people, but it was an ALL DAY EFFORT to do so and I mean, ALL DAY." [*trying to just EMAIL out to multiple Meet-up groups with a single message].
see Jennifer thread: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=10998&page=6

"All we need is a way to send a simple email out to all the Meetup Organizers. That would be enough. "

"What about a repository for high resolution video? How many times have we heard people on here griping that the only video they could get was from YouTube and the quality was horrible?"

I think one of the guys in the Austin Meetup is working on it. [harvesting meet-up emails] I'll check with them when I get a chance and see how its progressing.
​

Lord Xar
"this is NOT a HQ or a LEADERSHIP or CONTROL type thing.... this would be a bustop for information and ideas and dissemination of the grassroots level..."

"You divide the united states into regions."
"I can set up the site and get the hosting, that is not a big deal, what we need is representatives. Also, lets talk about how to divide the regions."

"let me set this up tonight.. I will set up the site to maintain this.. "​


DIGG TYPE CONCEPT​

Man from La Mancha
"Could an auto program like digg it, send a message out to all meetup groups when the digg hits a certain number of interested individuals of various topics and projects listed? It could be sub grouped for states and counties. Then they would get hold of the people suggested in the article."​

robatsu
"Ultimately, there may have to be some sort of gatekeeper, a digg mechanism, etc, to keep such a network from becoming overloaded with random half baked ideas."

"You see this in, for example, in Apache, where certain ideas have to get enough traction before they become official projects."

"develop enough support for their idea to prove that it was worthy. Without this impedance, filtering, a nationwide network with unlimited access would just become spam, and with it, you get things that you know have some traction already."

"The way to get most meetups informed: First, publicize it on this forum, probably most meetups have at least one member who reads this, publicize that we're setting up a grass roots comm network and looking for points of contact in local meetups that would be relay points for info."

"There are two pieces to this......The first is just some giant mail list, or distribution mechanism, the second is a piece that moderates what would get distributed."
​

Wyurm
"A website with links to various ongoing projects so we can donate to them and so we can participate ----- that would be a very GOOD thing."​

austin356
"Its not necessarily that we need central authority, but rather communication and organization. Central authority is only one way to achieve such."​

Horatio Negersky
"I think that if the main point is communication that we shouldn't add extra levels of administration to this process by creating shell heirarchy after shell heirarchy which takes a group of individuals and makes a group of groups of individuals instead. It's like purposefully installing middlemen."​

DeadheadForPaul
"Contact Frazee. He has asked a number of college students (including one of my friends) to head up efforts on campuses across the country. He has contact info for hundreds of colleges"​

Revolution9
"I can see the need for an indexing of events and requests specific to those events. I can see a need for an email broadcast system for getting the word on important issues out."​

Will
Dabase architect/administrator
"I'm a database guy."​

mdh
I have unmetered 100mbps bandwidth and can throw about 50 gigs of space to start with at this. With about a week's notice (ie - if it grows quickly) I can pull down another ~100mbps of bandwidth and a couple of terabytes of disk space. Just say the word, and we'll roll.

How do you propose harvesting all of those emails without bringing them on board? I don't believe meetup.com makes all email addresses public by default.
​
thomj76
Quote:
Originally Posted by Suzu View Post
That's precisely what's been set up at http://ronpaulnetwork.info/forum
There are areas for regional posting etc...
The only thing stopping this from being a tool to help in the endeavors is people using the site.​
 
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goldenequity said:
roxic27
"Here’s the gist of it. The FEC (Federal Election Commission) has a code of rules and regulations that apparently makes the IRS codebook look like nursery rhymes. And, because other groups are not, shall we say, encouraging our campaign it is especially important that we follow the code to perfection. The code mostly deals with money - how it is received by the campaign, how it is used, etc. The tricky part for grassroots campaigns is that our activities must clearly be separate (in general) from the National campaign or someone is gonna end up in a little prison cell with a roommate named Bubba.

What they explained to us is this: They hate it, but they have to live by it. They want, they need for us to do what we’re doing and do more of it.

Do you see what this means? It means we don’t have to wait on the national organization to make decisions. We don’t have to feel stymied because we don’t know what they want. The truth is this: they can’t tell us! It’s not that they don’t want to, it’s just that they aren’t allowed to. So, you and I can promote Dr. Paul with our best efforts. We can coordinate with each other and help each other as we have been doing. And we can do more of it.

That’s the only direction we really need. In the end, there are two campaigns - national and grassroots."​

cujothekitten Moderator
"This should probably be done. One massive mailing list would make communication a lot easier."​

robatsu
"Ultimately, there may have to be some sort of gatekeeper, or digg mechanism, etc, to keep such a network from becoming overloaded with random half baked ideas."

"You see this in, for example, in Apache, where certain ideas have to get enough traction before they become official projects."

"develop enough support for their idea to prove that it was worthy. Without this impedance, filtering, a nationwide network with unlimited access would just become spam, and with it, you get things that you know have some traction already."

"The way to get most meetups informed: First, publicize it on this forum, probably most meetups have at least one member who reads this, publicize that we're setting up a grass roots comm network and looking for points of contact in local meetups that would be relay points for info."

"There are two pieces to this......The first is just some giant mail list, or distribution mechanism, the second is a piece that moderates what would get distributed."
​

tmg19103
"I for one would be happy ot be part of a communications team to help get ideas out to all the MeetUps and any other grassroots."

"I think where we need a "command and control" is for sharing ideas. We have some great ideas on this board, but how to easily get them to 30,000 plus MeetUp groups?"

"THEN let the MeetUp groups (and their 30,000 members) decide how to use the info/ideas they are sent. "

"what we need is better communication and ways to share info with 30,000 (and growing daily) people FAST."

"let ALL the MeetUp groups know at the same time and let it happen spontaneously. That is the key to grassroots - it has to be a groundswell of people WANTING to do something as opposed to being told to do something."​

ghemminger
"HQ set me an email list of 400+RP leaders I have available"
​

pwnsey
"I'm willing to get some money together to run a sever capable of handling this if someone gets the database and scripts together."​

DjLoTi
"I think this is a good idea. If I could, I'd like to make my radio station a part of such effort."

"The 'Grassroots' HQ has much more freedom and flexibility. This will require a team."​

Andrew76
"I'd only suggest that a major next step up would be a link between all the various forums and meetup groups. One giant email list that people could be a part of, in which, in it's ideal form, would contact everyone. There doesn't need to be any forced organization, but at the same time, there are many people in my meetup group, (at least half, I'd bet) who don't know about this forum, even after I mention it in various emails. This is mostly about communication."​

isufferfromronpaulfever
"Perhaps a formal network that provides an easier means of communication (dedicated IRC server, etc) would be a great start"​

LibertyEagle
"how about when Jennifer was trying to do the same with her University idea? I couldn't even assist her, because I was maxed out. I think she finally found the people, but it was an ALL DAY EFFORT to do so and I mean, ALL DAY."

"What about a repository for high resolution video? How many times have we heard people on here griping that the only video they could get was from YouTube and the quality was horrible?"​

Lord Xar
"You divide the united states into regions."
"I can set up the site and get the hosting, that is not a big deal, what we need is representatives. Also, lets talk about how to divide the regions."

"let me set this up tonight.. I will set up the site to maintain this.. "​

DeadheadForPaul
"Contact Frazee. He has asked a number of college students (including one of my friends) to head up efforts on campuses across the country. He has contact info for hundreds of colleges"​
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Well..It certainly looks like you have just stuck a faction in my face as rebuttal yet it proves myself and a few others have said on this thread. I ain't bookmarking the site nir taking orders from anybody. Simple as that. Factionalise till the cows come home.

Best
Randy
 
goldenequity said:
roxic27
"Here’s the gist of it. The FEC (Federal Election Commission) has a code of rules and regulations that apparently makes the IRS codebook look like nursery rhymes. And, because other groups are not, shall we say, encouraging our campaign it is especially important that we follow the code to perfection. The code mostly deals with money - how it is received by the campaign, how it is used, etc. The tricky part for grassroots campaigns is that our activities must clearly be separate (in general) from the National campaign or someone is gonna end up in a little prison cell with a roommate named Bubba.

What they explained to us is this: They hate it, but they have to live by it. They want, they need for us to do what we’re doing and do more of it.

Do you see what this means? It means we don’t have to wait on the national organization to make decisions. We don’t have to feel stymied because we don’t know what they want. The truth is this: they can’t tell us! It’s not that they don’t want to, it’s just that they aren’t allowed to. So, you and I can promote Dr. Paul with our best efforts. We can coordinate with each other and help each other as we have been doing. And we can do more of it.

That’s the only direction we really need. In the end, there are two campaigns - national and grassroots."​

cujothekitten Moderator
"This should probably be done. One massive mailing list would make communication a lot easier."​

robatsu
"Ultimately, there may have to be some sort of gatekeeper, or digg mechanism, etc, to keep such a network from becoming overloaded with random half baked ideas."

"You see this in, for example, in Apache, where certain ideas have to get enough traction before they become official projects."

"develop enough support for their idea to prove that it was worthy. Without this impedance, filtering, a nationwide network with unlimited access would just become spam, and with it, you get things that you know have some traction already."

"The way to get most meetups informed: First, publicize it on this forum, probably most meetups have at least one member who reads this, publicize that we're setting up a grass roots comm network and looking for points of contact in local meetups that would be relay points for info."

"There are two pieces to this......The first is just some giant mail list, or distribution mechanism, the second is a piece that moderates what would get distributed."
​

tmg19103
"I for one would be happy ot be part of a communications team to help get ideas out to all the MeetUps and any other grassroots."

"I think where we need a "command and control" is for sharing ideas. We have some great ideas on this board, but how to easily get them to 30,000 plus MeetUp groups?"

"THEN let the MeetUp groups (and their 30,000 members) decide how to use the info/ideas they are sent. "

"what we need is better communication and ways to share info with 30,000 (and growing daily) people FAST."

"let ALL the MeetUp groups know at the same time and let it happen spontaneously. That is the key to grassroots - it has to be a groundswell of people WANTING to do something as opposed to being told to do something."​

ghemminger
"HQ set me an email list of 400+RP leaders I have available"
​

pwnsey
"I'm willing to get some money together to run a sever capable of handling this if someone gets the database and scripts together."​

DjLoTi
"I think this is a good idea. If I could, I'd like to make my radio station a part of such effort."

"The 'Grassroots' HQ has much more freedom and flexibility. This will require a team."​

Andrew76
"I'd only suggest that a major next step up would be a link between all the various forums and meetup groups. One giant email list that people could be a part of, in which, in it's ideal form, would contact everyone. There doesn't need to be any forced organization, but at the same time, there are many people in my meetup group, (at least half, I'd bet) who don't know about this forum, even after I mention it in various emails. This is mostly about communication."​

isufferfromronpaulfever
"Perhaps a formal network that provides an easier means of communication (dedicated IRC server, etc) would be a great start"​

LibertyEagle
"how about when Jennifer was trying to do the same with her University idea? I couldn't even assist her, because I was maxed out. I think she finally found the people, but it was an ALL DAY EFFORT to do so and I mean, ALL DAY." [*trying to just EMAIL out to multiple Meet-up groups with a single message].

"What about a repository for high resolution video? How many times have we heard people on here griping that the only video they could get was from YouTube and the quality was horrible?"​

Lord Xar
"You divide the united states into regions."
"I can set up the site and get the hosting, that is not a big deal, what we need is representatives. Also, lets talk about how to divide the regions."

"let me set this up tonight.. I will set up the site to maintain this.. "​

DeadheadForPaul
"Contact Frazee. He has asked a number of college students (including one of my friends) to head up efforts on campuses across the country. He has contact info for hundreds of colleges"​
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I agree with the need to centralize the campaign better so goals and objectives are better known and planned for. But I think the official campaign needs to step up more and get more political veterans and strategists in all 50 states like the other campaigns.

We have a lot more grassroots support than any of the other campaigns, maybe even more than obama.

But that doesn't really mean much if it is setup in a nuanced, go-it-alone type of operation. We need to be a cohesive group that can respect the wishes and work towards the goals of the main campaign while at the sametime remaining independent.

Sometimes this leads to wierd little rifts, (911 truth, voter fraud advocates, etc) But we have to remember that this is the big-times. And the internet isn't big enough to get a man elected (yet).
 
Wrong

Wrong Rev 9...
There were many positive posts on this thread. Glad you took the time to read all of them. You are certainly entitled to voice your opinion.
Good hearts and minds of those in this forum have expressed theirs as well.:)
 
Hey guys. No one is talking about any kind of pecking order here. Nor, is there any need for anyone to participate in this whole thing at all. But, are there a few things that might be more efficiently setup from a national level, rather than require everyone to go out and reinvent the wheel, or to have the manpower within their Meetup groups to do so? We're not talking everything here. Just maybe a few strategic things.
 
I think that if the main point is communication that we shouldn't add extra levels of administration to this process by creating shell heirarchy after shell heirarchy which takes a group of individuals and makes a group of groups of individuals instead. It's like purposefully installing middlemen.

All you really need to do is create a meetup.com list of numbered RP Groups with their email addresses i.e. [email protected], update it weekly and provide a link to the full list in outlook address book format or comma delimited text for your e-mail client to pull up and use as a direct email list to simultaneously broadcast a message to all groups or a selection of the groups. Then you don't need a site, or a leader, or a group of leaders, or a leader of groups of leaders of the groups of individuals, you need the willing and you need one extra file to be uploaded HERE at the forums and wherever else necessary with links provided in a conspicuous location. Anyone can do it _at_their_liberty_ in a matter of moments then.
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Negersky
 
So are we doing this or what? I think the first thing that must be done is having a website with a forum where we ALL can migrate to and use(from all RP forums) and a list of activities.
 
Revolution9 said:
Well..It certainly looks like you have just stuck a faction in my face as rebuttal yet it proves myself and a few others have said on this thread. I ain't bookmarking the site nir taking orders from anybody. Simple as that. Factionalise till the cows come home.

Best
Randy
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If you choose not to join then that is your choice. NEVER has anybody talked of making orders or for forcing anybody to do anything. This would be a tool to use the collective group in a more targeted way. As blunt as I can put it, standing in some city waving signs or hanging out RP Revolution banners over a freeway is completely and utterly useless if RP doesn't win several of the first five primary states. With an organization like what is being proposed, the combined efforts of ALL RP supporters can be focused more toward winning those states. I appreciate everybody's efforts but It seems to me that there are those of us with a background in Politics and campaigning that know a little bit more about what type of system is used by winning campaigns. I know everybody will say that this is different and we are revolutionary. No, we aren't. grass roots support has been done a million times over, only difference is that this one is bigger then most, and therefore again proves the need for better communication and more effective direction.
For instance, sign waving seems to be a very popular activity. It is also not the most effective. Going down to the supervisor of elections office and getting a list of registered voters and doing specific mailing or door to door handouts is much more effective. These people have already proven to vote. These people donate to campaigns. These people are the ones who will get polled over the phone and will add legitimacy to RP campaign. Some people think that the polls are rigged, or that there is some neo-con conspiracy to keep us down. I don't buy it. The truth is this. Those that hear RP message generally support it but his name recognition is low. Targeting specific groups is much more effective then shotgunning the message. Organization is the means to target these groups. We must win NH, and at least two other states in the first five if RP wants to have a chance. We organize now and focus on three states we make the difference. We keep going individually then we all feel really good about ourselves for making such a great effort in what will turn out to be a losing effort.
 
I'd also like to point out that my radio station can be used as media for official events, and can therefore go to any event in which media and the press is allowed.
 
LibertyEagle said:
Hey guys. No one is talking about any kind of pecking order here. Nor, is there any need for anyone to participate in this whole thing at all. But, are there a few things that might be more efficiently setup from a national level, rather than require everyone to go out and reinvent the wheel, or to have the manpower within their Meetup groups to do so? We're not talking everything here. Just maybe a few strategic things.
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This makes sense to me.. This is the proper talkng attitude to have towrds this. The other gist of the thread made it ~sound~ like it was a central clearing house for grssroots with this so-and-so or that mr/ms. experienced will inform you peaons of what you will and will not do. Neither should any resource be guarded by a select few.. It should not be public but neither should those needing the info have to await so-and-so to download their email and reply.

I can see for example it working well for this. Say someone in a meetup group in Fresno has a printshop and wants to donate the printing of 50,000 of the mosaic posters. A sticky gets posted with contact info and a request for donations, which are not strictly necessary, to replenish the stock.. Or an event is going to occur say in New Hampshire. A map and text directons to get to the place where the RP nexus will occur should be posted. As well a ride board with a "Seats Available From" and "Rides Needed From" would be helpful. If there is to be things built or media booth installs then notes should be made that folks arriving early for such and such should start arriving at such and such time.. People who are RP supporters will arrive and lend a hand.. Trust the real American can-do spirit.

So.. I can see the need for an indexing of events and requests specific to those events. I can see a need for an email broadcast system for getting the word on important issues out. I cannot see a need for "Jeff Frazzee says!!!" Sorry.. I go blank immediately and skip to the next relevant piece of information. An Index of what, where and why and contact who for details, not orders or delegation of their color of authority seem to be in order. I think I am smart enough that when I do not know something I know who to ask to fnd out. I think most people are if given credit instead of debited as sheep all the time.

Our strength comes from us as individuals cooperating where we can and when we see our fit. Middle management always suffers from The Peter Principle. Hence..Washingtomb BC.,

Best Regards
Randy
 
happyphilter said:
So are we doing this or what? I think the first thing that must be done is having a website with a forum where we ALL can migrate to and use(from all RP forums) and a list of activities.
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Neh, can't say I want to add another forum to my bookmarks. Why would everyone gravitate there when they don't already gravitate here or to the main Meetup forum? Redundancy is not always a good thing. Often it ensures fractionalization.
 
G-khan said:
I do not want someone commanding me to do anything - if this restricts my liberty to do what I want for the good Dr. I am against it.

It seems to me that any time something starts getting big you have people that want to control and take power - no thank you!

I think a centralized command and control will do to us what centralized government has done to the states..

"Live free or die" comes to mind.......
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Absolutely! The meetups are out there and I get emails from them daily. People know what they need to be doing and that is getting out there and talking to people. We don't need a www.federalronpaulmeetupandorforum.com. Besides, several sources give people choices, thus freedom from bias.
 
Horatio Negersky said:
I think that if the main point is communication that we shouldn't add extra levels of administration to this process by creating shell heirarchy after shell heirarchy which takes a group of individuals and makes a group of groups of individuals instead. It's like purposefully installing middlemen.

All you really need to do is create a meetup.com list of numbered RP Groups with their email addresses i.e. [email protected], update it weekly and provide a link to the full list in outlook address book format or comma delimited text for your e-mail client to pull up and use as a direct email list to simultaneously broadcast a message to all groups or a selection of the groups. Then you don't need a site, or a leader, or a group of leaders, or a leader of groups of leaders of the groups of individuals, you need the willing and you need one extra file to be uploaded HERE at the forums and wherever else necessary with links provided in a conspicuous location. Anyone can do it _at_their_liberty_ in a matter of moments then.
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Negersky
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Quoted for agreement. I will bet LibertyEagle has most of the meetup group email info or knows where to get it..

Best Regards
Randy
 
Agreed.

Horatio Negersky
I think that if the main point is communication that we shouldn't add extra levels of administration to this process by creating shell heirarchy after shell heirarchy which takes a group of individuals and makes a group of groups of individuals instead. It's like purposefully installing middlemen.​

I agree and but also think the simple database and free access would be best on it's own site.

Currently, it's a nightmare because of the MeetUp.com RULES regarding emailing.
They limit you to 25 emails in a 24 hr period. It was gruesome watching what Jennifer had to go through.....trying to assign and rally volunteers to simply contact 25 then another to contact 25 more...and so on.

What we are trying to create will bypass the MeetUp.com email block.:)
 
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