Egg a day tied to lower risk of heart disease

[dannno]

But animal fat is a different story, and there are tons and tons of studies show a diet high in animal products linked to clogged arteries, higher risk of cancer and heart disease, etc.

Uh, no, those studies were decades ago, they were wrong and have all proven to be paid for by big ag who wanted to grow a lot of cheap grains.

Saturated fat is good for you.

Most vegetable oils are HORRIBLE for you, they are very high in omega 6 fatty acids and can cause heart attacks. That is why more people are having heart attacks, because they stopped frying things in animal fats and started using vegetable oils back in the 80s.

The exception is coconut oil, olive oil and avocado oil, those are pretty good - but corn, soy, peanut and anything labelled "vegetable oil" is really, really bad..

 

[dannno]

No, he/she is not. Ender was not talking specifically about treating certain problems, (like CNS problems) he/she said it was the healthiest diet all around, and that is flat out false. Sure people have lost weight on this diet, but that in and of itself doesn't make it healthy. You can lose weight smoking cigarettes or from chemotherapy, but I wouldn't recommend those things either. Despite any short term benefits, in the long run it's dangerous. But I can definitely understand why people like it. Who wouldn't want to eat all their favorite foods like lard and bacon and steak, etc. lol

It's the most nutritious diet that promotes a good metabolism and insulin sensitivity. It will reverse and heal diabetes. It includes plenty of vegetables - a little bit of fruit maybe, but typically fruits that contain very little sugar.

 

[Suzanimal]

You know what is rude? (not to mention hateful) Going around saying that all vegans are batshit crazy, but I didn't -rep you or lash out at you about that. Furthermore, you managed to completely miss the point, and I already explained that to AF, but I guess you didn't read that post? I wasn't talking about meateaters in general when I brought up the Jeffrey Dahmer comment, I was specifically talking about the bizarreness of claiming to adore animals but then killing/eating them. And even that was said in a sort of tongue-in-cheek way, which obviously did not come across… But I would think that you of all people would understand that not everything is to be taken so literally/seriously. But if you were offended by this, I'm sorry, I will exit your safe space.

1. I didn't go around saying that. I said it in one thread about bat shit crazy vegans. Do you think the people referenced in that thread were sane?
2. I also didn't claim I was trying not to be rude and disrespectful. I was.
3. I don't give a crap if you -rep me and if you do, I won't whine about it like you do every time you get one, snowflake.
4. I don't need a safe space and I don't think you're joking about carcasses and pus. Post whatever you want but be prepared when people don't react the way you would like them to.

I am absolutely against forcing people to do anything. So I don't know where that came from, because we were talking about completely other things. Anyway, I've got other far more important things I have to do today, besides sit around on this forum, so I'm leaving this discussion for now.

That's good to hear. I mentioned it because you've made posts eluding that you would support laws banning meat. I don't remember the thread but you said "not at this time" and only claimed you wouldn't when AF pressed you.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Uh, no, those studies were decades ago, they were wrong and have all proven to be paid for by big ag who wanted to grow a lot of cheap grains.

Saturated fat is good for you.

Most vegetable oils are HORRIBLE for you, they are very high in omega 6 fatty acids and can cause heart attacks. That is why more people are having heart attacks, because they stopped frying things in animal fats and started using vegetable oils back in the 80s.

The exception is coconut oil, olive oil and avocado oil, those are pretty good - but corn, soy, peanut and anything labelled "vegetable oil" is really, really bad..

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to dannno again.

Ya, people don't realize that those propaganda ad campaigns to make the public think corn, soy, and various other vegetable oils are superior were sponsored by big agra. Rather like how the food pyramid is just a tool for selling grain and cash crops. #corporatistscam

 

[lilymc]

1. I didn't go around saying that. I said it in one thread about bat $#@! crazy vegans. Do you think the people referenced in that thread were sane?
2. I also didn't claim I was trying not to be rude and disrespectful. I was.
3. I don't give a crap if you -rep me and if you do, I won't whine about it like you do every time you get one, snowflake.
4. I don't need a safe space and I don't think you're joking about carcasses and pus. Post whatever you want but be prepared when people don't react the way you would like them to.

That's good to hear. I mentioned it because you've made posts eluding that you would support laws banning meat. I don't remember the thread but you said "not at this time" and only claimed you wouldn't when AF pressed you.

You said "Most are bat $#@! crazy." Which doesn't sound like you were talking only about the ones referenced in that article. #3 Is also untrue. But whatever. I really don't want to argue with you. I couldn't care less about your neg rep. However I do find it funny that you felt the need to publicly tell everyone that you -repped me. That seems to be an attention-seeking move, so who is the snowflake here?

 

[lilymc]

Ya, people don't realize that those propaganda ad campaigns to make the public think corn, soy, and various other vegetable oils are superior were sponsored by big agra. Rather like how the food pyramid is just a tool for selling grain and cash crops. #corporatistscam

The animal industries are notorious for funding false or misleading studies. There's enough corporatism to go around for everybody. To me it's absurd and laughable that anyone would think eating lard, carcasses, and the product of death and enslavement is healthier than eating fresh, healthy whole foods that we were designed to eat. But you guys can do whatever the heck you want to do. Enjoy your constipation.

 

[dannno]

 

[dannno]

Enjoy your constipation.

I poop two times in the morning, I poop two times at night, I poop two times in the afternoon it makes me feel alright. I poop two times in times of peace and two in times of war. I poop two times before I poop two times, then I poop two more.

If you eat a low carb diet you are not having problems with constipation...

 

[Suzanimal]

You said "Most are bat $#@! crazy." Which doesn't sound like you were talking only about the ones referenced in that article. #3 Is also untrue. But whatever. I really don't want to argue with you. I couldn't care less about your neg rep. However I do find it funny that you felt the need to publicly tell everyone that you -repped me. That seems to be an attention-seeking move, so who is the snowflake here?

Exactly. Most are.

I always publicly give -reps because I think it's shady to give them if you're not willing to come right out and say you did it and why.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Uh, no, those studies were decades ago, they were wrong and have all proven to be paid for by big ag who wanted to grow a lot of cheap grains.

Saturated fat is good for you.

Most vegetable oils are HORRIBLE for you, they are very high in omega 6 fatty acids and can cause heart attacks. That is why more people are having heart attacks, because they stopped frying things in animal fats and started using vegetable oils back in the 80s.

The exception is coconut oil, olive oil and avocado oil, those are pretty good - but corn, soy, peanut and anything labelled "vegetable oil" is really, really bad..

Yep- heart attacks have definitely been soaring.... er um... declining since the 1980.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

The animal industries are notorious for funding false or misleading studies. There's enough corporatism to go around for everybody. To me it's absurd and laughable that anyone would think eating lard, carcasses, and the product of death and enslavement is healthier than eating fresh, healthy whole foods that we were designed to eat. But you guys can do whatever the heck you want to do. Enjoy your constipation.

Not "healthier", equally healthy. You keep erecting all these strawmen as if it advanced your argument. I prefer sustainable organic food to the big agra meat co's that we know grain or soy-feed/finish animals and abuse them. It's not like anyone's saying "JUST EAT MEAT". You're supposed to eat way more vegetables and fruits than meats. More than the USDA wants, too.

 

[dannno]

Yep- heart attacks have definitely been soaring.... er um... declining since the 1980.

Explaining the Decrease in U.S. Deaths from Coronary Disease, 1980–2000


Approximately 47% of this decrease was attributed to treatments, including secondary preventive therapies after myocardial infarction or revascularization (11%), initial treatments for acute myocardial infarction or unstable angina (10%), treatments for heart failure (9%), revascularization for chronic angina (5%), and other therapies (12%).

Approximately 44% was attributed to changes in risk factors, including reductions in total cholesterol (24%), systolic blood pressure (20%), smoking prevalence (12%), and physical inactivity (5%), although these reductions were partially offset by increases in the body-mass index and the prevalence of diabetes, which accounted for an increased number of deaths (8% and 10%, respectively).

The two parts in bold are important - the second part supports my argument, the first part has been disproven.

Most heart attack patients' cholesterol levels did not indicate cardiac risk. A new national study has shown that nearly75 percent of patients hospitalized for a heart attack had cholesterol levels thatwould indicate they were not at high risk fora cardiovascular event, based oncurrent national cholesterol guidelines.

Because these are expensive trials, very few of them are done. But those that exist have indicated that cholesterol levels are, in fact, a very poor predictor of future heart attacks

During the past several years, more and more research, especially from prospective studies, has shown that elevated insulin puts you at a greatly increased risk of heart disease.

 

[lilymc]

Uh, no, those studies were decades ago, they were wrong and have all proven to be paid for by big ag who wanted to grow a lot of cheap grains.

Saturated fat is good for you.

lol. I'm not even going to argue with you, because you are more hard-core into that diet than anyone else here, and it is clear that nothing anyone says would ever change your mind. I think you're wrong on multiple levels, but you do you.

Most vegetable oils are HORRIBLE for you, they are very high in omega 6 fatty acids and can cause heart attacks. That is why more people are having heart attacks, because they stopped frying things in animal fats and started using vegetable oils back in the 80s.

The exception is coconut oil, olive oil and avocado oil, those are pretty good - but corn, soy, peanut and anything labelled "vegetable oil" is really, really bad..

I almost always use olive oil, but I'm going to try to use less oil in general. I already get enough healthy fats from things like avocado, nuts, etc.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

lol. I'm not even going to argue with you, because you are more hard-core into that diet than anyone else here, and it is clear that nothing anyone says would ever change your mind. I think you're wrong on multiple levels, but you do you.



I almost always use olive oil, but I'm going to try to use less oil in general. I already get enough healthy fats from things like avocado, nuts, etc.

That's my fave too! ~hugs~ Olive has the least weird taste of any cooking fat I've tried yet. Basically neutral.

 

[lilymc]

That's my fave too! ~hugs~ Olive has the least weird taste of any cooking fat I've tried yet. Basically neutral.

Yeah! It has other good uses too, like a deep conditioner for your hair, etc.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Yeah! It has other good uses too, like a deep conditioner for your hair, etc.

o rlly? How much do you use when you apply as conditioner?

 

[lilymc]

o rlly? How much do you use when you apply as conditioner?

Sorry, I was ordering some takeout. You don't really need that much… Just a few tablespoons. Maybe more depending on the length of one's hair. I think I'm due for a deep conditioner. I want to get more into the natural DIY stuff. Donnay knows a lot about that stuff, and sells those kinds of products.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Sorry, I was ordering some takeout. You don't really need that much… Just a few tablespoons. Maybe more depending on the length of one's hair. I think I'm due for a deep conditioner. I want to get more into the natural DIY stuff. Donnay knows a lot about that stuff, and sells those kinds of products.

ok thnx. ~hugs~ Mine is ~2 ft long.

 

[The Gold Standard]

So...eggs huh?

 

[dannno]

So...eggs huh?

It makes a lot of sense that eggs and milk are some of the healthiest foods on the planet.. I guess not everybody can digest dairy that well, but for those who can, wow, that is some good nutrition.