acptulsa
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I thought I showed considerable restraint in not referring him to my sig.
Durham report finally released.
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I thought I showed considerable restraint in not referring him to my sig.
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Do the odds. What are the odds a guy who gets elected President knew more than the less than 2-3% of the population on the internet who knew that shit?
Admittedly, the number is much higher now than it was in 2015. You have Trump to thank for that.
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IOW: "Random schmucks on the Internet have more political savvy than Donald Trump." ... than Donald Trump ...
Well, okay, I guess ... if you say so ... you say so ...
(Hey! Is there an echo in here ?... echo in here? ...)
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Define "political savy"
If you include getting elected, there are none.
If you include armchair quarterbacking all his actions in office, then ya, sure..
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That's not really moving the goalposts since none of them can get elected, and Trump can. Trump is one of the few outsiders in the entire world who has even a remote possibility of being elected President.
If Ron Paul Forums got to vote for President, and whoever won became President, I wouldn't even really consider voting for Trump.. his biggest asset is how much they fucked him over during his first term and how much vengeance he wants for that - add to that how good he is at getting vengeance.
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acptulsa
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It's the stuff you said you and I have and Trump doesn't.
But you're wrong. The mere fact that you're this convinced he isn't what he is proves he's the savvy one, not you.
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https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1661902514340651008
Presented for your (bitter) amusement:
The scandal that's hit America and will be bigger than Watergate
It will soon become clear that the Biden-Garland-establishment system has engaged in criminality that makes Watergate look like kindergarten
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/scandal-hit-america-bigger-watergate
Newt Gingrich (25 May 2023)
The current reports of executive branch illegality make Watergate look like kindergarten mischief.
It is clear from the Durham report and the work of House Republican hearings that the current scandals in the Biden White House — and senior bureaucracies at the Justice Department, IRS and elsewhere — are much deeper and more cancerous than Watergate ever was.
It may be hard to remember, but Watergate came about due to a weird, dumb and fairly narrow set of criminal behaviors which mushroomed into 69 officials being indicted and 48 imprisoned.
I remember Watergate vividly, because I first ran for Congress in 1974 during the Watergate scandal.
President Richard Nixon had won the largest popular vote majority in modern history in 1972 (60.7 percent to 37.5 percent). He won every state and territory except Massachusetts and the District of Columbia.
Two short years later, he became the first president to resign from office.
In an idiotic move, the Nixon presidential campaign sent five men to burglarize the Democratic National Committee headquarters in the Watergate Hotel. Aside from being a crime, it was idiotic because Nixon was clearly going to win in a landslide. They did not need any information. But the Nixon re-elect campaign had so much money, had hired so many people, and had become so drunk with power that it lost control of what it was doing.
The real problem came when President Nixon and his team intervened to try to control the investigation. Ultimately, the President used the CIA, the FBI and the IRS to try to divert and cover up the involvement of the campaign with the Watergate burglars.
John Mitchell became the first attorney general to be sent to jail. He was found guilty of conspiracy, obstruction of justice and perjury. He was ultimately sentenced to 19 months in a federal minimum-security prison in Montgomery, Alabama.
Mitchell is an extremely important parallel to the current disaster, because Attorney General Merrick Garland seems to be doing a lot more obstructing of justice than Mitchell ever dreamed of doing. Garland’s Justice Department reportedly instructed the IRS to disband the unit investigating Hunter Biden’s taxes.
He has used the FBI to harass former President Donald Trump and a wide range of Republicans. And he’s turned a blind eye to every report of foreign money going to the Biden family ($3 million in one Chinese transaction, a diamond sent to Hunter Biden, millions of dollars sent by the widow of the Mayor of Moscow, etc.).
Garland’s also done nothing with the clear references to "the big guy" in various Hunter Biden emails. He’s ignored the testimony of Hunter Biden’s associates that Joe Biden was actively supporting them as vice president. The list goes on.
If Nixon’s White House was trying, unsuccessfully, to manipulate the IRS, the FBI and the CIA, Biden’s White House has become quite good at it. These institutions are now so corrupted that their senior leadership is instinctively willing to break the law, frame the innocent, and obstruct justice in defense of their chosen leader. This includes lying to FISA courts, leaking falsehoods to the equally corrupt elite media, and isolating and punishing would-be whistleblowers.
Compare the shock of Democrats and Republicans in the Watergate era with the staunch unwillingness of virtually any Democrat to go after the Biden family scandals — or to be infuriated at the blatant abuses of power and obstructions of justice.
The Durham report had an impact, because it began to build a narrative of such institutional illegality and corruption that the hand of the House Republican investigators has been dramatically strengthened.
Over the next few months, we will learn more about just how sick the system has become, just how dishonest the elite corporate media are, and just how deep the need for reform is.
In Watergate, a narrow trail of idiotic criminal behavior and cover up led to 69 officials being indicted and 48 going to jail.
When the tide turns, and honest people are once again openly enraged and demanding action, we are going to learn just how much corruption there is.
At that point, we will realize that Watergate was a modest preliminary venture into lawbreaking, and the Biden-Garland-establishment system is filled with criminality on a grand scale.
Presented for your (bitter) amusement:
The scandal that's hit America and will be bigger than Watergate
It will soon become clear that the Biden-Garland-establishment system has engaged in criminality that makes Watergate look like kindergarten
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/scandal-hit-america-bigger-watergate
Newt Gingrich (25 May 2023)
The current reports of executive branch illegality make Watergate look like kindergarten mischief.
It is clear from the Durham report and the work of House Republican hearings that the current scandals in the Biden White House — and senior bureaucracies at the Justice Department, IRS and elsewhere — are much deeper and more cancerous than Watergate ever was.
It may be hard to remember, but Watergate came about due to a weird, dumb and fairly narrow set of criminal behaviors which mushroomed into 69 officials being indicted and 48 imprisoned.
I remember Watergate vividly, because I first ran for Congress in 1974 during the Watergate scandal.
President Richard Nixon had won the largest popular vote majority in modern history in 1972 (60.7 percent to 37.5 percent). He won every state and territory except Massachusetts and the District of Columbia.
Two short years later, he became the first president to resign from office.
In an idiotic move, the Nixon presidential campaign sent five men to burglarize the Democratic National Committee headquarters in the Watergate Hotel. Aside from being a crime, it was idiotic because Nixon was clearly going to win in a landslide. They did not need any information. But the Nixon re-elect campaign had so much money, had hired so many people, and had become so drunk with power that it lost control of what it was doing.
The real problem came when President Nixon and his team intervened to try to control the investigation. Ultimately, the President used the CIA, the FBI and the IRS to try to divert and cover up the involvement of the campaign with the Watergate burglars.
John Mitchell became the first attorney general to be sent to jail. He was found guilty of conspiracy, obstruction of justice and perjury. He was ultimately sentenced to 19 months in a federal minimum-security prison in Montgomery, Alabama.
Mitchell is an extremely important parallel to the current disaster, because Attorney General Merrick Garland seems to be doing a lot more obstructing of justice than Mitchell ever dreamed of doing. Garland’s Justice Department reportedly instructed the IRS to disband the unit investigating Hunter Biden’s taxes.
He has used the FBI to harass former President Donald Trump and a wide range of Republicans. And he’s turned a blind eye to every report of foreign money going to the Biden family ($3 million in one Chinese transaction, a diamond sent to Hunter Biden, millions of dollars sent by the widow of the Mayor of Moscow, etc.).
Garland’s also done nothing with the clear references to "the big guy" in various Hunter Biden emails. He’s ignored the testimony of Hunter Biden’s associates that Joe Biden was actively supporting them as vice president. The list goes on.
If Nixon’s White House was trying, unsuccessfully, to manipulate the IRS, the FBI and the CIA, Biden’s White House has become quite good at it. These institutions are now so corrupted that their senior leadership is instinctively willing to break the law, frame the innocent, and obstruct justice in defense of their chosen leader. This includes lying to FISA courts, leaking falsehoods to the equally corrupt elite media, and isolating and punishing would-be whistleblowers.
Compare the shock of Democrats and Republicans in the Watergate era with the staunch unwillingness of virtually any Democrat to go after the Biden family scandals — or to be infuriated at the blatant abuses of power and obstructions of justice.
The Durham report had an impact, because it began to build a narrative of such institutional illegality and corruption that the hand of the House Republican investigators has been dramatically strengthened.
Over the next few months, we will learn more about just how sick the system has become, just how dishonest the elite corporate media are, and just how deep the need for reform is.
In Watergate, a narrow trail of idiotic criminal behavior and cover up led to 69 officials being indicted and 48 going to jail.
When the tide turns, and honest people are once again openly enraged and demanding action, we are going to learn just how much corruption there is.
At that point, we will realize that Watergate was a modest preliminary venture into lawbreaking, and the Biden-Garland-establishment system is filled with criminality on a grand scale.
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See, this is where they always lose me. I'm not one of these "indictments and mass-arrests" buffoons... but damn-it, if you have an actual existential crisis... blood gushing from the jugular and zero blood-pressure, that's when you take decisive action, not sit around and strategize how the corpse could be useful in the next 4-year election run. "Never let a good emergency go to waste" only works for Fake News 'emergencies', not reality. What use is it to have the best possible political strategy for a 2024 Red Wave... if you're running the damn thing from a smoldering heap of radioactive ruins where a major American city used to be? If these DC insiders have so much control over this information that they can release it in a trickle "over the next few months", why hasn't this information already been acted on, a long time ago?!
The only people who seem to be comfortable in Clown World are the DC Swamp creatures, both left and right... so that means the right-wing insiders knew this was coming all along and never said anything about it... isn't that treachery, too??
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PS: Not directed at you personally, just getting fed up with years and years of this endless merry-go-round ...
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to acptulsa again.
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The MSM advertised the living shit out of him 24/7. We've told you that and told you that and told you that. When the Sunday morning blather shows had other candidates on, they asked them about Trump! All of them!
How many times do we have to answer the question? We've answered it so often we can even tell you how you respond, because we have working memories: He was too famous to ignore (which still doesn't explain why every other candidate had to answer questions about him, but okay...)
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Well, hold on. I was mostly not paying attention in 2016 but I clearly remember that everyone was saying that Trump would obviously lose to Hillary. It wasn't even a contest. Standard R-D political strategy is to lure the other side to nominate one of their "crazy true-believers" so they can scare away the moderates and throw the election to the other side. All the Democrats were in agreement: we want to run against Trump because he will lose bad.
Is there some 4D-chess scenario in which this was all pre-calculated and they were looking in a crystal ball all the way down to 2023 and calculating that they wanted Trump to get the Presidency, then lose it (for some reason)?? I mean, anything is possible in Clown World but I doubt it. There are more plausible explanations and, in my view, even Q is a more plausible explanation than this.
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