'Duck Dynasty' star makes anti-gay comments; GLAAD slams

[James Madison]

If someone is a serious way came out on national TV and said

"I do not understand ginger people, they have really pale skin that looks like it will peel if you rub on it, they have really unsightly freckles everywhere on their body and the hair color is just very unnatural and creepy. I just think they should marry each other and keep to themselves, but I love them all"

That person will be forced to make an apology tomorrow or fired from his TV show. There is a difference between a comedian making fun of black, short, ginger people and someone in a serious way dissing said group.

I don't buy that for a second. Even if a few gingers were offended, they don't have a) victim class status and b) an organization with immense political power to process the outrage into soundbites. Finally, there is no ginger community -- they integrate into society and their traits are bred out of existence within several generations, typically.

Having said that, I don't find anything in that statement to get overly riled-up about.

 

[kathy88]

One should never apologize for your religious beliefs. He clearly said he would show them love while disagreeing with their lifestyle.

GLAAD and the radical gays have launched a culture war against those of the Christian faith. It starts with a high profile case like this to condition the masses. Next step the average American being discriminated against for their Christian beliefs.
Considering the outrage I think they may have over played their hand and this looks to be back firing on the gays.

Back firing..... Bahahaha

 

[Brett85]

If someone is a serious way came out on national TV and said

"I do not understand ginger people, they have really pale skin that looks like it will peel if you rub on it, they have really unsightly freckles everywhere on their body and the hair color is just very unnatural and creepy. I just think they should marry each other and keep to themselves, but I love them all"

That person will be forced to make an apology tomorrow or fired from his TV show. There is a difference between a comedian making fun of black, short, ginger people and someone in a serious way dissing said group.

Is it just the way that this guy phrased what he said that's controversial? Would it have been controversial if he had simply said that he personally disagrees with homosexuality because of his religious beliefs? Or would you and A@E view that as being just as bad?

 

[oyarde]

Merry Christmas!



(Courtesy of Reason: http://reason.com/blog/2013/12/18/if-you-think-pajama-boy-looks-effeminate)

I dunno wtf that is , I am not watching that , but I am not getting enrolled , what is that an obummercare ad ?

 

[oyarde]

Nothing wrong with being happy at Christmas. "Don we now our gay apparel..."

The Obamacare people got it wrong, it's "don", not undon...

Yeah , but gay meant happy back in the day , only gays I know who are happy are on RPF's , the rest are miserable communist democrats, who would gladly steal everything from everyone to ensure everybody is miserable , lol

 

[Christian Liberty]

And if that wasn’t explicit enough, the “Duck Commander” added: “It seems like, to me, a vagina—as a man—would be more desirable than a man’s anus. That’s just me. I’m just thinking: There’s more there! She’s got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying? But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.”

That's really explicit coming from a conservative Christian, IMO.

I believe that homosexuality is a sin, because that's what the Bible says. However, I still don't really like to make a blanket statement like, "all gays are going to hell," because as a human being I don't have the authority to decide who goes to heaven and who goes to hell. Only God has that authority. That may not have been what Phil was saying, but I'm just pointing out that Christians have to be careful in how we present these issues to others. We are supposed to stand by Biblical principles and stand by what's right, but the greatest commandment that Christ gave us is to love one another. I've certainly been guilty in the past of being too judgemental and having an attitude that is too prideful.

I don't think Phil said that. Although, from what I've heard they are baptismal regenerationists. If that's the case I wouldn't view them as Christians anyway, and thus wouldn't take any stock in any of his judgments.

 

[kahless]

Drudge main headline since last night links to http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/duck-dynastys-phil-robertson-indefinite-666808

The comment system had defaulted to showing "Best comments" first with people overwhelming voting "Yes" to this question.

Do you support Phil Robertson's opinion?

Yes↑ No↓

27800 | 139

This morning the cowards at the Hollywood Reporter changed the default to "Newest" first and that comment is now "Awaiting Moderation". LOL

 

[Rudeman]

Saying homosexuality will lead of bestiality is not cool, also how is it that he does not know that for gays, everything is backwards. Their best friends are females and they are attracted to guys. The guy should have passed on that whole line of questions, nothing good can come out of answering it.

Except he didn't, at least not in anything you quoted. Unless you think he said that homosexuality leads to bestiality which leads to sleeping around with woman after woman. Which would seem like a weird cycle (probably because he didn't say it). You can disagree with him all you want but lets not twist his words.

 

[69360]

I think the gay lobby overplayed their hand big time with this one. The backlash I've seen in article comments is 100 to 1 in favor of Phil Robertson.

Personally I don't think their is anything wrong with being gay or with what Phil said.

 

[UtahApocalypse]

Well this once again proves reality shows are fake.

 

[juleswin]

Except he didn't, at least not in anything you quoted. Unless you think he said that homosexuality leads to bestiality which leads to sleeping around with woman after woman. Which would seem like a weird cycle (probably because he didn't say it). You can disagree with him all you want but lets not twist his words.

Then how exactly should I interpret this quote from him?

: “Everything is blurred on what’s right and what’s wrong… Sin becomes fine. Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men.”

The fact that he even tries to make any connection between homosexuality and bestiality is what I think people take offense to. I think he should have passed on the subject and maybe just say that he is against the lifestyle and his religion or even say he doesn't know enough about homosexuals to make a sensible contribution to the topic.

 

[juleswin]

I think the gay lobby overplayed their hand big time with this one. The backlash I've seen in article comments is 100 to 1 in favor of Phil Robertson.

Personally I don't think there is anything wrong with being gay or with what Phil said.

This is going to be a big win for A&E, they signed a multi year deal with the rest of the clan which means that the show will be on for a few more years to come and if the show is on, the fans will be there to support it.

Add to this the popularity the show is generating from all the controversy and what it will do to merchandise sales which i believe A&E gets a small percentage of. This is a win for everyone including Phil who has indicated in the past that he wanted to take a break from the show.

 

[PierzStyx]

As backtracking goes, Robertson’s statement isn’t very contrite and seems to contradict his previous statements. He would “never treat anyone with disrespect,” yet just compared gay people to drunkards and prostitutes and adulterers and thieves and said they were locked out of heaven. Which sounds pretty disrespectful, no?

I'm pretty sure he didn't make that comparison. The Apostle Paul made that one.

 

[Christian Liberty]

Who the fuck cares?

A + E has the right to fire him, but I care because I suspect these kinds of statements will become criminal as these special interest groups get more and more powerful.

I don't believe in the homosexual lifestyle. If someone does, and they want to do that, that's on them. But at this point its gay people pushing their tyranny on Christians, not the other way around. If you really think they'll stop here, well, I disagree with you.

 

[green73]

I'm pretty sure he didn't make that comparison. The Apostle Paul made that one.

I didn't say those things.

 

[Todd]

It seems like, to me, a vagina -- as a man -- would be more desirable than a man's anus

Can't say I disagree. Sam Kinison used to get big laughs for essentially saying the same thing.

 

[Christian Liberty]

I don't buy that for a second. Even if a few gingers were offended, they don't have a) victim class status and b) an organization with immense political power to process the outrage into soundbites. Finally, there is no ginger community -- they integrate into society and their traits are bred out of existence within several generations, typically.

Having said that, I don't find anything in that statement to get overly riled-up about.

I don't either. Phil just said what the Bible says about it. As far as I understand it, he was asked the question anyway. Even if not, what he said wasn't in any way crossing the line.

If someone is a serious way came out on national TV and said

"I do not understand ginger people, they have really pale skin that looks like it will peel if you rub on it, they have really unsightly freckles everywhere on their body and the hair color is just very unnatural and creepy. I just think they should marry each other and keep to themselves, but I love them all"

That person will be forced to make an apology tomorrow or fired from his TV show. There is a difference between a comedian making fun of black, short, ginger people and someone in a serious way dissing said group.



Had Eddie Murphy said what he said in a non stand up way about gays, he would have faced the same problem as Roberson.

There's a difference between physical appearance and lifestyle. There's also a difference between hating the sin and hating the sinner.

 

[juleswin]

For the record, I did not see his apology on first reading. So that changes my whole point about making some middle of the road apology to try and satisfy the good people that were offended by his remark

For anyone who missed the apology like I did, here it is again from the OP

UPDATE: A&E released this statement from Phil Robertson addressing the controversy: “I myself am a product of the 60s; I centered my life around sex, drugs and rock and roll until I hit rock bottom and accepted Jesus as my Savior. My mission today is to go forth and tell people about why I follow Christ and also what the bible teaches, and part of that teaching is that women and men are meant to be together. However, I would never treat anyone with disrespect just because they are different from me. We are all created by the Almighty and like Him, I love all of humanity. We would all be better off if we loved God and loved each other.” Beyond that, A&E had no comment.

As backtracking goes, Robertson’s statement isn’t very contrite and seems to contradict his previous statements. He would “never treat anyone with disrespect,” yet just compared gay people to drunkards and prostitutes and adulterers and thieves and said they were locked out of heaven. Which sounds pretty disrespectful, no?

I wonder if he said it like Keith Chegwin in the clip from Extras

 

[Christian Liberty]

Why should he have apologized? What did he say that was so offensive?

Out of curiosity, has Justin Raimondo commented on this at all?

 

[brushfire]

Can't say I disagree. Sam Kinison used to get big laughs for essentially saying the same thing.

Some people are fascinated by having things up their a$$. I know someone who works with pathology reports, and they come across some interesting reports now and then. I've seen them, redacted of course - for HIPA reasons, and I find it rather intriguing too. Not once have I been in the shower, while shampooing my hair, and wondered... hmmm?.. I bet I could shove this up my a$$. The thought has never crossed my mind, not to mention even giving it a go. Its also quite amusing to read a medical description of a shampoo bottle, dimensions and all. Someone had to measure that thing - LOL.

People's bodies are people's bodies, and people's opinions are people's opinions... BFD if Phil does understand the queer guy - there's nothing that says he fk'n has to. Get on with it... Its a big world, there will be somebody out there who will accept you for who you are.

Its right to point out how the gladys are being just a little hypocritical here.