'Duck Dynasty' star makes anti-gay comments; GLAAD slams

[phill4paul]

A&E didn't seem to have a problem airing this episode....



"Mother issues".. Si's got 'em. Lol.

 

[Miss Annie]

Only on RPF are you expected to be tolerant of the intolerant. Only on RPF(and DU) is free speech expect to be a one way deal. Sorry guys but it is not a contradiction for a tolerant person to be intolerant of the intolerant, its the same way you showing no respect to someone who doesn't respect themselves doesn't make you a hypocrite. And also the idea that A&E firing this man for expressing his freedom of speech some how violates his freedom of speech omits the A&E by firing him is also expressing its freedom of expression. It just shows that actions be it in form of speech have consequences. You also use your freedom of expression by boycotting A&E for what they did to him. Its a free world.

I actually like the show in the few episodes I watch at work, the family is really nice and funny. I think the whole episode could have been handled differently, he like most people living in the country and non western countries have very little knowledge about gay people. He should have plead the 5th and said he knows nothing and them and their lifestyle. People indeed do fear what they do not understand and in his attempt to be frank about something he was ignorant about, he said something that offended the whole group of people

He should come out and do some sort of middle of the road apology and be done with it. Please man up and don't fuck it up for the rest of the clan.

I don't get why he should apologize for stating his opinions and beliefs? Maybe a disclaimer, stating that his views in no way reflect the views of A&E, but I don't see where an apology is necessary. Was he intolerant? I don't think so? Does he disagree with people, yes, but since when is that intolerance? People disagree with me all that time, that is their right and I WANT them to have that right..... so that I in turn may have the right to disagree right back with them! Since when did disagreement become intolerance?

 

[Cowlesy]

Breaking: Duck Dynasty star Phil Robertson has been fired.

lol

I mean, what else is there to really type but "lol" to that.

 

[kahless]

Only on RPF are you expected to be tolerant of the intolerant. Only on RPF(and DU) is free speech expect to be a one way deal. Sorry guys but it is not a contradiction for a tolerant person to be intolerant of the intolerant, its the same way you showing no respect to someone who doesn't respect themselves doesn't make you a hypocrite. And also the idea that A&E firing this man for expressing his freedom of speech some how violates his freedom of speech omits the A&E by firing him is also expressing its freedom of expression. It just shows that actions be it in form of speech have consequences. You also use your freedom of expression by boycotting A&E for what they did to him. Its a free world.

I actually like the show in the few episodes I watch at work, the family is really nice and funny. I think the whole episode could have been handled differently, he like most people living in the country and non western countries have very little knowledge about gay people. He should have plead the 5th and said he knows nothing and them and their lifestyle. People indeed do fear what they do not understand and in his attempt to be frank about something he was ignorant about, he said something that offended the whole group of people

He should come out and do some sort of middle of the road apology and be done with it. Please man up and don't fuck it up for the rest of the clan.

One should never apologize for your religious beliefs. He clearly said he would show them love while disagreeing with their lifestyle.

GLAAD and the radical gays have launched a culture war against those of the Christian faith. It starts with a high profile case like this to condition the masses. Next step the average American being discriminated against for their Christian beliefs.

Considering the outrage I think they may have over played their hand and this looks to be back firing on the gays.

 

[Cowlesy]

The only way these guys look like idiots if they start the bleating apologies and that they were "misunderstood." I hope Phil just shrugs and goes Duck Hunting.

I kind of doubt GLAAD members are a huge segment of the Duck Call user population.

 

[green73]

I kind of doubt GLAAD members are a huge segment of the Duck Call user population.

They're really missing out. I understand a lisp makes a mallard drake want to fly right into your lap.

 

[juleswin]

I don't get why he should apologize for stating his opinions and beliefs? Maybe a disclaimer, stating that his views in no way reflect the views of A&E, but I don't see where an apology is necessary. Was he intolerant? I don't think so? Does he disagree with people, yes, but since when is that intolerance? People disagree with me all that time, that is their right and I WANT them to have that right..... so that I in turn may have the right to disagree right back with them! Since when did disagreement become intolerance?

You apologize because what was said offended or was going to offend a lot of people regardless of whether the disclaimer was given or not. Also, i am not even sure if what he said was technically intolerant but it was definitely ignorant.

Also, disagreeing with someone about something that is innate to them can be offensive. He would have gotten the same treatment if he said something similar about short, disabled, black, or maybe even red haired people because the general public seems to take offense at people that go around offending groups of people.

 

[Brett85]

I certainly don't agree with firing him. I wonder whether he would've been fired if he would've simply said something like, "as a Christian, I personally disagree with homosexuality, but I respect other people's points of view on the issue." I think he could've said what he said a little bit differently. But, even saying something like that may not have even been good enough for the GLADD people. You probably can't even state that you disagree with homosexuality if you want to have your own show on TV.

 

[Miss Annie]

You apologize because what was said offended or was going to offend a lot of people regardless of whether the disclaimer was given or not. Also, i am not even sure if what he said was technically intolerant but it was definitely ignorant.

Also, disagreeing with someone about something that is innate to them can be offensive. He would have gotten the same treatment if he said something similar about short, disabled, black, or maybe even red haired people because the general public seems to take offense at people that go around offending groups of people.

It is his right to be ignorant. I don't believe that homosexuality is innate, no more than being a cheater is innate. It's a choice. People go from homosexuality to heterosexuality all the time. It's not like someone who has Down's syndrome or something. People are ignorant about Christianity all the time,...... we choose whether or not we are going to be offended.
"No one can make me feel inferior without my permission" ~ Eleanor Roosevelt

 

[Brian4Liberty]

The establishment really has the diversion thing down...


"Squirrel!"

 

[juleswin]

It is his right to be ignorant. I don't believe that homosexuality is innate, no more than being a cheater is innate. It's a choice. People go from homosexuality to heterosexuality all the time. It's not like someone who has Down's syndrome or something. People are ignorant about Christianity all the time,...... we choose whether or not we are going to be offended.
"No one can make me feel inferior without my permission" ~ Eleanor Roosevelt

You are right, everyone has the right to be ignorant, but if you make what most people consider to be an ignorant statement in public, they expect you to apologize. The truth is that majority of the people see homosexuality as a innate condition and until that changes, people making statement with the assumption that it is a changeable behaviour will be pressured to apologize for what they said.

 

[fr33]

I think A&E will be the biggest loser over this ordeal.

 

[James Madison]

Also, disagreeing with someone about something that is innate to them can be offensive. He would have gotten the same treatment if he said something similar about short, disabled, black, or maybe even red haired people because the general public seems to take offense at people that go around offending groups of people.

You don't honestly believe what I bolded, do you? Short people are routinely mocked across all forms of media -- weak, inferior, un-athletic, compensating for something. Short (pun not intended) of saying the disabled should be put to death, they're free to mock, unless it's someone of note like Michael J. Fox or Christopher Reeves. People rip on gingers all the time. I will give you black people, though.

 

[juleswin]

One should never apologize for your religious beliefs. He clearly said he would show them love while disagreeing with their lifestyle.

GLAAD and the radical gays have launched a culture war against those of the Christian faith. It starts with a high profile case like this to condition the masses. Next step the average American being discriminated against for their Christian beliefs.

Considering the outrage I think they may have over played their hand and this looks to be back firing on the gays.

If you believe him, Barrack Obama used the same excuse for not supporting gay marriage so i dont think it was just because of his religion. I think the quote below is what people find offensive because I don't think anyone who ever watched a whole episode of Duck Command thinks he or anyone from the show was pro gay lifestyle.

“Everything is blurred on what’s right and what’s wrong… Sin becomes fine. Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men.”

“It seems like, to me, a vagina—as a man—would be more desirable than a man’s anus. That’s just me. I’m just thinking: There’s more there! She’s got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying? But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.”

Saying homosexuality will lead of bestiality is not cool, also how is it that he does not know that for gays, everything is backwards. Their best friends are females and they are attracted to guys. The guy should have passed on that whole line of questions, nothing good can come out of answering it.

 

[malkusm]

I believe that homosexuality is a sin, because that's what the Bible says. However, I still don't really like to make a blanket statement like, "all gays are going to hell," because as a human being I don't have the authority to decide who goes to heaven and who goes to hell. Only God has that authority. That may not have been what Phil was saying, but I'm just pointing out that Christians have to be careful in how we present these issues to others. We are supposed to stand by Biblical principles and stand by what's right, but the greatest commandment that Christ gave us is to love one another. I've certainly been guilty in the past of being too judgemental and having an attitude that is too prideful.

+rep ... particularly what resonates with me is the "Only God has that authority" part. If I believe in His judgment, what right have I to judge? If I don't, what difference does it make? Either way, people need to focus more on getting their own houses in order than on what others are doing with theirs.

 

[Miss Annie]

You are right, everyone has the right to be ignorant, but if you make what most people consider to be an ignorant statement in public, they expect you to apologize. The truth is that majority of the people see homosexuality as a innate condition and until that changes, people making statement with the assumption that it is a changeable behaviour will be pressured to apologize for what they said.

I don't think the majority of people are homosexuals (I think only the homosexuals see it as an innate condition) and I don't think that people should have to crater to mob rule either. He may have been inarticulate, but he actually used very "scientific" words.... LOL. As I stated before, I don't think he should apologize for his beliefs. If thats the case he needs to apologize to adulterers, idolators, the greedy, drunkards, slanderers and swindlers.

 

[ONUV]

almost 8000 comments from angry neocons on the article drudge linked lol

 

[juleswin]

You don't honestly believe what I bolded, do you? Short people are routinely mocked across all forms of media -- weak, inferior, un-athletic, compensating for something. Short (pun not intended) of saying the disabled should be put to death, they're free to mock, unless it's someone of note like Michael J. Fox or Christopher Reeves. People rip on gingers all the time. I will give you black people, though.

If someone is a serious way came out on national TV and said

"I do not understand ginger people, they have really pale skin that looks like it will peel if you rub on it, they have really unsightly freckles everywhere on their body and the hair color is just very unnatural and creepy. I just think they should marry each other and keep to themselves, but I love them all"

That person will be forced to make an apology tomorrow or fired from his TV show. There is a difference between a comedian making fun of black, short, ginger people and someone in a serious way dissing said group.



Had Eddie Murphy said what he said in a non stand up way about gays, he would have faced the same problem as Roberson.

 

[Henry Rogue]

Great. Now the NSA thinks I'm gay.

That's going to end up in somebodies signature, probably Danke's.

 

[Brett85]

+rep ... particularly what resonates with me is the "Only God has that authority" part. If I believe in His judgment, what right have I to judge? If I don't, what difference does it make? Either way, people need to focus more on getting their own houses in order than on what others are doing with theirs.

Yeah, I've just discovered from reading and studying the Bible that I have enough problems in my own personal life that I don't need to spend all my time judging others.