Drudge - Shock Poll: Obama 42%, Ron Paul 41%

[georgiaboy]

^^ to wit, it brought to my mind the first quote in your sig, tt!

 

[fj45lvr]

This is why the Establishment media has attacked Ron Paul for three years. They know that he would shatter the political paradigm in this country and defeat the Chosen One head-to-head.

Paul has been on many mainstream networks since running so I hardly see that as "attacking"....now they may decide to "turn off" the spigot or smear him any time the want to but he hasn't been "blacked out".

 

[paulim]

CBS does everything they can to discredit the poll:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20002497-503544.html

 

[Brian4Liberty]

healthcare is a bs issue. the fact is both sides are not addressing the real issue= Insurance Corruption!!

qft!

 

[TC95]

CBS does everything they can to discredit the poll:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20002497-503544.html

In the comments:

"In a hypothetical general election matchup between Palin and Mr. Obama, the poll found, the president wins by double digits, 55 percent to 42 percent. He also beats Romney 53 percent to 45 percent, Huckabee 54 percent to 45 percent, and Gingrich 55 percent to 43 percent.
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I love this! In other words throw anyone you want out there we got ya beat! : )"


Yeah, anyone except Ron Paul. Obama's only beating him by one percentage point in the Rasmussen poll. Not exactly a serious womp. LOL

 

[Bruno]

CBS does everything they can to discredit the poll:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20002497-503544.html

haha! They are falling overthemselves trying to come up with stuff.

they left out "quixotic"

 

[tsopranos]

Awesome news...

How early do candidates usually announce again? What would the timeframe look like if Ron decided to run in 2012?

We'd be a lot more prepared this time around that's for sure. The forum is already in place. We should be discussing what we can do better this time around as well as how we can avoid/circumvent the media & political tactics used against RP in '08.

 

[mnewcomb]

haha! They are falling overthemselves trying to come up with stuff.

Yeah, they will call elections based on these polls, but not when one involves Ron Paul...

 

[fatjohn]

CBS does everything they can to discredit the poll:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20002497-503544.html

The writer is retarded:

Is Ron Paul Neck in Neck With Obama in 2012?
Posted by Brian Montopoli

From the "take it with a huge grain of salt" department: A Rasmussen Reports poll pitting libertarian-leaning Republican Rep. Ron Paul against President Obama for the 2012 presidential election finds the two men within one point of each other among likely voters.

 

[muh_roads]

I have a feeling End the Mandate could propel him to the front. We need to push this just as hard as End the Fed. The sheep within the GOP will understand End the Mandate better.

Awesome day.

 

[pmbug]

So what do they define as the "political class"?

...
Initially, Rasmussen Reports labeled the groups Populist and Political Class. However, despite the many news stories referring to populist anger over bailouts and other government actions, the labels created confusion for some. In particular, some equated populist attitudes with the views of the late-19th century Populist Party. To avoid that confusion, and since a majority clearly hold skeptical views about the ruling elites, we now label the groups Mainstream and Political Class.

The questions used to calculate the Index are:

-- Generally speaking, when it comes to important national issues, whose judgment do you trust more - the American people or America’s political leaders?

-- Some people believe that the federal government has become a special interest group that looks out primarily for its own interests. Has the federal government become a special interest group?

-- Do government and big business often work together in ways that hurt consumers and investors?

To create a scale, each response earns a plus 1 for the populist answer, a minus 1 for the political class answer, and a 0 for not sure.

Those who score 2 or higher are considered a populist or part of the Mainstream. Those who score -2 or lower are considered to be aligned with the Political Class. Those who score +1 or -1 are considered leaners in one direction or the other.

In practical terms, if someone is classified with the Mainstream, they agree with the mainstream view on at least two of the three questions and don’t agree with the Political Class on any.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...2010/65_now_hold_populist_or_mainstream_views

Basically, it is more than just politicians and political (party) insiders. It includes the folks who haven't yet taken the red pill.

 

[purplechoe]

 

[MatM]

Lol, this is what came under related topics when I looked under google news for articles covering the poll:

 

[charrob]

What good news to see this headline! Happy Day!

 

[silentshout]

Wonderful news!

 

[fatjohn]

lol, this is what came under related topics when i looked under google news for articles covering the poll:

thread post ftw!!! :d

 

[Fox McCloud]

the question is, what's more important to the Republicans at this point? Maintaining a tight grip over their party and continuing on a Neocon agenda or appealing to what more people want (and what gives them a chance to win).

Either way, very interesting results...though I'd be willing to bet Ron could pull more than 66% of the GOP if he was viewed as the only possible chance of winning and was the nominee...they might do it kicking and screaming, but they'll take anyone over Obama.

either way, very exciting news, but I'd like to see how a few more straw polls and events play out.

 

[Morgan Brykein]

Unfortunately, the poll also found that Paul has scant support within his own party, which was already pretty obvious. He'll never be nominated, unless we send all the neocon delegates to "summer camp" somewhere in Alaska, which would be a very unlibertarian thing to do.

 

[devil21]

Wow I sure picked a crap day to sleep in!

WSJ blog article
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/...eat-with-obama-in-2012-match-up/tab/comments/

 

[nate895]

Unfortunately, the poll also found that Paul has scant support within his own party, which was already pretty obvious. He'll never be nominated, unless we send all the neocon delegates to "summer camp" somewhere in Alaska, which would be a very unlibertarian thing to do.

That is among people who identify as Republicans. Lots of Independents are really Republicans who don't like the GOP and are unwilling to acknowledge that they are a part of GOP politics. They still vote in the primaries when their candidate is exciting and has a shot. Ron Paul has that ability if he can keep showing up at these straw polls and embarrassing the front-runners.