Donald Trump donated twice to Kamala Harris campaigns from 2011 - 2014

Fair point in that regard, I meant it more in the way that both are utterly polarizing figures and that neither one operated from a purely ideological standpoint.

I wouldn't be so quick to pat Trump on the back when it comes to manufacturing - he's been a mixed bag:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/08/economy/manufacturing-jobs/index.html
"Frankly, Trump is bad for manufacturing. Since he took office, the deficit in goods is up 15%," according to Scott. A trade deficit occurs when a country buys more products then it sells.
Scott says that Trump's trade deals -- the USMCA and the "phase one" deal with China -- fail to address the structural issues that fix long-term trade imbalances, and therefore, help workers.
"His policies haven't helped change anything -- they keep the status quo."
Where new jobs are coming from
Most of the half-million new manufacturing jobs over the past three years are in the Sun Belt or around Silicon Valley. Meanwhile job losses in the Rust Belt are accelerating. That could be key to the 2020 race.
Trump won Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin in 2016, promising working-class voters he would revive US manufacturing. But all four states have lost more than 16,000 factory jobs in the past year alone.
And many new production jobs are non-union with lower pay, according to Pew Research. That translates to the loss of good wages for Americans without a college degree, the majority of which voted Trump into office.

https://www.thefabricator.com/thefa...ators-think-of-the-steel-and-aluminum-tariffs
KH, a metals supplier from Pennsylvania, said, “We are not happy with President Trump’s announcement last week on a broad-brush tariff on steel. We don’t deal in aluminum, but I’m sure it’s the same as steel. We sell mainly stainless steel and ni-based alloys; our customer who are the manufacturers are not happy with the ruling. Their fear is that finished product will be made off shore and brought into the country.

“We have many customers in the fastener industry and others who make cold heading wire, bars, spring wire, wire mesh, wire screens, welding wire, and electrodes; they are all concerned about these steel tariffs. We are looking into the process of filing for exclusions.”

RP, a custom fabricator from Georgia, said, “Very concerned on how it will change our materials pricing and availability. We use black steel, aluminum, and stainless of all grades and in all sizes. If this causes our suppliers to have troubles in obtaining materials, or the quality goes downhill, it will greatly affect our business. And of course, higher prices will drive our customers to “off the shelf” alternatives instead of the custom solutions we offer.”

From personal experience I can tell you that the price of weld wire significantly increased under Trump b/c of the tariffs. Other items as well commonly used in the manufacturing sector. China didn't pay these tariffs, we paid them directly and had no choice but to pass on the cost of the tariff to our customers.

https://reason.com/2020/01/22/trump...ring-just-went-through-a-year-long-recession/
Last week, the Federal Reserve reported that U.S. manufacturing was in a recession for all of 2019. This wasn't slow growth; the sector actually became smaller. The slowdown was relatively mild, with factory production shrinking by about 1.3 percent. But it was the worst performance since 2015, the year that Trump started his presidential campaign. Under Trump, the manufacturing economy has returned to the Obama era.

Manufacturers have a clear culprit in mind for the sector's poor performance. As The Washington Post notes in a report on the Federal Reserve data, the uncertainty and increased costs surrounding Trump's trade war, which was billed as a way of supporting American factory jobs, has instead wreaked havoc on an export-heavy sector that relies on the global flow of goods to operate. Trump's interventions were intended to prop up U.S. manufacturing. But they backfired, harming the people he claimed to help—who also happen to be some of the people who played a crucial part in his election.

And if you don't like those sources, here are others
https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomas...ise-to-revive-u-s-manufacturing/#1c12ed243231
https://markets.businessinsider.com...icts-purpose-tariffs-2019-10-1028577666?op=1#
 
How much would you like to bet?

Donald Trump political contributions:

George Pataki (N.Y.) 1998 $23,500

Federal Contributions, 1989-2010 Republicans $294,000 Democrats $328,600


https://ballotpedia.org/History_of_Donald_Trump's_political_donations

Did you bother reading this thread? I take it you didn't. I concede that Trump gave to both. But Trump gave more to the democrats. And prior to 2011 he gave MUCH more to the democrats. I take it that hyperbole is lost on most of this entire forum.
 
Yes or no question. Do you think Anthony Wiener committed a crime by sexting a 15 year old. Yes or no.

Of course he did.
Trump didn't do that. (I am not defending what Trump said he did but it is not the same, you yourself admitted he probably meant half dressed and Trump did not impose his sexuality on them or solicit a sexual response from them)
 
Of course he did.
Trump didn't do that. (I am not defending what Trump said he did but it is not the same, you yourself admitted he probably meant half dressed and Trump did not impose his sexuality on them or solicit a sexual response from them)

What Wienstein did was illegal only because his target was 15. You said Trump was being a peeping tom. (Your words, not mine). What Trump did would only be illegal because the girls were underage. If they had all been 18 it wouldn't have been a crime. He owned the pageant. There was probably a clause in the contract that said "The owner of the pageant can come in and check out the girls whenever he wants." You don't want to be peeped on, don't get into he pageant. The late Hugh Hefner most likely couldn't have been charged with being a peeping tom for walking in on young women who lived at the Playboy mansion. But if they were 15 he could have been charged.
 
What Wienstein did was illegal only because his target was 15. You said Trump was being a peeping tom. (Your words, not mine). What Trump did would only be illegal because the girls were underage. If they had all been 18 it wouldn't have been a crime. He owned the pageant. There was probably a clause in the contract that said "The owner of the pageant can come in and check out the girls whenever he wants." You don't want to be peeped on, don't get into he pageant. The late Hugh Hefner most likely couldn't have been charged with being a peeping tom for walking in on young women who lived at the Playboy mansion. But if they were 15 he could have been charged.
The fact that what Trump did might be chargeable without a clause in the pageant contract does not make it the same thing as what Wiener did.
Trump did not impose his sexuality on them or solicit a sexual response from them.
 
Kamala Harris' latest statement on racial issues is not that different from various Trump statements on the issue in the past. They appears to have similar views on Naetanyahu/mideast policy too.
 
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