DONALD J. TRUMP, ANTI-GLOBALIST

[Brian4Liberty]

But if that were really the case, then they would have treated him exactly the same way as Ron and Rand.

They have been for the past several weeks, in terms of some smears. They made a tactical error by giving him so much attention in the beginning, mostly for ratings and as a joke. Their problem is that they can effectively smear people who are not well known, but they can't do that to a celebrity like Trump. Everybody already knew him. Very hard to change minds once they already have an opinion of the guy.

 

[undergroundrr]

Neither nationalists nor globalists will fight for my individual rights or anybody else's.

The litmus test is - When running for federal office, once someone starts talking 10th amendment, their arguments become worth considering. Otherwise, they're in it for despotism, profiteering or both.

 

[AuH20]

Neither nationalists nor globalists will fight for my individual rights or anybody else's.

The litmus test is - When running for federal office, once someone starts talking 10th amendment, their arguments become worth considering. Otherwise, they're in it for despotism, profiteering or both.

David Knight stated this exactly, when he just endorsed Trump.

 

[invisible]

They have been for the past several weeks, in terms of some smears. They made a tactical error by giving him so much attention in the beginning, mostly for ratings and as a joke. Their problem is that they can effectively smear people who are not well known, but they can't do that to a celebrity like Trump. Everybody already knew him. Very hard to change minds once they already have an opinion of the guy.

They knew exactly what they were doing. It would have been effective if repeated often and early enough. If what you say is true, then why was that not the case for Rand, who was getting plenty of media coverage before he was blacked out shortly after announcing? Celebrity status has nothing to do with it. Totally different treatment by the media is what we're talking about, here.

 

[acptulsa]

Mel has not yet announced his candidacy for leader of the unfree world.

We already knew you could duck a question. And we're still waiting to see if you can answer one.

They have been for the past several weeks, in terms of some smears. They made a tactical error by giving him so much attention in the beginning, mostly for ratings and as a joke. Their problem is that they can effectively smear people who are not well known, but they can't do that to a celebrity like Trump. Everybody already knew him. Very hard to change minds once they already have an opinion of the guy.

1. If every poll says that the majority of the country doesn't trust you, do you give your man a straightforward endorsement (even if he asks you not to), or do you use reverse psychology and pretend to hate him?

2. Why are you telling us what was a tactical error, what was done for ratings, and what was a joke? Have a scintilla of proof of any of that?

3. Everyone already knew that Trump was a ruthless, politically connected globalist, yet they have convinced us otherwise. They don't seem to be having any trouble changing people's minds about him. They seem to have changed your mind about him. What makes you think they're incapable of it?

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Explain it, Brian. Why is Trump not He Who Must Not Be Named?

And don't tell me he's too famous to fail. When was the last time you heard about Mel Gibson? Was Trump more famous than Mel Gibson?

Explain it. I did. He's getting media coverage because he's a globalist. His media coverage is saying otherwise for the same reason he is--that's what the electorate demands this year. But he's getting coverage because he's a globalist.

Your explanation flies in the face of the facts we know--that Trump has a long history of advocating globalization, and that anti-globalists Must Not Be Named. Can you fix it? Are you allowed to admit it doesn't work?

Did I say that Trump isn't a globalist? I only hear that from his supporters. I never hear it from the media (not that I am all knowing of what is said in the media, but I haven't really heard that). An autocrat dictator can be a globalist.

As far as other celebrities, Trump had a reality TV show. People come to think they actually know the person. Many actors and sports figures are very private. No one knows anything about them other than when they do their jobs. People believe they know Kim Kardashian, just like they believe they know Trump.

 

[acptulsa]

Did I say that Trump isn't a globalist?

Have you ever once heard the media say he is? They could, just as I did, and they could make it stick, just as I did. His whole appeal is that he's pretending not to be a globalist. Therefore, shooting him down would be e easiest thing in the world for them to do. They could do it today, the day before Super Tuesday, and sink his candidacy right to the bottom. Is that what they're doing? Or are they just expressing their displeasure, as if their decades of lies haven't left us reveling in their displeasure?

As far as other celebrities, Trump had a reality TV show. People come to think they actually know the person.

They know he's an asshole. They know they desperately want him to be an asshole on their side. And they know the media isn't telling them otherwise. Despite the fact that we both know what the truth is. Furthermore, instead of contradicting him, they continue to give him free air time 24/7 in which to repeat his lies.

Now. Tell me again how the media's behavior is not calculated to prop him up.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

1. If every poll says that the majority of the country doesn't trust you, do you give your man a straightforward endorsement (even if he asks you not to), or do you use reverse psychology and pretend to hate him?

Did they pretend to hate Hillary and Rubio, who they obviously love?

As for endorsements, ask that question of David Duke. His endorsement is pure poison. Why doesn't he endorse who he secretly hates?

2. Why are you telling us what was a tactical error, what was done for ratings, and what was a joke? Have a scintilla of proof of any of that?

Where's your proof for any of your opinions? The debates were the highest rated debates of all time. They loved covering them, especially when they thought Trump was a joke who could be easily defeated. They turned negative on Trump fairly quickly, but that didn't work, based on the "proof" of election results so far.

3. Everyone already knew that Trump was a ruthless, politically connected globalist, yet they have convinced us otherwise. They don't seem to be having any trouble changing people's minds about him. They seem to have changed your mind about him. What makes you think they're incapable of it?

My mind hasn't changed. I watched his show, so nothing that is happening right now is a surprise. Trump is all about personal smears, attacks and underhanded tactics. The truth is unimportant. It's only about winning. Say anything, do anything to win. Ruthless is one way to say it. A loudmouthed, rude, immature a-hole is another way to put it.

I was probably the first person on this forum to say that Trump's supposedly "anti-immigration" stance is fake. He loves his cheap labor. I've said it since day one.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Posted in July 2015:

Trump is not sincere. He is a crony corporatist who has taken advantage of cheap labor, often illegal. He is just playing on emotions, and making collectivist generalizations at the most boorish level. In the end, he is all tough talk, and that is what he promises. He will talk tough and drive better deals with other nations. What he is not saying is that he would continue the status quo. He will be a crony corporatist globalist, but he'll just be "tougher". Sure, everything works better with a dictator.

 

[acptulsa]

Did they pretend to hate Hillary and Rubio, who they obviously love?

Is the media helping either of them win by admitting their affection? Did either of them decide to run the sort of campaign that would be helped by the media's vilification?

As for endorsements, ask that question of David Duke. His endorsement is pure poison. Why doesn't he endorse who he secretly hates?

Who does he secretly hate? Been reading his mind? Maybe he's smarter than you, and full well realizes that Trump is really a globalist. If he knows Trump is a globalist, and really does hate globalists, why wouldn't he offer this globalist his pure poison?

Where's your proof for any of your opinions? The debates were the highest rated debates of all time. They loved covering them, especially when they thought Trump was a joke who could be easily defeated. They turned negative on Trump fairly quickly, but that didn't work, based on the "proof" of election results so far.

Where's your proof? I have posted--with no small amount of help from AuH-twenty, strangely enough--that if Trump isn't a globalist, then he flip flopped. I have otherwise merely raised valid questions, like why isn't this guy getting the Ron Paul treatment, and disproving those answers that don't hold water. Since neither side can prove much of anything, why should I shut up until I get proof while the Trumpspammers continue unchecked?

My mind hasn't changed. I watched his show, so nothing that is happening right now is a surprise. Trump is all about personal smears, attacks and underhanded tactics. The truth is unimportant. It's only about winning. Say anything, do anything to win. Ruthless is one way to say it. A loudmouthed, rude, immature a-hole is another way to put it.

And the media is somehow above considering the truth unimportant, and winning the only justification? And the media is somehow unable to figure out that they aren't trusted, and that globalization is currently unpopular? And my theory is disproven by the fact of Trump's ruthlessness?

I was probably the first person on this forum to say that Trump's supposedly "anti-immigration" stance is fake. He loves his cheap labor. I've said it since day one.

Good for you. So what makes this dog-and-pony show real?

 

[Brian4Liberty]

So what makes this dog-and-pony show real?

I don't agree with your conspiracy hypothesis that this a grand experiment by the media in reverse psychology. Sorry if that critique is hard to accept.

 

[acptulsa]

I don't agree with your conspiracy hypothesis that this a grand experiment by the media in reverse psychology. Sorry if that critique is hard to accept.

Why would it be hard to accept? You don't agree with it, but you haven't poked a single hole in it. Whereas the theory you seem to subscribe to is leaking water like a colander.

I'm not having a bit of trouble accepting that.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Why would it be hard to accept? You don't agree with it, but you haven't poked a single hole in it. Whereas the theory you seem to subscribe to is leaking water like a colander.

I'm not having a bit of trouble accepting that.

What theory do I subscribe to exactly, which is "leaking water like a colander"?

As far as your conspiracy hypothesis, the burden of proof is on the person proposing the hypothesis.

 

[acptulsa]

Then why aren't you proving that the media is giving Trump nonstop 24/7 free publicity because they hate him?

The Unified Media is once again leading American Conservatives by their noses and causing them to ratfuck themselves right out of the White House. And there's nothing we can do to stop it. But if we are telling American Conservatives what is being done to them and how, in real time, before it comes to pass, then our prognostication prowess will achieve additional legendary status, and we can use that to further loosen the media's grip on the American psyche in the future.

You can join me sooner, you can join me later, or you can abandon the cause of liberty.

Trump is being sold to Republicans for the same reason McCain and Romney were--because we have always traveled down the road to socialism faster during Democratic administrations, and because it takes nothing less than a game like this to keep the White House in Democratic hands after eight years of abject Democratic failure.

And you just can't poke any holes in that theory.

 

[acptulsa]

McCain was sold to Republicans because he could not win. Romney was sold to us because he could not win. Trump is being sold to us because he cannot win.



Republicans can.

 

[seapilot]

its hard to say, he changes his mind on a lot of things pretty often.

One of the few consistent ideas he talked about is taxing other countries for security. He has been saying that for over 25 years. Global trade and Global government are two different things. To me a globalist is a person that prefers no nation states, and a one world government. I am still looking for Trump saying he favors world government over a powerful national government.

 

[Son_of_Liberty90]

Acptulsa, it's really hard to "prove" anything with cases like these unless you are an insider. The best you can do is offer up "evidence" favoring a hypothesis. So far, you have offered more evidence in favor of your hypothesis.

 

[acptulsa]

One of the few consistent ideas he talked about is taxing other countries for security. He has been saying that for over 25 years. Global trade and Global government are two different things. To me a globalist is a person that prefers no nation states, and a one world government. I am still looking for Trump saying he favors world government over a powerful national government.

There are two ways one government can force another government to 'pay tribute'. One is through war. The other is by appealing to some entity which both of those governments must answer to.

Neither qualifies as an anti-globalist method. Neither is anything Monroe would have approved of.

Acptulsa, it's really hard to "prove" anything with cases like these unless you are an insider. The best you can do is offer up "evidence" favoring a hypothesis. So far, you have offered more evidence in favor of your hypothesis.

Thank you! I thought I made a fairly strong case.

 

[acptulsa]

We have to go see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what's happening. We have to talk to them, maybe in certain areas, closing that Internet up in some way. Somebody will say, 'Oh, freedom of speech, freedom of speech.' These are foolish people. We have a lot of foolish people. --Donald Trump