DONALD J. TRUMP, ANTI-GLOBALIST

[acptulsa]

Yes, I do hear him adapting an America-First tone while explaining how America can pursue globalist policies without losing its shirt. What I don't hear is him stating the rather obvious fact that the easiest way for a nation to avoid losing its shirt pursuing globalist policies is for that nation to stop pursuing globalist policies.

 

[liveandletlive]

its hard to say, he changes his mind on a lot of things pretty often.

 

[acptulsa]

its hard to say, he changes his mind on a lot of things pretty often.

Well, there you go. Then by all means let us offer proof of his love for managed globalization as proof that he has flip flopped, and is no longer for managed globalization.

But then how do we prove he won't flip again--on, say, the first Wednesday in November?

 

[William Tell]

Asking our allies for our rightful share has always been a master stroke of brilliance since it exhibits the insanity of the system.

Lolwut

 

[Origanalist]

Lolwut

Don't stop him, he's on a roll.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

No wonder the media is spamming their b.s. narrative so hard.

Do you think that the media and establishment really supports Trump? A grand charade?

IMHO, the odds of that are pretty low. While there is no doubt that the mainstream media represents the establishment's propaganda arm, it's doubtful they could control themselves in order to maintain that type of deception. Much easier for them to just let their shared and dictated hate flow.

It's more about a crony corporatist, establishment oligarchy that wants to protect their power from a hostile takeover by a potential autocrat. Similar to when a large corporation faces a hostile takeover from an outside corporate raider. They will do anything to prevent that.

 

[AuH20]

Lolwut

Read the rest of the sentence.

 

[AuH20]

It's more about a crony corporatist, establishment oligarchy that wants to protect their power from a hostile takeover by a potential autocrat. Similar to when a large corporation faces a hostile takeover from an outside corporate raider. They will do anything to prevent that.

exactly.

 

[invisible]

Do you think that the media and establishment really supports Trump? A grand charade?

IMHO, the odds of that are pretty low. While there is no doubt that the mainstream media represents the establishment's propaganda arm, it's doubtful they could control themselves in order to maintain that type of deception. Much easier for them to just let their shared and dictated hate flow.

It's more about a crony corporatist, establishment oligarchy that wants to protect their power from a hostile takeover by a potential autocrat. Similar to when a large corporation faces a hostile takeover from an outside corporate raider. They will do anything to prevent that.

But if that were really the case, then they would have treated him exactly the same way as Ron and Rand.

 

[AuH20]

But if that were really the case, then they would have treated him exactly the same way as Ron and Rand.

No. Ron and Rand are low key individuals that do not count as a nationally known celebrity. Trump amplified the media attention when he started spouting off about Mexicans and Muslims in crude fashion. His big jump in the polls happened immediately after he made his Mexicans comments and the media tried to crucify him in the court of public opinion. The rest has been history from that point on.

 

[openfire]

But if that were really the case, then they would have treated him exactly the same way as Ron and Rand.

Except what worked with Rand and Ron won't work with Trump.

 

[acptulsa]

But if that were really the case, then they would have treated him exactly the same way as Ron and Rand.

Explain it, Brian. Why is Trump not He Who Must Not Be Named?

And don't tell me he's too famous to fail. When was the last time you heard about Mel Gibson? Was Trump more famous than Mel Gibson?

Explain it. I did. He's getting media coverage because he's a globalist. His media coverage is saying otherwise for the same reason he is--that's what the electorate demands this year. But he's getting coverage because he's a globalist.

Your explanation flies in the face of the facts we know--that Trump has a long history of advocating globalization, and that anti-globalists Must Not Be Named. Can you fix it? Are you allowed to admit it doesn't work?

No. Ron and Rand are low key individuals that do not count as a nationally known celebrity. Trump amplified the media attention when he started spouting off about Mexicans and Muslims in crude fashion. His big jump in the polls happened immediately after he made his Mexicans comments and the media tried to crucify him in the court of public opinion. The rest has been history from that point on.

Except what worked with Rand and Ron won't work with Trump.

It worked on Mel Gibson. It's working on Mel Gibson to this day. And he was more famous than Trump.

So, we know it works on politicians, and we know it works on celebrities. Now you are going to say it works on politicians and it works on celebrities, but it doesn't work on celebrities-turned-politicians. And you aren't even going to try to put forth one solid, logical reason why not.

*yawn*

 

[invisible]

No. Ron and Rand are low key individuals that do not count as a nationally known celebrity. Trump amplified the media attention when he started spouting off about Mexicans and Muslims in crude fashion. His big jump in the polls happened immediately after he made his Mexicans comments and the media tried to crucify him in the court of public opinion. The rest has been history from that point on.

That makes no difference, using the same playbook would have been just have effective.

 

[AuH20]

Except what worked with Rand and Ron won't work with Trump.

True. Rand and Ron were never featured in a successful major network television program for 14 years. They have never been featured in a myriad of commercials. They don't own a successful global brand like Trump has cultivated. Trump is a part of pop culture, like it or not. He creates buzz.

 

[AuH20]

That makes no difference, using the same playbook would have been just have effective.

Not when your target is an ostentatious businessman that thrives on conflict & getting the last word in. They tried to punish and shame him after the Mexican comments, largely because 99% of the time the target succumbs to the wrath of the gatekeepers. Instead Trump didn't back down, but actually doubled down. 5 billion dollars affords one more freedom than your average schmuck to defy the ministry of truth.

 

[acptulsa]

True. Rand and Ron were never featured in a successful major network television program for 14 years. They have never been featured in a myriad of commercials. They don't own a successful global brand like Trump has cultivated. Trump is a part of pop culture, like it or not. He creates buzz.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000154/

Not when your target is an ostentatious businessman that thrives on conflict & getting the last word in. They tried to punish and shame him after the Mexican comments, largely because 99% of the time the target the succumbs to the wrath of the gatekeepers.

Ron Paul always got the last word in. But when the microphone has been turned off before the last word is spoken, few people notice.

So, your excuse does not work. Got another one?

You act like Trump somehow got famous without the media's collusion. You act like NBC wasn't lying when they said they fired him because they were mad at him, even though they could legally not have let him continue his show during his campaign without giving every single candidate in the race. You act like I'm rude for calling b.s. on all this b.s.

 

[AuH20]

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000154/

If Mel ran, I'd vote for him, but he never announced his candidacy. His playboy interview is very revealing.

 

[invisible]

True. Rand and Ron were never featured in a successful major network television program for 14 years. They have never been featured in a myriad of commercials. They don't own a successful global brand like Trump has cultivated. Trump is a part of pop culture, like it or not. He creates buzz.

Not true. We were never told repeatedly that "he can't win", his supporters were never incessantly mocked, he wasn't repeatedly called "crazy", a "kook", or a "conspiracy theorist", and he was never subjected to a media blackout. Those things certainly could have been done, regardless of celebrity status.

 

[acptulsa]

If Mel ran, I'd vote for him, but he never announced his candidacy. His playboy interview is very revealing.

We already knew you could duck a question. We're still wondering if you can answer one.

 

[AuH20]

We already knew you could duck a question. We're still wondering if you can answer one.

Mel has not yet announced his candidacy for leader of the unfree world.