Don...Questions about C4L Please.

[ARealConservative]

YES

YES

YES

I had already posted TWICE that I thought it was a fair question. Geesh.

But the C4L does not live here. They have their own site. So, if you want to increase your likelihood of getting an answer, it would behoove you to go ask them.

Don sure wasted no time to rush over here and place this feud in the publics eye......

 

[torchbearer]

DId I mention representatives from the 3rd parties in Louisiana, along with Dems, Reps, and Indies are coming together Sept 20th to unify behind this ticket?

 

[Bradley in DC]

Don sure wasted no time to rush over here and place this feud in the publics eye......

He and Greenspan ARE good at creating shitstorms...if only those won elections.

 

[pauletteNV]

Rather than nitpick like you do

1) lol, the sock puppet...

we've gone over projection here before...

Nope, at least not for criticism.. I do have another name, but i use that one more for policy advocacy than anything else.

I know you like to come out and cover his (Jeff Greenspan, that is) ass though, i've checked your posting history, but it's whatever to me.

Do you post under another screenname too?

2) I am certain about my facts, so thanks.

3) "Rambling on?" What's that supposed to mean?

Just another cheap shot perhaps? I've come to expect no less of your ilk.



What question? He asked if there was a way to get in touch w/ the folks through the message board. I answered his question per the FACT that they are all available through this site as well, ronpaulforums.com, even if they like to sneak around about it.



Where is the place to get an answer?

and don't tell me their site, b/c if you believe that you're either full of hot air, benefiting financially (posturing to?) or willfully ignorant.

my guess is a combination of all the above.



cue "The Neverending Story" theme song



Yea Paulette, please do. You can start by clicking the link I provided Tones earlier.

Anything you could do to wrestle an apology out of your buddy for his actions here, including efforts to undermine the forum community, and a full explanation for his purpose in doing so would be appreciated.

Short of that, I will continue airing my displeasure when and if i find it appropriate to do so.

Mods and Admins have an open invitation to ban my account at anytime of their choosing.

k?thnx

I'll just say that I am not a disruptor, nor a troll, but a supporter of Ron Paul and his message. Ron Paul supports C4L and considers it a necessary step in the R3volution, and (oh silly me), I believe him. When I see people like the Muths of the world attack people without warrant, I try to speak up for them. Just my nature. Jeff Greenspan I met at the NV Convention for a brief comment, but I do not know him personally. I would do the same for you Constituent if I found you in the right. Sure appreciate your taking all that time to go through and answer each segment of my post. I feel priviledged

Tones, I do truly understand your having questions. Since the new site will be up and running the first of October, I would expect many of your questions will be answered at that time. All of this fault-seeking is almost like we are looking for a way to assuage our disappointment in the Convention. Looking back, we have learned a great deal and now we must, imo, move on.

 

[ARealConservative]

He and Greenspan ARE good at creating shitstorms...if only those won elections.

I have learned my lesson.

I ran as far and as fast away from the C4L as I could when this story broke.

 

[Sandra]

Tone, kinda sounds like your mind os made on the C4L. Make sure you don't sound antagonistic if you are indeed asking them a question, or you will be ignored. It's your ball.

 

[pauletteNV]

Good point

Tone, kinda sounds like your mind os made on the C4L. Make sure you don't sound antagonistic if you are indeed asking them a question, or you will be ignored. It's your ball.

What's the old saying about the use of honey? Sandra, how's your weather been? Any fears your way due to Ike's arrival soon?

 

[Don]

My apologies for not spending more time on RPF looking for mentions of my name to respond to. That said, I am an open book.

I make about $800/wk after taxes or, given the hours, about $10/ hour. Considering that I have 2 degrees, 20 years of political experience and have to pay rent in D.C., this is a pittance and I eat a lot t.v. dinners (whichever are on sale). That said, there is no where in the world I would rather be.

I have no idea what the other staffers make, nor do I care.

As far as decision-making, all important decisions are vetted through Dr. Paul. Day-to-day operations are run by John Tate.

As far as responding to Verney, why? All he has is an unsubstantiated claim. We want to move on and get back to the serious business of building an organization that can advance the freedom movement, not engage in tit-for-tat with the Barr campaign.

On a general note about public relations, the more you add fuel to a fire, the longer it burns. I think people are smart enough to make up their own minds.

 

[constituent]

Sure appreciate your taking all that time to go through and answer each segment of my post. I feel priviledged

No problem, you said your peace, aired your concerns and were deserving of a response.

i like you paulette, don't let my sometime antagonistic tone lead you to feel otherwise.


sticking up for those you consider to be your friends is an admirable trait, even if i'm no fan of your friends, and i applaud you for it.

 

[Sandra]

What's the old saying about the use of honey? Sandra, how's your weather been? Any fears your way due to Ike's arrival soon?

Paulette, the wind is BAAADDD! We are already having gusts up to 40 mph and are expecting them in the 50's tonight. I can deal with some flooding because our house is raised but not the wind!

 

[ARealConservative]

My apologies for not spending more time on RPF looking for mentions of my name to respond to. That said, I am an open book.

I make about $800/wk after taxes or, given the hours, about $10/ hour. Considering that I have 2 degrees, 20 years of political experience and have to pay rent in D.C., this is a pittance and I eat a lot t.v. dinners (whichever are on sale).

I have no idea what the other staffers make, nor do I care.

As far as decision-making, all important decisions are vetted through Dr. Paul. Day-to-day operations are run by John Tate.

As far as responding to Verney, why? All he has is an unsubstantiated claim. We want to move on and get back to the serious business of building an organization that can advance the freedom movement, not engage in tit-for-tat with the Barr campaign.

On a general note about public relations, the more you add fuel to a fire, the longer it burns. I think people are smart enough to make up their own minds.

On real general note, Barr is running for a national office now based on the freedom movement, the C4L is just another foundation looking to the future.

You broke this tit for tat wide open and now pretend this isn’t what you wanted? Please, nobody is stupid enough to buy this!

Let’s start with a real simple question. How is it possible that Ron Paul opened the press conference acting unaware that Barr would not be showing up? You can print out fliers quicker then you can inform your boss of this major change in development? Explain this one first and our smart people can decide for themselves which story is more believable.

 

[constituent]

My apologies for not spending more time on RPF looking for mentions of my name to respond to. That said, I am an open book.

google can take care of that for ya.

I make about $800/wk after taxes or, given the hours, about $10/ hour.

I've taken issue w/ you over the content of your posts in the past, but believe you have really come a long way in terms of "you attitude" over the past month or so, and am comfortable saying that you've become an asset to the cfl.

which makes 10/hr. a crying shame.

your efforts are appreciated though. i know words alone don't keep the lights from getting cut off, but it's what i've got.

thanks

 

[pauletteNV]

Absolutely no need to apologize

Don,
No need for apologies, I'm sure you have other work to do. If it were up to me, you'd get a raise - no one should have to exist on tv-dinners. Interesting how we can make sacrifices in order to do something we love and believe in. You are obviously giving of your time and efforts way beyond your pay scale. Thank you for your loyalty and service to Dr. Paul, the C4L, and all of us.

 

[pauletteNV]

As a resident of Nevada

Paulette, the wind is BAAADDD! We are already having gusts up to 40 mph and are expecting them in the 50's tonight. I can deal with some flooding because our house is raised but not the wind!

We know all about wind...but to deal with a major storm and possible flooding, etc. Yikes, thinking positive for you and everyone in the southern states. Wind has always scared me. As a kid I was babysitting at a neighbors and the wind came up and as I looked out this huge picture window a 50 foot pine tree came crashing down towards me...within about a foot of hitting the window where I stood - frozen. Moral of the story...stay away from windows in a wind storm. Guess that is the source of my fear.

You and all patriots in affected areas take good care and know we are all wishing this storm a lessening of strength and a quick demise.

 

[BigFatRock]

You broke this tit for tat wide open and now pretend this isn’t what you wanted? Please, nobody is stupid enough to buy this!

So, you would prefer that the inevitable question of "why isn't Barr at the press conference" be left completely unanswered and ignored? The only thing Don did was explain why he wasn't there and the reactions of Barr's staff when he questioned them about it.

How is it possible that Ron Paul opened the press conference acting unaware that Barr would not be showing up? You can print out fliers quicker then you can inform your boss of this major change in development?

Maybe because Ron has demonstrated that he likes to think the best about people? Maybe he wasn't "acting" like he was unaware, but maybe he was hoping that Barr would change his mind and keep his word?

 

[Matt Collins]

I eat a lot t.v. dinners (whichever are on sale).

I like a lot of the Boston Market and Marie Callander brands. They rock!

 

[Don]

Another important general rule of public relations is always get your story out first so the other party has to respond to your narrative instead of being put on the defensive and ceding ground from the start.

A final good general rule is never attack down. Always save your powder for the guy ahead of you. Just ask Rudy Guiliani about that.

 

[constituent]

A final good general rule is never attack down. Always save your powder for the guy ahead of you.

ahhhh yes,

politics

 

[acptulsa]

Another important general rule of public relations is always get your story out first so the other party has to respond to your narrative instead of being put on the defensive and ceding ground from the start.

A final good general rule is never attack down. Always save your powder for the guy ahead of you. Just ask Rudy Guiliani about that.

Ain't politics wonderful? Thanks for bothering to come and speak with us, Don. The Barr campaign seems to lack that much respect for us.

Will the C4L be posting all their relevant financials on the site at some point? Seems a not imprudent thing to do...

 

[Sandra]

PauletteNV, I think Galveston is in for it bad.