Doctors advised woman to abort her 'severely brain damaged' daughter, born perfectly healthy

[MelissaWV]

Any physician that advised an abortion based on the potential for a child to be born "severely brain damaged" after one scan would no longer be my physician.

 

[Christian Liberty]

Are Dr.'s not entitled to free speech?

Yes. But if a woman took her disabled child (Down's Syndrome, Austism, whatever) to a doctor for help, and the doctor told her to kill the child, is that really "free speech"?

When acting in an official capacity like this, I don't think so. Maybe I'm wrong. If this child ever finds out about what those doctors told the mother to do, and he decided to take vengeance, I would vote to acquit him.

 

[tod evans]

Yes. But if a woman took her disabled child (Down's Syndrome, Austism, whatever) to a doctor for help, and the doctor told her to kill the child, is that really "free speech"?

When acting in an official capacity like this, I don't think so. Maybe I'm wrong. If this child ever finds out about what those doctors told the mother to do, and he decided to take vengeance, I would vote to acquit him.

Dr.'s act in a professional capacity, quite a difference from an "official" one.

And This particular Dr. spoke, he didn't act.

 

[Christian Liberty]

Dr.'s act in a professional capacity, quite a difference from an "official" one.

Valid point.

And This particular Dr. spoke, he didn't act.

If a woman brought her down syndrome child to a doctor, and the doctor said "Oh, you should just kill them" as serious medical advise, should there be no sanctions for that?

Whatever you'd advocate for that, I think would work here.

 

[tod evans]

If a woman brought her down syndrome child to a doctor, and the doctor said "Oh, you should just kill them" as serious medical advise, should there be no sanctions for that?

In the current system such illogical advice is actionable through the AMA.

There's no sense in discussing what might be in another "system"..

 

[Christian Liberty]

In the current system such illogical advice is actionable through the AMA.

There's no sense in discussing what might be in another "system"..

Then advocating a brain damaged baby in the womb be murdered should also be actionable.

 

[tod evans]

Then advocating a brain damaged baby in the womb be murdered should also be actionable.

Advocating or advising?

In any legal arena this is a tipping point.


I strongly advocate disemboweling politicians who I feel have introduced legislation I disagree with.

I advocate for the public execution of prosecutors who overcharge or manipulate "the law".

But I have enough sense (barely:o) to not advise anyone to undertake these actions.

 

[VIDEODROME]

Advocating or advising?

In any legal arena this is a tipping point.


I strongly advocate disemboweling politicians who I feel have introduced legislation I disagree with.

I advocate for the public execution of prosecutors who overcharge or manipulate "the law".

But I have enough sense (barely:o) to not advise anyone to undertake these actions.

Nah. I recommend the Politician Human Centipede.

 

[tod evans]

Nah. I recommend the Politician Human Centipede.

Don't the puppeteers strings get in the way?

 

[FSU63]

What's the problem with this? The doctors merely made a suggestion and their mistake was obviously accidental. I believe a lot of people are out to "get" the citizens, but not doctors.

Of course some whackjobs are going to think that some random doctors care so much about you that they specifically want to make you a slave and force you into an abortion. No. They probably saw scans that made them actually believe that the child would have severe brain damage. They made a suggestion, the parents declined, and the mother gave birth.

What's the problem?

 

[FSU63]

Thos doctors should be executed for encouraging a woman to murder her child.

Pro-Life




Wants to execute people

You don't see the hypocrisy?

 

[eduardo89]

Pro-Life

Wants to execute people

You don't see the hypocrisy?

No. There is none.

 

[Christian Liberty]

Pro-Life




Wants to execute people

You don't see the hypocrisy?

Quote me on where I used the term "Pro-life" anywhere in my post.

I support the execution of murderers and I support innocent people being protected. Call that whatever the heck you want.

Advocating or advising?

In any legal arena this is a tipping point.


I strongly advocate disemboweling politicians who I feel have introduced legislation I disagree with.

I advocate for the public execution of prosecutors who overcharge or manipulate "the law".

But I have enough sense (barely:o) to not advise anyone to undertake these actions.

Advising, in this case.

What's the problem with this? The doctors merely made a suggestion and their mistake was obviously accidental. I believe a lot of people are out to "get" the citizens, but not doctors.

Of course some whackjobs are going to think that some random doctors care so much about you that they specifically want to make you a slave and force you into an abortion. No. They probably saw scans that made them actually believe that the child would have severe brain damage. They made a suggestion, the parents declined, and the mother gave birth.

What's the problem?

Some grand conspiracy isn't the point. This is a simple case of a medical professional seeing a mother who's child may have (Did not, in fact) had brain damage, and the doctor's suggestion was to murder the child.

Had the doctor been correct, my response would not have changed.

 

[Christian Liberty]

No. There is none.

The terms "Pro-life" and "Pro-choice" are both propaganda words, I don't really like either of them. I'm "pro-choice" on almost everything, but abortion/murder, are exceptions. I'm "pro-life" for almost every human, but I advocate the execution of murderers and I see nothing wrong with hunting animals for food or sport. So, taking the meanings of the words at face value, I am both "pro-life" and "pro-choice" in most situations, but not all. In some cases I am anti-life and anti-choice.

And honestly, the same would hold true for most people, as bizarre as that sounds at first glance.

Restricting the terms solely to abortion I am pro-life and not pro-choice, but there are some circumstances I do not oppose killing.

 

[FSU63]

Well, I'm probably in the 0.000001% here, but I believe it's a woman's right to do what she wants with her own body.

 

[eduardo89]

Well, I'm probably in the 0.000001% here, but I believe it's a woman's right to do what she wants with her own body.

I completely agree, but she has no right to murder her child. She has no right to pay an abortionist to rip her baby's body apart limb by limb and then have his brains suctioned out.

 

[FSU63]

I completely agree, but she has no right to murder her child. She has no right to pay an abortionist to rip her baby's body apart limb by limb and then have his brains suctioned out.

When the baby is no longer wanted, it becomes a trespasser, a parasite, that needs to be dealt with. I don't believe that fetuses have rights until they're born. Even if they did, I think those rights don't matter when the baby violates the mother's "property" rights (as a woman's body IS her property).

 

[heavenlyboy34]

The terms "Pro-life" and "Pro-choice" are both propaganda words, I don't really like either of them. I'm "pro-choice" on almost everything, but abortion/murder, are exceptions. I'm "pro-life" for almost every human, but I advocate the execution of murderers and I see nothing wrong with hunting animals for food or sport. So, taking the meanings of the words at face value, I am both "pro-life" and "pro-choice" in most situations, but not all. In some cases I am anti-life and anti-choice.

And honestly, the same would hold true for most people, as bizarre as that sounds at first glance.

Restricting the terms solely to abortion I am pro-life and not pro-choice, but there are some circumstances I do not oppose killing.

This is a good point. I find "pro-choice" to be more problematic than "pro-life" though. It's deliberately vague-who doesn't want freedom of choice? It may be cliche, but "pro-death" is a more accurate phrase IMO.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

When the baby is no longer wanted, it becomes a trespasser, a parasite, that needs to be dealt with. I don't believe that fetuses have rights until they're born. Even if they did, I think those rights don't matter when the baby violates the mother's "property" rights (as a woman's body IS her property).

If someone hurts a pregnant woman in such a way that causes her to miscarry (in any trimester), has a murder occurred to you?

Think of it this way-a mother's body may be her property, but her womb is not-that is the child's property.

 

[RJB]

When the baby is no longer wanted, it becomes a trespasser, a parasite, that needs to be dealt with. I don't believe that fetuses have rights until they're born. Even if they did, I think those rights don't matter when the baby violates the mother's "property" rights (as a woman's body IS her property).

That bolded area is flat out insanity! You are acknowledging that is a life.

I can understand this if you aren't a parent. When parents make this statement, when you can feel the soul of the child in your heart, I truly worry about our society. Caring for and loving the younger generation should be such an ingrained instinct.

And not that it matters, I'm against the current wars and the death penalty. I only believe killing is justified for clear self defense.