Gary Johnson Disturbing Video of Gary Johnson's Views on Iraq

[johnrocks]

Promoting needless and murderous wars is a gigantic deal.

I will side with a peaceful socialist before I side with GJ.

Then have at it but my Brother is and was a resident of New Mexico when Johnson was Governor; he has a pretty damn good track record, he endorsed Ron Paul in 08 and he's been on record as being opposed to Iraq, Afghanistan and now Libya. Is he perfect;hell no; but he's far better than anyone else besides Ron Paul and he;along with Rand Paul; has something RP lacks and that's a sense of pragmatism that brings together people that would not even consider Ron Paul, I've seen RP supporters to Obama supporters to ;yes; Bush supporters; already expressing interest and support in Johnson and that type broad appeal is ;like it or not; what it takes to win State and National races.

Again, he won't be getting my vote if RP runs but he will if RP doesn't and that I can swear to if I'm alive and able on election day.

 

[MaxPower]

I desperately hope Johnson withdraws from the race before the primaries.

 

[sailingaway]

Then have at it but my Brother is and was a resident of New Mexico when Johnson was Governor; he has a pretty damn good track record, he endorsed Ron Paul in 08 and he's been on record as being opposed to Iraq, Afghanistan and now Libya. Is he perfect;hell no; but he's far better than anyone else besides Ron Paul and he;along with Rand Paul; has something RP lacks and that's a sense of pragmatism that brings together people that would not even consider Ron Paul, I've seen RP supporters to Obama supporters to ;yes; Bush supporters; already expressing interest and support in Johnson and that type broad appeal is ;like it or not; what it takes to win State and National races.

Again, he won't be getting my vote if RP runs but he will if RP doesn't and that I can swear to if I'm alive and able on election day.

He gets non Paul supporters because he clearly isn't one of us, maybe. Many people are more comfortable with a squish. His record as I understand it was pretty purely economic, and with 'fudge room' in his foreign policy views, and his support (at least until most recently) of corporatist internationalist arrangements such as NAFTA, I am unlikely to be attracted to him. I tried to like him at one time and was mildly turned off. Now that I have seen him in more videos, I am more turned off. I thought the big deal was in part that he would be a better speaker than Ron, but he's awful, and doesn't stand up to pressure.

 

[klamath]

GJ is getting weaker and weaker on foreign policy. That showed no backbone at all. Obama was a lot stronger against the wars than this GJ guy yet look what he did. There seriously would be no change if this guy was elected in our foreign policy.
Yeaw I've seen the posters on RP articles saying "If you like RP you will love GJ". Yeaw they're not trying to pull RP voters

 

[johnrocks]

I wouldn't vote for Gary Johnson, I don't trust him on issues I find important. So to me he is just another opponent of Ron's. People keep saying 'they are so much alike', but when I look at them I don't see that.

We'll just have to agree to disagree then, he's not his clone but he's the closest thing to him that is running;imho.

 

[Wren]

I desperately hope Johnson withdraws from the race before the primaries.

I find it offensive that he even joined the race to begin with when it was known that RP was giving out numerous hints that he himself intended to run. Sure, it's his right to run for president if he wants to, but if really cares about what we've been doing for these past couple of years, why would he?

 

[sailingaway]

We'll just have to agree to disagree then, .

that works

 

[AGRP]

My only question is whether Gary is a willing participant in this.

Of course he is.

He cant be so knowledgeable about liberty and then foolishly claim blow-back doesn't exist.

Look at :26-30. His face and voice has liar all over it. The shifting of his eyes, the sheepish voice, and the tilting of his head. It looked like he was about to dart for the nearest exit.

 

[johnrocks]

He gets non Paul supporters because he clearly isn't one of us, maybe.

And in a National race it takes more than just us bro, look; I'm not trying to start a feud here; I was fortunate enough to live here in Louisiana in November 08 and Ron Paul/Barry Goldwater Jr. was on the ballot and I voted for them and swear on my dearly departed Dad's good name that I'll be voting for him again if alive and able and he's on the ballot but;let's face it; there is no other "Ron Paul", his own Son is more politically savy and;pisses us off sometimes but get's broad support in the process.

I'm not going to dismiss a man who has a record that looks damn good, years of speaking on foreign policy that looks pretty damn good;especially when compared to the likes of Bush and Obama and I'm just not going to damn him due to an interview with Sean Hannity.

 

[sailingaway]

It isn't just this interview to me, but honestly, caving to a tv personality doesn't bode well for standing up to DC special interest pressure. MOST cave. I like Rand better, but I wouldn't be anti Gary specifically except that he is running against Ron and his supporters are targeting Ron's support. THAT makes him an opponent.

 

[johnrocks]

To be honest, I have not seen this video, where is it at? Is it posted in this thread, it's not in the OP;not on my computer anyway, can someone please post it for me, I may do an about face my damn self,lol.

 

[klamath]

I see people promoting GJ's as a second voice for liberty in the debates. Well rest assured that same blowback question is going to be asked of RP this election and you know what, GJ just showed us how he is going to back up RP in the debates.

 

[belian78]

Johnrocks,

I'm not dismissing the guy, and I'm not saying he isn't an ally in getting a more libertarian message out. But the simple fact is, his being in the primary race is a direct spit in the eye to Rons campaign. There is no other way to look at it, unless you are either under the impression that 1. GJ and Ron both just want to spread the message further and have no intention of winning. Which under that assumption, the grassroots support will be a shadow of what it could be, for either guy. Or 2. You are hoping that Ron will eventually bow out and play 'kingmaker' to GJ, which is a huge FU to everything we've done in the last 6 years.

The second is something I have a sneaking suspicion that is the aim for a few of the other posters here that have been posting GJ threads the last couple days.

 

[Fredom101]

It's a bullshit answer. Gary J is a slick politician, trying to have things both ways. He should have said "You're damn right I agree with Ron Paul on that! What would you suggest, Sean, that bombing the middle east for over a decade had nothing to do with the motivations behind 9/11?"

But GJ is not for liberty, he is for whatever gets him political power.

 

[specsaregood]

To be honest, I have not seen this video, where is it at? Is it posted in this thread, it's not in the OP;not on my computer anyway, can someone please post it for me, I may do an about face my damn self,lol.

It is in the op: But maybe you can't see it embedded:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9u1LsYTSPs&feature=player_embedded

Hannity says dr. paul went off the deepend in the debate with giulianni. Says Dr. Paul said we caused 9/11. Then point blank asks Johnson to say whether he agrees with Dr. Paul or not.

 

[johnrocks]

It is in the op: But maybe you can't see it embedded:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9u1LsYTSPs&feature=player_embedded

Hannity says dr. paul went off the deepend in the debate with giulianni. Says Dr. Paul said we caused 9/11. Then point blank asks Johnson to say whether he agrees with Dr. Paul or not.

Thanks specs!

 

[sailingaway]

Johnrocks,

I'm not dismissing the guy, and I'm not saying he isn't an ally in getting a more libertarian message out. But the simple fact is, his being in the primary race is a direct spit in the eye to Rons campaign. There is no other way to look at it, unless you are either under the impression that 1. GJ and Ron both just want to spread the message further and have no intention of winning. Which under that assumption, the grassroots support will be a shadow of what it could be, for either guy. Or 2. You are hoping that Ron will eventually bow out and play 'kingmaker' to GJ, which is a huge FU to everything we've done in the last 6 years.

The second is something I have a sneaking suspicion that is the aim for a few of the other posters here that have been posting GJ threads the last couple days.

They outright said it in the beginning, that somehow it was Gary's 'turn' to take over the libertarian collective including Ron's supporters who didn't care about 'libertarian' before they heard of Ron Paul. Then they got a little more subtle. Go look at 'the Ames Accord' posted in the straw poll section, suggesting that 'whichever is polling best before the Ames poll bow out and endorse the other. They want to use Ron's reputation and work to get others to look at Gary and then compete with Ron for Ron's own support and others, then force Ron to bow out before the Ames straw poll.

They are NOT going around posting GJ interviews and videos, they are trying to say on RON's interviews and videos that Gary (who interviews terribly) is just like Ron but better.

 

[johnrocks]

It is in the op: But maybe you can't see it embedded:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9u1LsYTSPs&feature=player_embedded

Hannity says dr. paul went off the deepend in the debate with giulianni. Says Dr. Paul said we caused 9/11. Then point blank asks Johnson to say whether he agrees with Dr. Paul or not.

OK, I've seen this one, Sean Hannity was trying to pigeonhole Johnson into criticizing RP and he didn't. Both are going to be running, I don't expect either to be cheerleading the other in the primaries.

 

[belian78]

Heh... But I'm the one who is ignorant and closed minded.

 

[Peace&Freedom]

I can see Johnson serve in an (economic?) post in a Paul administration, where he follows Paul's policy in areas where he is naturally comfortable. But as shown in the clip, he is not capable of standing on his own principles when push comes to shove. And note the context of the discussion was precisely Paul's confrontation with Giuliani, where Paul DID stand his ground. A study in contrasts. Paul, the "doesn't leak," all weather Libertarian, is head and shoulders above Johnson, the fair weather libertarian.