Discussion of candidates for Iowa US Senate. Harkin not running re-election in Iowa

[eleganz]

I didn't know there was this much disdain(?) for this guy.

I shared because a friend in NY knew him and was excited for it. Is there a chance Fischer would run?

 

[XTreat]

I didn't know Drew or David were interested but they would certainly have my support. I like AJ in charge of the IA GOP. I could back Kent, but not over die hards like David or Drew.

 

[sailingaway]

David seems to have the most support.

I don't know the story with Sorenson, but I did feel he shafted Ron who had even spoken at a fundraiser for him and whose grass roots were a big part of getting him elected, because he thought Bachmann had a better chance. Ron had a REAL chance at Iowa, and that splitting of the tea party hurt. But mostly there are just a lot of question marks for me about him. I trust our folks in Iowa, and if they are saying David is the guy, that sounds good to me.

 

[itshappening]

What is Fischer's background? There is no public bio of him anywhere.

It would be a complete long shot if he's unknown even to RP supporters like ourselves.

Sorenson is at least elected since 2008 and has beaten incumbent Democrats.

You can't be virtually unknown and win a senate seat unless you're very wealthy.

 

[John of Des Moines]

What is Fischer's background? There is no public bio of him anywhere.

It would be a complete long shot if he's unknown even to RP supporters like ourselves.

Sorenson is at least elected since 2008 and has beaten incumbent Democrats.

You can't be virtually unknown and win a senate seat unless you're very wealthy.

I don't think Dave Fischer would be actually interested in running but I haven't talked to him. It's still really, really, early to say who'd throw their hat in the ring.

Sorenson firebombed numerous bridges when he supported Bachmann. Dr. Paul had endorsed him and came to town to do so with many Paul people working for Sorenson in his '10 Senate race, walking parades, lit drops, etc. It pissed them off when they read in the paper Sorenson was supporting Bachmann and not placing a call or two to his main Paul people in his campaign with the news ahead of time. (I was not active in his campaign.)

I spoke to him at the '08 Straw Poll - his nonverbal reaction to my questions said it all. Eyes darting about, pupils closing up, a lot of nervous gestures.

 

[itshappening]

I don't think Dave Fischer would be actually interested in running but I haven't talked to him. It's still really, really, early to say who'd throw their hat in the ring.

Sorenson firebombed numerous bridges when he supported Bachmann. Dr. Paul had endorsed him and came to town to do so with many Paul people working for Sorenson in his '10 Senate race, walking parades, lit drops, etc. It pissed them off when they read in the paper Sorenson was supporting Bachmann and not placing a call or two to his main Paul people in his campaign with the news ahead of time. (I was not active in his campaign.)

I spoke to him at the '08 Straw Poll - his nonverbal reaction to my questions said it all. Eyes darting about, pupils closing up, a lot of nervous gestures.

I'm not too concerned about presidential politics when it comes to finding a candidate for Senate.

Sorenson is elected since 2008 and would be our best shot.

An unknown is not going to the U.S Senate unless they have millions of dollars.

 

[John of Des Moines]

I'm not too concerned about presidential politics when it comes to finding a candidate for Senate.

Sorenson is elected since 2008 and would be our best shot at getting stabbed in the back.

An unknown is not going to the U.S Senate unless they have millions of dollars.

There fixed it for you.

You're Welcome.

 

[itshappening]

There fixed it for you.

You're Welcome.

I dont know if he will stab us in the back if we got him elected to the U.S Senate .

There are many candidates worth supporting who didn't, for one reason or another, support Ron Paul. Cuccinelli in Virginia springs to mind who was backing Romney but you won't find a better candidate for governor of that state.

I don't see much else out there in Iowa who could mount a successful campaign for this seat beyond the congressmen who I don't think will play well outside their district and may not want to risk it. Otherwise this seat is going to go to a well funded Democrat so we might as well find someone who has the kind of background Sorenson has i.e elected and with a record at beating Democrats.

 

[JoshLowry]

I dont know if he will stab us in the back if we got him elected to the U.S Senate .

There are many candidates worth supporting who didn't, for one reason or another, support Ron Paul. Cuccinelli in Virginia springs to mind who was backing Romney but you won't find a better candidate for governor of that state.

None of us know for sure how someone will perform when all the pressures have been applied.

However, you suggest the guy who was backing Romney over the guy who supported Ron Paul in '07? Where is the caution in that?

Dave could win Iowa.

 

[itshappening]

None of us know for sure how someone will perform when all the pressures have been applied.

However, you suggest the guy who was backing Romney over the guy who supported Ron Paul in '07? Where is the caution in that?

Dave could win Iowa.

I think it's rather flippant to say Fischer could win. No one knows who he is, there's no public bio of him anywhere !

It's not easy to win a US Senate race, it takes millions of dollars and usually some kind of track record for the desired candidate especially in a primary where a base of support, no matter how small, is a good starting point.

Sorenson is elected since 2008 and has beaten incumbent Democrats so his constituents obviously identify with him and he's battle tested.

Whether he can raise the money or not is another matter the fact is he has a much better shot than someone who isn't in that position.

 

[Liberty & Justice]

ya sorenson is not to be trusted. I can't speak for anyone else and if they'd be any good but definitely not sorenson. definitely dont want to get near him, with his ongoing legal troubles.

 

[Anti-Neocon]

I agree with itshappening. We've got to win this, and Sorenson has the best chance. I don't consider his Bachmann endorsement to be a true stab in the back, cause he did say he endorsed Bachmann over Paul because Bachmann asked and Paul didn't.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

Sorenson waffled between Bachmann and Paul until her campaign imploded at the end. It seemed opportunistic to me.

 

[SpreadOfLiberty]

I say better than nothing, however would prefer somebody more trustworthy.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

I could be wrong, but Sorenson's actions don't scream out "true believer" to me. I think he'd have a tough time galvanizing the liberty movement behind him. We have to find someone better.

 

[sailingaway]

It sounded like that Dave guy has the inside track.

 

[John of Des Moines]

Listen to Senator Mark Chelgren speak with Jan Michelson about the Senate seat. (About 20 minutes in. (Chelgren heads up the legislature's constitutional caucus.)

Then listen to Jan's previous podcast with Sorenson then with Senator Zaun. Who's interested in liberty.

 

[sailingaway]

Well, some people talk a good game. I mean, heck, Perry and Gingrich wanted to abolish the Fed, remember?

So I'm trusting you guys in Iowa to point us towards the ones who really mean what they say.

 

[Uriah]

After redistricting, Mark Chelgren became my state senator. He hasn't had a bad vote as far as I know. He endorsed Bachmann but his rhetoric and votes are pretty stellar.

 

[sailingaway]

After redistricting, Mark Chelgren became my state senator. He hasn't had a bad vote as far as I know. He endorsed Bachmann but his rhetoric and votes are pretty stellar.

Is he up for running? How would you grade him against Dave Fischer (the other one you guys seem to like)? What about issues like the Patriot Act and NDAA? Bachmann was awful on those, and they don't really come up on the state level. Do we have any indication of either of their feelings on that?