DHS & FBI Conduct Terror Raids at Multiple Michigan Locations

[sharpsteve2003]

Worst advice. Never "lawyer UP."

Talking to the Police by Professor James Duane
James Duane explains why innocent people should never talk to the police.
47:14 - 1 year ago
Professor James Duane’s now famous 5th Amendment lecture - popularly known as “Don’t talk to the police!” - has amassed a considerable internet following. The lecture, given as part of Regent Law School’s spring preview weekend.
"Don't Talk to the Police" by Professor James Duane

 

[tpreitzel]

Talking to the Police by Professor James Duane
James Duane explains why innocent people should never talk to the police.
47:14 - 1 year ago
Professor James Duane’s now famous 5th Amendment lecture - popularly known as “Don’t talk to the police!” - has amassed a considerable internet following. The lecture, given as part of Regent Law School’s spring preview weekend.

Thanks, but no thanks.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Thanks, but no thanks.

it's totally worth it.

 

[tpreitzel]

it's totally worth it.

Inside joke that flopped.

James constantly stresses the need to just say, "thanks, but no thanks" to interrogation by the police. I couldn't agree more. Yeah, his advice is totally worth it as I know from personal experience.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Inside joke that flopped.

James constantly stresses the need to just say, "thanks, but no thanks" to interrogation by the police. I couldn't agree more. Yeah, his advice is totally worth it as I know from personal experience.

Ahh, OK, I've seen the vid like 3 times, but never keyed in on the "thanks, but no thanks"

 

[Dojo]

Judge to decide bond in Hutaree militia case on Friday
Paul Egan and Mike Wilkinson / The Detroit News

Detroit -- A federal judge said he will rule Friday on whether eight of nine defendants accused of belonging to a radical militia that wanted to kill police officers will be granted bail.



From The Detroit News: http://www.detnews.com/article/2010...-Hutaree-militia-case-on-Friday#ixzz0jsQ8dzco

 

[devil21]

I didn't read the whole thread so pardon if a repeat.

I received a couple messages on a social networking site indicating that these Hutaree people are actually Israeli agents and their "militia" was a cover for Mossad ops in the US.

Has anybody else seen anything about this? I can post the messages if anyone wants to see.

 

[pcosmar]

I didn't read the whole thread so pardon if a repeat.

I received a couple messages on a social networking site indicating that these Hutaree people are actually Israeli agents and their "militia" was a cover for Mossad ops in the US.

Has anybody else seen anything about this? I can post the messages if anyone wants to see.

No,
but if you look through the thread you will see where that bullshit comes from.

If you check. "Commanding General" real sons of liberty " Is a well known racist nuisance.

 

[devil21]

No,
but if you look through the thread you will see where that bullshit comes from.

If you check. "Commanding General" real sons of liberty " Is a well known racist nuisance.

"Sons of Liberty" was mentioned in the messages so you're on to something there. Will check it out.

 

[Dojo]

Update

More arguments coming before ruling on Hutaree bond today


Paul Egan / The Detroit News

Detroit --A federal judge is expected to hear further arguments at 1 p.m. today on whether bond should be granted to alleged members of a radical militia group.It's unlikely any members of a Michigan-based group accused of sedition and plotting to kill police officers will be released today, even if U.S. Magistrate Judge Donald Scheer grants them bond, attorneys involved with the case say.

That's because the government is expected to appeal any orders granting bond in the case, and it's unlikely any appeal would be heard before early next week, attorneys said today.

Scheer is expected to issue a ruling on bond today after hearing arguments Wednesday and Thursday on whether bail should be granted for eight of the defendants. A ninth defendant is also in custody but awaiting transfer to Detroit from Indiana.







From The Detroit News: http://www.detnews.com/article/20100402/METRO/4020406/1409#ixzz0jxeAMF2r

 

[jmdrake]

Jesus was not "king of the jews", you've very confused, some people accused him of being a rouge political rival (king of JUDEA) in order to have him killed. I'm not going to derail this thread but I would recommend Revelation 2:9, John 8:39, and Matthew 23:27, and also look up the words Judean and Judahite and compare them to the word jew.

I know I shouldn't engage with this nonsense, but I can't resist.

Rev. 2:9 - Talks about people who say they are Jews but are not but are of the "synagogue of Satan". Are you claiming Jesus was of the synagogue of Satan? Regardless, that has nothing to do with whether or not Jesus was Jewish or "king of the Jews".

John 8:39 - Jesus says He chose 12, but one was a devil. Are you claiming Judas was the only Jewish (or fake Jewish) disciple? Regardless this has nothing to do with whether or not Jesus was Jewish or King of the Jews.

Matthew 23:27 - Jesus calls the teachers of the law and the Pharasees "hypocrites" and "empty tombs". Ummm....so what? That has nothing to do with whether or not Jesus was Jewish or King of the Jews.

Argument fail.

 

[Dojo]

No bail

Posted: 1:45 p.m. April 2, 2010

8 Hutaree militia members ordered locked up

BY DAVID ASHENFELTER
FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER


A federal magistrate judge today locked up eight members of a Lenawee County militia group pending trial on charges that they conspired to overthrow the U.S. government.


http://www.freep.com/article/201004...8/8-Hutaree-members-ordered-held-without-bond




“It is difficult to underestimate the dangers inherent in the crimes charged in this case,” Magistrate Judge Donald Scheer said from his bench in the U.S. District courthouse in Detroit in ordering the seven men and one woman to remain in jail for what their lawyers said could be a two-year wait until trial.


The lawyers, who are likely to appeal Scheer’s decision, said the defendants pose no risk to the public and are not a flight risk to avoid trial.


But Scheer said they did pose a risk, adding he could find no combination of bond restrictions that would guarantee that they would appear for trial and pose a risk to the community.


David Stone Sr., 45; his wife, Tina Stone, 44; and his son, Joshua Stone, all of Clayton; Stone’s other son, David Stone Jr., 19 of Adrian; Joshua Clough, 28 of Blissfield; Michael Meeks, 40 of Manchester; Kristopher Sickles, 27 of Sandusky, Ohio; and Jacob Ward, 33 of Huron, Ohio. A ninth defendant, Thomas Piatek, 46, of Whiting, Ind., was arrested there and is awaiting transfer to Michigan for trial.


A grand jury indictment says the defendants, led by David Stone Sr., belonged to the Hutaree, a Christian militia, and planned to attack local, state and federal law enforcement officers. Prosecutors said they held training exercises and exploded bombs to prepare for battle.


The indictment said they planned to kill a police officer and attack members of the officer’s funeral procession.


The defendants pleaded not guilty and their lawyers disputed the charges during a two-day detention hearing Wednesday and Thursday. The lawyers told Scheer the defendants voiced unfavorable views of the government, but never acted on those beliefs and should be released on bond pending trial, which could be two years off.


Federal prosecutors said they are a threat and should be detained. Agents started arresting them in raids last weekend, saying they were planning an operation for April.


All nine are charged with seditious conspiracy, attempt to use weapons of mass destruction, possession of a firearm in relation to a crime of violence. David Stone Sr. and David Stone Jr. also are charged with teaching/demonstrating use of explosive materials.’


The most serious charge, attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction, carries a maximum penalty of life in prison. Seditious conspiracy and teaching/demonstrating the use of explosive materials carry a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison. The firearm possession charges carries a mandatory 5-year prison term.


Contact DAVID ASHENFELTER: or [email protected]

 

[pcosmar]

Disappointing, but not unexpected.

It would be nice to find the Provocateur and convince him to come clean.

Everyone stands before the final judge.

 

[tpreitzel]

Scheer needs to be booted from the bench, apparently just another corrupt judge.

A two year wait for a trial sitting in jail? Now, that's a speedy trial.

As I've said in other threads, whether you like it or not, America, the second Civil War is apparently in progress and you WILL have to select a side. Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide.

 

[Pericles]

Scheer needs to be booted from the bench, apparently just another corrupt judge.

A two year wait for a trial sitting in jail? Now, that's a speedy trial.

As I've said in other threads, whether you like it or not, America, the second Civil War is apparently in progress and you WILL have to select a side. Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide.

Not looking forward to CWII, but don't see how it can be avoided at this point.

 

[pcosmar]

Not looking forward to CWII, but don't see how it can be avoided at this point.

There are several threads following several stories with a similar theme.
Expect some sort of False Flag event (this one didn't work out) and a violent government response.
They are pushing, provoking and instigating. Something evil this way comes.
Eyes and ears open.

 

[revolutionisnow]

I know I shouldn't engage with this nonsense, but I can't resist.

Rev. 2:9 - Talks about people who say they are Jews but are not but are of the "synagogue of Satan". Are you claiming Jesus was of the synagogue of Satan? Regardless, that has nothing to do with whether or not Jesus was Jewish or "king of the Jews".

John 8:39 - Jesus says He chose 12, but one was a devil. Are you claiming Judas was the only Jewish (or fake Jewish) disciple? Regardless this has nothing to do with whether or not Jesus was Jewish or King of the Jews.

Matthew 23:27 - Jesus calls the teachers of the law and the Pharasees "hypocrites" and "empty tombs". Ummm....so what? That has nothing to do with whether or not Jesus was Jewish or King of the Jews.

Argument fail.

The Bible has been translated multiple times, you really need to look up the different meanings of words. Judean means someone living in the kingdom of Judea, like a Roman lived in Rome. Judahite/Israelite was a bloodline of people. Someone can convert to a religion, but they cannot convert to a bloodline. Jew means someone who believes in Judaism, which is a religion descended from the Pharisee sect, but it has also come to refer to people of Sephardic or Ashkenazi ethnic heritage. Jesus was not a Pharisee, He didn't follow the Talmud, and He was not Ashkenazi or Sephardic. And you're right, how could He be related to someone who He said their physical seed was of satan? He was ethnically Galilean, His early religion was Yahwehism, later in His life He started His own distinct teachings with His own followers, a movement that would later be called Christianity.

Jesus was a Judahite/Israelite, He knew His sheep and His sheep knew Him, so they followed Him, meaning that they were early Christians. The Esau / Edomite impostors persecuted Him, and opposed everything He stood for. The Judahite bloodline is only recorded until the birth of Jesus, then the covenant was fulfilled. A new covenant was made and anyone who accepts Jesus is Israel, your DNA does not provide you salvation. Salvation is of Christ, it has nothing to do with the jews.

Yes, Judas was the only Jewish disciple, and was most likely a Sicarii.

Jesus chastised the Jews people because they did not follow The Laws of Moses, but concerned themselves with the traditions of the elders, which was a precursor to the Babylonian Talmud.

 

[tpreitzel]

Not looking forward to CWII, but don't see how it can be avoided at this point.

Nobody who loves this republic is looking forward to CW2, but the federal government continues to push, push, push, push, push, and ... well push some more. The perimeters defined in the US Constitution have been trampled by the federal government.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

The Bible has been translated multiple times, you really need to look up the different meanings of words. Judean means someone living in the kingdom of Judea, like a Roman lived in Rome. Judahite/Israelite was a bloodline of people. Someone can convert to a religion, but they cannot convert to a bloodline. Jew means someone who believes in Judaism, which is a religion descended from the Pharisee sect, but it has also come to refer to people of Sephardic or Ashkenazi ethnic heritage. Jesus was not a Pharisee, He didn't follow the Talmud, and He was not Ashkenazi or Sephardic. And you're right, how could He be related to someone who He said their physical seed was of satan? He was ethnically Galilean, His early religion was Yahwehism, later in His life He started His own distinct teachings with His own followers, a movement that would later be called Christianity.

Jesus was a Judahite/Israelite, He knew His sheep and His sheep knew Him, so they followed Him, meaning that they were early Christians. The Esau / Edomite impostors persecuted Him, and opposed everything He stood for. The Judahite bloodline is only recorded until the birth of Jesus, then the covenant was fulfilled. A new covenant was made and anyone who accepts Jesus is Israel, your DNA does not provide you salvation. Salvation is of Christ, it has nothing to do with the jews.

Yes, Judas was the only Jewish disciple, and was most likely a Sicarii.

Jesus chastised the Jews people because they did not follow The Laws of Moses, but concerned themselves with the traditions of the elders, which was a precursor to the Babylonian Talmud.

While I have no intention of further derailing the thread, and would welcome seeing this section split out to Religion where it belongs, I cannot pass by without comment.

Fortunately, I actually read the scripture in Hebrew and Greek, so I can personally attest to the fact that the only real loss present in the KJV and the NASB English is in terms of "color." That is, there is no real meaning lost, it's more the difference between seeing a movie in color or black and white. The Hebrew and Greek show up in full color, while the English shows up in black and white.

We know that Mark, John, Peter, Andrew, Jude, Simon, James the Younger and James the Elder (along with Paul) at a minimum were blood-Israelites, Matthew and Thomas were probably lapsed Jews. Batholomew and Philip we honestly don't know.

The background on Judas Iscariot is less clear, except that he was Judaen while the rest of the diciples were Gallileans. He also seems to have been a violent Judean nationalist who was disappointed because Yeshua did not go about conquering the world with weapons.

Fortunately, it is possible to look at these facts without bias or preconceptions, when one is not predisposed against specific collected groups.

 

[Dr.3D]

Don't boast as if you are better than the branches.

The Bible has been translated multiple times, you really need to look up the different meanings of words. Judean means someone living in the kingdom of Judea, like a Roman lived in Rome. Judahite/Israelite was a bloodline of people. Someone can convert to a religion, but they cannot convert to a bloodline. Jew means someone who believes in Judaism, which is a religion descended from the Pharisee sect, but it has also come to refer to people of Sephardic or Ashkenazi ethnic heritage. Jesus was not a Pharisee, He didn't follow the Talmud, and He was not Ashkenazi or Sephardic. And you're right, how could He be related to someone who He said their physical seed was of satan? He was ethnically Galilean, His early religion was Yahwehism, later in His life He started His own distinct teachings with His own followers, a movement that would later be called Christianity.

Jesus was a Judahite/Israelite, He knew His sheep and His sheep knew Him, so they followed Him, meaning that they were early Christians. The Esau / Edomite impostors persecuted Him, and opposed everything He stood for. The Judahite bloodline is only recorded until the birth of Jesus, then the covenant was fulfilled. A new covenant was made and anyone who accepts Jesus is Israel, your DNA does not provide you salvation. Salvation is of Christ, it has nothing to do with the jews.

Yes, Judas was the only Jewish disciple, and was most likely a Sicarii.

Jesus chastised the Jews people because they did not follow The Laws of Moses, but concerned themselves with the traditions of the elders, which was a precursor to the Babylonian Talmud.

I would suggest you read and understand Romans chapter 11.

I don't mean that you should just read it and understand the words, but that you should study what the words are actually saying.

And please take particular notice of this verse:

CJB Romans 11:18 then don't boast as if you were better than the branches! However, if you do boast, remember that you are not supporting the root, the root is supporting you.