Deep down, is Rand actually a true anarcho-capitalist? Either way is he still OK?

Is Rand Paul a more hardcore type libertarian, but pretending otherwise?

  • Yes, and it's why I support him

    Votes: 9 39.1%
  • Yes, but it's not why I support him

    Votes: 8 34.8%
  • No, and it's why I oppose him

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • No, and I oppose him for other reasons

    Votes: 5 21.7%

  • Total voters
    23
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I used to wonder this about Ron Paul. After years of being suspicious about him I decided that yes, he is probably an An-Cap and only paying lip service to the anti-abortion groups, "border control" Nazis, constitution worshipers, and other forms of statists. Honestly, he could NEVER have gotten the fame and attention he has without these groups.

Rand has either taken this to the next level, by pandering even further to more groups, or he has really lost touch with any fundamental principle guiding his views and decisions.

So which is it, is Rand an anarcho-capitalist pretending to be mainstream, or is he mainstream and pretending to have an-cap leaning beliefs?
 
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Your poll is missing 4 options:

"Yes, that is why I oppose him"
"Yes, but I oppose him for other reasons"
"No, and that is why I support him"
"No, but I support him for other reasons"
 
Your poll is missing 4 options:

"Yes, that is why I oppose him"
"Yes, but I oppose him for other reasons"
"No, and that is why I support him"
"No, but I support him for other reasons"

First thing that came to my mind was "No, but I still support him" and didn't see it
 
constitution worshipers, and other forms of statists

supporting the rule of law. does not a statist make.

our "constitution" does NOT apply to you or I. or the states for that matter.

"The two enemies of the people are criminals and government,
so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution
so the second will not become the legalized version of the first."
 
I used to wonder this about Ron Paul. After years of being suspicious about him I decided that yes, he is probably an An-Cap and only paying lip service to the anti-abortion groups, "border control" Nazis, constitution worshipers, and other forms of statists. Honestly, he could NEVER have gotten the fame and attention he has without these groups.

Rand has either taken this to the next level, by pandering even further to more groups, or he has really lost touch with any fundamental principle guiding his views and decisions.

So which is it, is Rand an anarcho-capitalist pretending to be mainstream, or is he mainstream and pretending to have an-cap leaning beliefs?

What is this labeling people and putting them into groups? It's not liberty.

What is Rand?

Look at his votes? Statements? Read his books?

You can get closer to answering the question, but you can't ever put it into words, much less a limiting single-word label.
 
They are both an-caps at heart most likely. Being anti-abortion does not violate freedom or make you a statist. Border control is not applicable or unique to ceterus paribus. Public Policy and Philosophy are two different realms. Most ancaps are whiners and just as bad as conservatives and liberals anyways.
 
Where's the option for, "No, and I support him anyway"?

Where's the option for, "No, and that's why I support him"?
 
Yeah, this poll needs a little work.

I don't think he is anywhere near to an-cap, but I also think he is much closer to an-cap than his public persona would suggest.
 
He's nowhere near being an ana-cap, but certainly more "hard core" than what he's letting on.

He's trying to be appointed president and to do that requires schmoozing, placating and kissing ass as required.

Goes with the territory.
 
Rand is dumb like a fox. He is like watching a fine chess player make his move, all the while letting on that he doesn't know how to play the game. I wouldn't wanna play poker with him but I sure as hell will vote for him!
 
I used to wonder this about Ron Paul. After years of being suspicious about him I decided that yes, he is probably an An-Cap and only paying lip service to the anti-abortion groups, "border control" Nazis, constitution worshipers, and other forms of statists. Honestly, he could NEVER have gotten the fame and attention he has without these groups.

Rand has either taken this to the next level, by pandering even further to more groups, or he has really lost touch with any fundamental principle guiding his views and decisions.

So which is it, is Rand an anarcho-capitalist pretending to be mainstream, or is he mainstream and pretending to have an-cap leaning beliefs?


Where is the 5th option for "I project my personal views on politicians who do not share them" :rolleyes:
 
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