DC Police Chief Responds to Adam Kokesh's Planned Armed March

[torchbearer]

...You just missed my point entirely.

your point is, you think there are better ways.
there may be, you should go do them.

 

[torchbearer]

Yup, Kokesh is gonna end up in jail. Hopefully he gets out before Rand becomes president. Probably not, though. Rand might have to pardon him.

from a cops point of view, this event will be a sign of disrespect. they will violate him. if they capture him, they will work him over.
they will flail the skin off his back, put a crown of thorns on his head, and mock him.

 

[SkepticalMetal]

your point is, you think there are better ways.
there may be, you should go do them.

Not necessarily my core point. What I was really trying to say was that this is a bad idea. A "nothing to gain, everything to lose" kind of deal.

Oh, I should go do them? Right, because I guess it's totally unethical to point out something that I think is rather pointless and subject to disaster. How hypocritical!

 

[Qdog]

Its ballsy! I like it. Everyone wants to "support our troops" for supposedly protecting our "freedoms" by killing goat herders in Afganistan. Why do we not want to support these real heroes, who are willing to march through that black gates into the heart of Mordor facing almost certain death, all in the name of freedom?

It may be stupid. But at this point not standing up might be even more stupid. I know I wont dig my own grave so I can be shot in the back of the head.

 

[torchbearer]

Not necessarily my core point. What I was really trying to say was that this is a bad idea. A "nothing to gain, everything to lose" kind of deal.

Oh, I should go do them? Right, because I guess it's totally unethical to point out something that I think is rather pointless and subject to disaster. How hypocritical!

it gains in the same way obama winning over romney is a gain....
the people in louisiana will be agitated by a show of federal force against open carry protestors.
and i don't think this state is the only one.
this event will agitate. the pigs are playing their part as expected.

the pigs could neutralize kokesh by allowing him to march around without a fuss, or even act like- they don't even know what his problem is.. he can protest all he wants. then kokesh looks like a fool and the situation dies out.
that isn't happening is it.
you have no rights, only the privileges granted to you by a certain jurisdiction.
d.c. says you can't carry a firearm. therefore, you don't have the right.

that notion is false.

 

[SkepticalMetal]

it gains in the same way obama winning over romney is a gain....
the people in louisiana will be agitated by a show of federal force against open carry protestors.
and i don't think this state is the only one.
this event will agitate. the pigs are playing their part as expected.

the pigs could neutralize kokesh by allowing him to march around without a fuss, or even act like- they don't even know what his problem is.. he can protest all he wants. then kokesh looks like a fool and the situation dies out.
that isn't happening is it.
you have no rights, only the privileges granted to you by a certain jurisdiction.
d.c. says you can't carry a firearm. therefore, you don't have the right.

that notion is false.

First of all I must ask how you see Obama winning over Romney is a gain. Quit politics man...

But I suppose that if your ultimate goal is to have some sort of political revolution than things may very well turn in your favor through this. I am opposed to revolution in the political sense due to the fact that all throughout history, revolutions have simply been a matter of one gang of thieves throwing out the other. It always ends up being a pointless commotion and, in the end, accomplishes nothing. It's just a matter of history repeating itself over and over, with a new Lion taking it's place as King of the Jungle. It's never worked.

 

[torchbearer]

First of all I must ask how you see Obama winning over Romney is a gain. Quit politics man...

what did the conservative movement and republican congress do during Bush's 8 years?

Romney's win would neutralize most of the opposition we have to this bullshit right now. It would have been disastrous. Same policies. little opposition.

 

[torchbearer]

agitation builds opposition.
maybe you should read some history.

 

[SkepticalMetal]

what did the conservative movement and republican congress do during Bush's 8 years?

Romney's win would neutralize most of the opposition we have to this bullshit right now. It would have been disastrous. Same policies. little opposition.

http://lewrockwell.com/orig13/matson-k1.1.1.html

 

[torchbearer]

http://lewrockwell.com/orig13/matson-k1.1.1.html

i'm not even going to click on the link. either type what you want to say, or don't bother with a response.

 

[SkepticalMetal]

agitation builds opposition.
maybe you should read some history.

...And, miss my point all over again, why don't you? I already stated that if your goal is a political revolution, you may very well succeed in that regard. But in the long run, you won't be doing anything that hasn't been done a thousand times before. It's an age-old mistake, committed by loads of people missing the point.

 

[SkepticalMetal]

i'm not even going to click on the link. either type what you want to say, or don't bother with a response.

You're right. I shouldn't bother sharing information with people who are obviously resistant to it.

 

[torchbearer]

You're right. I shouldn't bother sharing information with people who are obviously resistant to it.

i'm not clicking on a link, you can post text here. i assume you don't have the mental capacity to make an argument yourself, so you have to use someone else's argument.
that's fine. just post it here.

 

[torchbearer]

...And, miss my point all over again, why don't you? I already stated that if your goal is a political revolution, you may very well succeed in that regard. But in the long run, you won't be doing anything that hasn't been done a thousand times before. It's an age-old mistake, committed by loads of people missing the point.

revolution doesn't mean armed. shooting, pew pew pew. it can mean people get pissed off enough the get off their asses and do something about it. the second amendment is the best issue ever to agitate over.
agitation is what led to civil rights reforms.

 

[SkepticalMetal]

i'm not clicking on a link, you can post text here. i assume you don't have the mental capacity to make an argument yourself, so you have to use someone else's argument.
that's fine. just post it here.

I suppose I can't talk about Lockean property rights, or reference his writings in any way, because then I wouldn't have "the mental capacity to make an argument myself." Right.

 

[torchbearer]

I suppose I can't talk about Lockean property rights, or reference his writings in any way, because then I wouldn't have "the mental capacity to make an argument myself." Right.

you haven't done it yet. i'm a skeptic, but you producing your own ideas in debating my ideas are welcomed.

 

[torchbearer]

rockwell's anti-voting rhetoric is one of the market reasons i don't give his site traffic. its nothing personal, i just don't want to contribute to such crap.

 

[vita3]

When I attented a rally for 911 first responders, there were a couple of police officers with us holding. Capitol police came onto our bus told everyone no guns were allowed & kind of laughed. They were definitly on our side that day.

Don't know how this will play out, but there are plenty of Capitol police offficers who know our GOV needs to be taken back.

Gotta push forward to get anywhere in this struggle. peace

 

[shane77m]

It looks like this event will be a go. All anyone can do now is start preparing for any potential fallout. This could go in a lot of ways.
AK might let himself be arrested but there will probably be many in the crowd that will not. Hopefully the police will use some sense and just let them walk. Or maybe they might join in.

 

[SkepticalMetal]

you haven't done it yet. i'm a skeptic, but you producing your own ideas in debating my ideas are welcomed.

Apparently not, as when I attempted to share a link to an article with you on why you should quit politics, you immediately assumed that I didn't have a "mental capacity" for making coherent arguments (which I find rather ironic due to how you never really seem to respond to my posts in whole and/or miss the point entirely of what I'm trying to say, taking it in a whole different direction). All I have seen from you so far are bizarre, cryptic responses with the occasional ad hominem thrown in. I think here would be a good place to stop in an effort to prevent myself from sounding like a broken record attempting to try to get you to actually understand what it is I'm speaking about.