DC Police Chief Responds to Adam Kokesh's Planned Armed March

[fr33]

i don't think we're talkin' congo drums here.

This is what I'm talking about.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

Actually, I was just thinking that they should all dress up as Spartans and make several formations of 300 to make entry from various points around the city. Each formation could shout something to the effect of MOLON LOBE—XERXES: COME AND TAKE OUR FIREARMS! in unison to its own drummer.

I mean, Adam already has that whole Leonidas thing going on, so everything would sort of come together and work itself out. And who knows, with enough news coverage, he might even make 480 BC posh again!

<Insert a yawning cat>

How about they protest peacefully with their rifles over their shoulders? Might make human rights posh again!

 

[Weston White]

<Insert a yawning cat>

How about they protest peacefully with their rifles over their shoulders? Might make human rights posh again!

Well I suppose that you miss the larger point to Battle of Thermopylae and of their strong belief structure.

For you, pontificator and greatness, as by the Oracle at Delphi
So hath a soothsayer
Gotten your lot, ‘tis a declaration in wise likeness

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

How is it exactly that months ago some vet is involuntarily committed in Virginia for saying on Fedbook that he's gonna lead a revolution , yet kokesh can get away with advertising this plan??

Maybe it was gun-owners' public support for Brandon Raub that helped the government realize their mistake in committing him.

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

One little screwup and everything we all have worked for will be set back years if not permanently.

Why work for something that can be toppled by a single a provocateur?

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

The more likely outcome is that people get arrested, most of the sheep agree with the arrest and lives are needlessly ruined when they could have been applied to much more effective situations.

And if the U.S. Supreme Court throws out D.C.'s "laws" and explicitly holds that the Second Amendment protects the right to open carry throughout the nation?

Another outcome is that a shot gets fired and at the very least an armed stand off or engagement occurs. This will not end well. It may make history books but it will not end well at all. To what degree one can only guess.

I'm guessing it would end well.

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

As would I. It is one thing to try and protect your home and family and entirely another to go looking for a fight.

If a person open-carried in D.C. simply to protect his family outside their home, would you accuse him of looking for a fight?

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

... the feds came up on the spot with illegal rules of engagement and our system dealt with it. It works if you use it ...

I waited two years … for non-violent “checks and balances” built into our system to correct the abuse of power we were seeing in federal actions against citizens. The Executive; Legislative; and Judicial branches not only concluded that the government did nothing wrong … , they actually gave awards and bonus pay to those agents involved … .

Other “checks and balances” likewise proved futile: media awareness and outcry (the major media failed in its role as overseer of government ally [sic]); protest marches; letter campaigns; even small-budget video production; etc. --- all failed to correct the abuse.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,17500,00.html

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

We have this cute little thing called the rule of law in our country. DC doesn't allow carrying firearms. If you disagree with that and think it's unconstitutional, which I actually do think, we have a process to change the laws.

Would you submit to any tyranny perpetrated by the majority? Such submission wouldn't be required by the rule of law.

The government of the United States has been emphatically termed a government of laws, and not of men. ... The powers of the legislature are defined and limited; and that those limits may not be mistaken, or forgotten, the constitution is written. ... Certainly all those who have framed written constitutions contemplate them as forming the fundamental and paramount law of the nation, and, consequently, the theory of every such government must be, that an act of the legislature, repugnant to the constitution, is void....

If an act of the legislature, repugnant to the constitution, is void, does it, notwithstanding its invalidity, ... constitute a rule as operative as if it was a law? ... A law repugnant to the constitution is void; and ... courts ... are bound by that instrument.

Marbury v. Madison, 5 US 137 - Supreme Court 1803. Finally,

During the 1788 ratification debates ... It was understood across the political spectrum that the right [to bear arms] helped to secure the ideal of a citizen militia, which might be necessary to oppose an oppressive military force if the constitutional order broke down.

District of Columbia v. Heller, 128 S. Ct. 2783 - Supreme Court 2008.

 

[parocks]

Not necessarily my core point. What I was really trying to say was that this is a bad idea. A "nothing to gain, everything to lose" kind of deal.

Oh, I should go do them? Right, because I guess it's totally unethical to point out something that I think is rather pointless and subject to disaster. How hypocritical!

Very often the words "Adam Kokesh" and "terrible idea" are found in the same sentence. It also seems very costly.

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

DC doesn't allow carrying firearms. If you disagree with that and think it's unconstitutional, which I actually do think....

I say take a zero off that for how many show and take another zero off for how many are stupid enough to commit a felony, go to jail and become a prohibited person.

You don't think the Supreme Court will strike down D.C.'s unconstitutional legislative act? (Not that you want to give the Court the opportunity to do that.)

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

Very often the words "Adam Kokesh" and "terrible idea" are found in the same sentence.

Why?

 

[tod evans]

This Fine specimen of humanity has risen to the top of the heap in the DC police department..

For some unknown reason I have a feeling that this broad will do exactly as her string-pullers tell her to do.

How about looking at her co-conspirator, the person who "really" calls the shots of little Miss Muffets band of thugs....

Meet the DA for DC;

Ronald C. Machen Jr.

Without this guys approval it's safe to assume that the DC cops would be languishing in Duncan Donuts on the tax-payers dime instead of bothering a handful of veterans protesting...

 

[klamath]

^ How I feel when I hear people bashing the protest as "reckless".

This is what I feel when I hear Sam Adams quoted. Start a fight and when the guns began to shoot, other people go up front.... If fact he ran when the guns began to shoot. I also love how he went after people that didn't share his views of the war.

After the Declaration of Independence, Congress continued to manage the war effort. Adams served on military committees, including an appointment to the Board of War in 1777.[172] He advocated paying bonuses to Continental Army soldiers to encourage them to reenlist for the duration of the war.[173] He called for harsh state legislation to punish Loyalists—Americans who continued to support the British crown—who Adams believed were as dangerous to American liberty as British soldiers. In Massachusetts, more than 300 Loyalists were banished and their property confiscated.[174] After the war, Adams opposed allowing Loyalists to return to Massachusetts, fearing that they would work to undermine republican government

Samual Adams would have had adam Kohesh banished back to russia and his property confuscated

 

[torchbearer]

This is what I feel when I hear Sam Adams quoted. Start a fight and when the guns began to shoot, other people go up front.... If fact he ran when the guns began to shoot. I also love how he went after people that didn't share his views of the war.
Samual Adams would have had adam Kohesh banished back to russia and his property confuscated

sam was rounding up the loyalist to the crown.
that would have been you, not adam.

 

[pcosmar]

Samual Adams would have had adam Kohesh banished back to russia and his property confuscated

Nice attempt there,,

Adam is from California,, Not Russia.

but as an attempted smear,, it was a nice try.

 

[klamath]

sam was rounding up the loyalist to the crown.
that would have been you, not adam.

After the war he wanted to round up the people because they MIGHT be a threat to the GOVERMENT

 

[klamath]

Nice attempt there,,

Adam is from California,, Not Russia.

but as an attempted smear,, it was a nice try.

He has russian ancestry like the loyalists had british ancestry.

 

[pcosmar]

After the war he wanted to round up the people because they MIGHT be a threat to the GOVERMENT

And where are we seeing that again?

"Might be a threat to government"..

You sound like a mouthpiece for the SPLC.

 

[klamath]

And where are we seeing that again?

"Might be a threat to government"..

You sound like a mouthpiece for the SPLC.

Why don't you spend your time finding the posts where I said adam was a threat to the country and should be rounded up?