Dating coach banned from several countries after internet feminist outrage over misogynist vid

what women are REALLY sexually attracted to.


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It's "science"

First this is a really bad argument, a lot of women stay in relationships like this for a long time due to these base sexual instincts. That is evidence they exist in and of itself. The fact that men who are able to obtain the most women use these traits to pick up and obtain women is not surprising, yet I do think it is sad.

But you still don't seem to understand that there is nothing preventing women from adjusting their attraction to other men.

For example, most guys are actually turned off when a female takes the active dating role. My base sexual attraction would then tell me not to be attracted to these women, yet I have no problem with women who take the active dating role. I made an adjustment, many women make these adjustments often and end up being with a guy who doesn't have these characteristics - although as I said before it is often less sexually centered and the men in these relationships can sometimes feel neglected in that the woman would do more sexual things more often for an alpha male type who treats them poorly and seeing this dynamic play out is what causes so many guys to treat women poorly.

All I'm saying is that feminists like to complain about how men treat women, yet women give the most sex to men who treat them poorly - they may SAY they like men who treat them better, but women on the whole give them less sex and so men think that what women really want is to treat them poorly.. men want sex because most men who aren't addicted to benzos and have a sex drive actually need to get laid once in a while so they can calm the fuck down and so they can focus on thoughts and other things besides how horny they are and how badly they need to get laid.
 
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It's not about getting ANY woman into bed, it's about getting the highest number of women by playing on women's underlying sexual desires and showing them that you have certain traits that are sexually appealing to them.




Yes, it is absolutely science - the reason they fail is the same reason they do well, they are constantly testing out and calibrating on different women and trying to figure out what works.

You can pretend to be ignorant and think that these guys never get laid if you want, but that's just being delusional.



Dude, I have no interest in this. The problem is that you and others on here view sex as a conquest; a game that is played. The more women a guy sleeps with, the more of a "man" he is. The more alpha. It's very primal and hunter-gatherery.

Just look how some of dudes on here talk about women. Women = sex. Nothing else. They have an extremely low opinion of them. Their view of gender and relationships is cringe inducing. They think they have all this esoteric knowledge of human relationship and understand women, but yet they have no idea how to connect to the opposite sex. It all centers around "getting laid", "sex drives", and "dominate men/submissive women".

It's quite sad actually.

Are there women out there who want to be submissive or treated badly? Sure. There are women out there who want to be dominate as well.

I think most people though, desire a relationship where there is mutual respect and compatibility. Obviously sexual attraction ties into this, but sex does not sustain a relationship. I think most normal people want a relationship (both men and women).

I will need to see actual concrete evidence to EVER be convinced that PUAs have sex with "a large number of women" purely based on their "scientific methods".

From what I have seen, they are either:

a. LYING.
b. DRUGGING.
c. PAYING.
D. ALL of the above.
 
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First this is a really bad argument, a lot of women stay in relationships like this for a long time due to these base sexual instincts. That is evidence they exist in and of itself. The fact that men who are able to obtain the most women use these traits to pick up and obtain women is not surprising, yet I do think it is sad.

But you still don't seem to understand that there is nothing preventing women from adjusting their attraction to other men.

For example, most guys are actually turned off when a female takes the active dating role. My base sexual attraction would then tell me not to be attracted to these women, yet I have no problem with women who take the active dating role. I made an adjustment, many women make these adjustments often and end up being with a guy who doesn't have these characteristics - although as I said before it is often less sexually centered and the men in these relationships can sometimes feel neglected in that the woman would do more sexual things more often for an alpha male type who treats them poorly and seeing this dynamic play out is what causes so many guys to treat women poorly.

All I'm saying is that feminists like to complain about how men treat women, yet women give the most sex to men who treat them poorly - they may SAY they like men who treat them better, but women on the whole give them less sex and so men think that what women really want is to treat them poorly.. men want sex because most men who aren't addicted to benzos and have a sex drive actually need to get laid once in a while so they can calm the fuck down and so they can focus on thoughts and other things besides how horny they are and how badly they need to get laid.


So SEXUAL INSTINCTS/ATTRACTION is the reason women stay in ABUSIVE relationships?

I learn something new every day.
 
Have you seen the one where Tyler goes around telling women his girlfriend just died?


No I didn't see that one.

These dudes have a low opinion of men as well. They're human garbage.

I can't even imagine my 16 year old self ever thinking these douchebags were 'cool'.
 
@ dannno

Dude, some of this shit is LAUGHABLE. I mean, some of it straight up American Pie, high school cafeteria stuff.

Do you think this works in ACTUAL reality in the ADULT world?
 
The problem is that you and others on here view sex as a conquest; a game that is played.

No, sex is a lot of things and I really prefer not to view it as a conquest. Although for some women it is a conquest too, so that can be fun to participate with. For me tho it isn't a game, I don't really use the methods that PUAs talk about although it does interest me and I have studied it in the past when I've been especially desperate for female intimacy and trying to find what could make me more sexually attractive to females.

Sex is healthy, it is a biological imperative, it helps keep my senses and mood centered and more calm, it helps my focus. However it is also a way to bond either on a short term or long term basis with others, it can be like an adventure, it can be a way to show love to a significant other, a short term or long term partner.


The more women a guy sleeps with, the more of a "man" he is. The more alpha. It's very primal and hunter-gatherery.

Ya that is the reality, that isn't an idea that I promote or think is the most healthy in modern society. It may have worked well back in tribal times.


Just look how some of dudes on here talk about women. Women = sex. Nothing else. They have an extremely low opinion of them. Their view of gender and relationships is cringe inducing. They think they have all this esoteric knowledge of human relationship and understand women, but yet they have no idea how to connect to the opposite sex. It all centers around "getting laid", "sex drives", and "dominate men/submissive women".

Well I hope you aren't referring to me, but I'm not quite sure who else here you'd be referring to. I think sex is an important part of a relationship, at least for most people. But I certainly don't think of women as only for sex, I connect with females on a lot of things besides just sex. But since I don't display these traits it amplifies my need for sex when I'm not in a relationship. I keep saying my behavior is pretty much the exact opposite of the PUAs, and I am merely lamenting that the way I behave is to my detriment sexually because I'm not able to act like these guys.

You have a whole other thread where you're trying to figure out how you can get off of some very dangerous and addictive prescription drugs because you have issues with anxiety. Well, I have issues with anxiety too.. the difference is I already know my cure. Cannabis goes 50% of the way and having regular sex goes the other 50% of the way. At that point my general anxiety is gone. Sure, things can happen in my life that cause me to be anxious but it is easily controllable whereas when I don't have sex or I'm not smoking weed, I have general anxiety when it is not necessary. Not every guy needs to smoke weed, but a lot of guys do need to have sex occasional to decrease their general anxiety and withholding for longer periods of time can cause psychological trauma for some men.


Are there women out there who want to be submissive or treated badly? Sure. There are women out there who want to be dominate as well.

I think most people though, desire a relationship where there is mutual respect and compatibility. Obviously sexual attraction ties into this, but sex does not sustain a relationship. I think most normal people want a relationship (both men and women).

Yes, that's why I say that the whole thing for women is a dichotomy. Do you know what that means? It's like an internal struggle by two opposing forces. Women can succumb either way at any moment in their life potentially because women's feelings an emotions are usually more dynamic and fluid. Men's feelings and emotions are generally more static and predictable. Women can consciously decide to be with a guy they have less base attraction for and consciously increase their attraction for them based on the reasons they hold that attraction. Or they can subconsciously be attracted to a guy who is controlling and dominant.
 
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@ dannno

Dude, some of this shit is LAUGHABLE. I mean, some of it straight up American Pie, high school cafeteria stuff.

Do you think this works in ACTUAL reality in the ADULT world?

I don't think it actually works, I've seen it work in real life adult world...over and over and over and over and over again for years and years and years. I have a lot more experience in these situations than you do.
 
I don't think it actually works, I've seen it work in real life adult world...over and over and over and over and over again for years and years and years. I have a lot more experience in these situations than you do.

I thought you weren't into adults?
 
I don't think it actually works, I've seen it work in real life adult world...over and over and over and over and over again for years and years and years. I have a lot more experience in these situations than you do.


I have lived in a (hipster part) of a fairly large city, a small town, and grew up in suburbia. I have never witnessed "PUA" tactics working in the adult world. In MY personal experience adults simply do not behave in the way the guys in those PUA videos do.

That might work in a college town full of drunken students, though.

We have 'clashed' several times since I've been here. I think we just have radically different worldviews and perceptions. We'll never see eye to eye on stuff like this.
 
did you watch the videos? The stuff that isn't creepy/terrible....is the most juvenile shit imaginable. It's stuff straight out of an apatow flick.

No sober WOMAN would fall for it.

This notion that women have some subconscious need to be "dominated" is absurd.

Also, if you haven't noticed many of those PUA pricks look like DATE RAPISTS.


EDIT: @ dannno do you have concrete evidence that PUA's "bang a ton of chicks" without drugging or paying them?

EDIT II: These dudes "pick up chicks off the street": http://www.datingskillsreview.com/yad/


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I don't think it actually works, I've seen it work in real life adult world...over and over and over and over and over again for years and years and years. I have a lot more experience in these situations than you do.
So have I and it makes me wonder how people can think evolution is true. If evolution is true, we are heading in the wrong direction with people breading for the wrong reasons.
It's not survival of the fittest, it survival of the dirt bags with the punks out breeding the decent folks.
 
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did you watch the videos?

No. I'm just saying that I assume that if somebody wants to learn a method to pick up girls for one night stands, the caveat that the method they are going to learn will only work on drunk college girls probably won't be placed in the negatives column.
 
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