Cured Cancer Patient Gets 20 years for selling Apricot Seeds - Vitamin B17 Cure

Or, are you too busy thinking about how to lure them into self-immolation?

Who ever suggested self-immolation? Go back and read the post I wrote and get back to me with what I actually said. That would be GREAT!

Like I ALSO said, it's a paradox. Look that up while you're looking up what immolation means. Isn't English fun? You should try learning it. ;)

Happy times!
 
I think cancer is pretty painful, I think I'd rather die of old age, in my sleep or something.

What age? If you KNEW you were going to not wake up in the morning, would you do anything prior to falling asleep? Make a phone call, write a note, update your will?
 
Who ever suggested self-immolation? Go back and read the post I wrote and get back to me with what I actually said. That would be GREAT!

Like I ALSO said, it's a paradox. Look that up while you're looking up what immolation means. Isn't English fun? You should try learning it. ;)

Happy times!

This account is done. The "Bust a cap for Jesus!" in your sig did it for me.\

Rocking the boat on purpose.
 
I'll watch the documentary posted, but I do have to acknowledge my bias in not really buying into the Vitamin B17 cure from what amount I have seen. While I don't agree with anyone getting 20 years imprisonment for selling a holistic medicine, nor do I inherently disagree with holistic cures in general, I agree with EndDaFed that the research doesn't seem to support the claims.

For me, the most damning thing about the claim is that "cancer" is a really broad disease to claim to cure. It's not like saying a medication cures AIDS, which is a specific viral illness. It's more like saying a certain medication cures viral infection. Different cancers come about in different ways, via different mechanisms. Does Vitamin B17 work against small cell lung cancer? Lymphomas? Leukemias? Melanomas? Adenocarcinoma of the colon? Squamous cell cancer of the esophagus? They aren't the same disease, and anyone that suggests they are all due to the same underlying deficiency... I'm sorry, but it simply isn't so.

While it's certainly important to question the sponsors of particular articles, just saying "IT'S ON A GOVERNMENT WEBSITE" isn't really enough to debunk the study. Having been a part of labs with government grants, I can attest that the actual influence of government bodies is nil. Grants represent more a form of government spending waste than they do any insidious influence. As a result, the motives of a researcher to have the personal glory of discovering the "cure to cancer" is far stronger than the researcher concealing the cure to maintain the profits of the business. Researchers tend to be much less big-picture than that. Again, that's just my own personal experience. Take it for what you will.

Ultimately, if you think you're doing the right thing with Vitamin B17, keep on taking it. If it actually does work out for you, all the better. If it doesn't work out and you need the cancer resected, I'll be there to help you out. If you waited too long and the cancer is inoperable, at least you tried what you felt would have saved your life.

+ rep. Great analysis of the issues here.
 
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My doctor told my husband who died of cancer if he was under stress? He said that will start the cancers. We were having all kinds of trouble with the Forrest service at the time.. I tried everything on him. Green drinks were the thing when I was young but nothing worked. I still take all kinds of herbs though.
 
While it's certainly important to question the sponsors of particular articles, just saying "IT'S ON A GOVERNMENT WEBSITE" isn't really enough to debunk the study. Having been a part of labs with government grants, I can attest that the actual influence of government bodies is nil.

Well articulated post. I only have one point of disagreement:

Is government influence also nil for things that do not receive a grant or is government influence just nil on the things that do receive grants?
 
Just found this thread a few weeks back and ordered the book. Almost finished with it and it has convinced me, however, I wonder if Deborah K Ever got a response from Ed?

Thank you for taking the time to watch the doc and for your well thought out questions. I'll forward them to Ed.

The 2nd half of the book was eye opening in regards to cartels.
 
Just found this thread a few weeks back and ordered the book. Almost finished with it and it has convinced me, however, I wonder if Deborah K Ever got a response from Ed?



The 2nd half of the book was eye opening in regards to cartels.


Thanks for bumping this thread. Excellent, excellent information on it. I am thankful to all the G. Edward Griffin has researched. He is definitely one of the pioneers to the liberty movement.
 
IDK, maybe it's a cure. In any case, I'm almost sure it's
probably four times as effective as this Placebo-Tab 500.
placebo-pill.jpg

(Note: These are only half as effective as one Placebo 1000,
but they only have half the calories, when taken as directed.)
 
Just found this thread a few weeks back and ordered the book. Almost finished with it and it has convinced me, however, I wonder if Deborah K Ever got a response from Ed?



The 2nd half of the book was eye opening in regards to cartels.

Actually, no. As I recall, I copied and pasted the questions into an email to him. He never responded back to me.
 
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Yup. They know damn well that if they let him continue selling the seeds and it works for people, word could spread fast and people might stop spending their life savings on chemo and other BS treatments.



Then why are there thousands of testimonials from people who went into remission after taking it? If it's all made up, then where did the idea come from in the first place?

It can only poison you if you take HUGE amounts. I will say this: Please don't try B17 until you've done your research.

Stop wasting time with this and go with anti-neoplastons from Stainslaw Burzynski.
 
Actually, no. As I recall, I copied and pasted the questions into an email to him. He never responded back to me.

That was a year ago, would you mind following up? I thought those were excellent questions and would be interested in knowing his response.

Also, does he still stand by this? I'm assuming he does as he issued an updated version in 2011.
 
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