Cured Cancer Patient Gets 20 years for selling Apricot Seeds - Vitamin B17 Cure

[Free Indeed!]

This is the best point made yet!

Strange how you can buy an apricot with a seed in it, but can't buy the seed alone. What if I wanted to buy apricot seeds to plant trees in my backyard? Is that illegal too?

 

[EndDaFed]

My point is that people lie. Even those not in government. Especially when money is around...

I haven't researched it, but evidently you have turned over every single stone.

When someone else tries to replicate results and there is a huge difference between one study and another maybe no real flags are raised at that moment. If more studies keep coming out that contradict the original study then flags can be raised. Fraud does not go very far. A plethora of studies are needed to reach any concussion by researches from all over the place within a given field of study. All it takes is one case of documented fraud for researcher to lose their job for good.

 

[dannno]

When someone else tries to replicate results and there is a huge difference between one study and another maybe no real flags are raised at that moment. If more studies keep coming out that contradict the original study then flags can be raised. Fraud does not go very far. A plethora of studies are needed to reach any concussion by researches from all over the place within a given field of study. All it takes is one case of documented fraud for researcher to lose their job for good.

If you watched the series of the video I posted, G. Edward Griffin describes all of the Laetril trials that went on and exactly where, how, and who the fraud occurred with. In fact, that is the main topic of his book. But ya, you've already overturned every stone on this topic and can't possibly be wrong.

 

[JoshLowry]

This is the best point made yet!

I'm guessing one can't buy the seeds in bulk because they don't want people making cyanide. As if gasoline isn't just as dangerous...

 

[dannno]

The initial trials regarding Laetril that occurred within an official Cancer institute in fact showed that the substance worked.

It wasn't until they moved a SINGLE trial to a different place, with a particular scientist who claimed that it showed no improvement. The funny thing about his trials was that the saline solution that the other half of the mice received actually helped shrink their tumors at a rate of 40%. No cancer study in history has EVER shown saline solution to reduce or shrink tumors.. which means he switched the mice.. But once they had ONE study that couldn't confirm the results they stopped testing.

The problem is that if you have a natural substance that treats cancer, you have to spend millions of dollars testing it for market.. but you can't patent natural substances, so NOBODY is willing to spend millions of dollars to go through the testing required to patent a natural substance. That is one of the biggest fatal flaws of our medical system, and it is why natural medicines are either rarely or never approved for medical use.

 

[trey4sports]

its probably a scam. That said, people should be able to buy what they want

 

[EndDaFed]

If you watched the series of the video I posted, G. Edward Griffin describes all of the Laetril trials that went on and exactly where, how, and who the fraud occurred with. In fact, that is the main topic of his book. But ya, you've already overturned every stone on this topic and can't possibly be wrong.

I will look into it. Of course I could be wrong. Please excuse my lack of enthusiasm for not jumping onto a source that lacks any training in oncology or related fields.

 

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

The FDA protects big pharma. Anyone who doesn't know that hasn't been paying attention.

I agree with the gist of your point but would personally articulate it:

Government protects revenue.

 

[JoshLowry]

It wasn't until they moved a SINGLE trial to a different place, with a particular scientist who claimed that it showed no improvement. The funny thing about his trials was that the saline solution that the other half of the mice received actually helped shrink their tumors at a rate of 40%. No cancer study in history has EVER shown saline solution to reduce or shrink tumors.. which means he switched the mice.. But once they had ONE study that couldn't confirm the results they stopped testing.

Sounds like the testing that was done when they came up with "Smoking cannabis kills brain cells"

They tested on monkeys. They hooked them up to a gas mask that pumped in 63 joints worth of smoke in 5 minutes for three months.

They suffocated them, that's what killed their brain cells.

EndDaFed watch this video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3JGjzwVvN8#t=58s

 

[AFPVet]

Sounds like the testing that was done when they came up with "Smoking cannabis kills brain cells"

They tested on monkeys. They hooked them up to a gas mask that pumped in 63 joints worth of smoke in 5 minutes for three months.

They suffocated them, that's what killed their brain cells.


EndDaFed watch this video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3JGjzwVvN8#t=58s

Wow! Carbon monoxide is the only dangerous thing about smoking cannabis... which is why smoking anything is not good for you. They can put it in brownies though lol.

 

[JoshLowry]

Wow! Carbon monoxide is the only dangerous thing about smoking cannabis... which is why smoking anything is not good for you. They can put it in brownies though lol.

You shouldn't smoke it, but you'll be fine if you do.

 

[EndDaFed]

Sounds like the testing that was done when they came up with "Smoking cannabis kills brain cells"

They tested on monkeys. They hooked them up to a gas mask that pumped in 63 joints worth of smoke in 5 minutes for three months.

They suffocated them, that's what killed their brain cells.

EndDaFed watch this video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3JGjzwVvN8#t=58s

Yes, I get it. Flawed methodology. Nothing to be taken seriously. Even with good methodology you do not base a claim on a single study alone. Which is why medical science has the requirement for replicability.

 

[JoshLowry]

Flawed methodology.

Flawed or fraudulent?

 

[Slutter McGee]

At least I know where to come when I present my new all natural cure for baldness. It really works. But the government doesn't want me putting hair growth products out of business. So they will tell you I am lying.

Or I really could be committing fraud, which in this case the government would be providing you a legitimate function when they tell you I am full of shit, and arrest me for trying to rip you off.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

 

[Dr.3D]

At least I know where to come when I present my new all natural cure for baldness. It really works. But the government doesn't want me putting hair growth products out of business. So they will tell you I am lying.

Or I really could be committing fraud, which in this case the government would be providing you a legitimate function when they tell you I am full of shit, and arrest me for trying to rip you off.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

Well, are there entities getting millions of dollars to research a cure for baldness? Would finding a cure for said baldness put them out of business?

With all of the millions of dollars being donated toward finding a cure for cancer, would anybody suspect those getting that money would want to really find a cure for cancer and put themselves out of business?

 

[Deborah K]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-06wR3kPNE0

"Studies by the National Cancer Institute showed no benefits to patients who took it." Hah! What a racket! I take the seeds as part of a preventive maintenance program. I buy them in bulk, along with gelatin capsules, grind them in a coffee grinder and use a capsule machine to make supplements out of them. It's a lot cheaper doing it this way. I take 4 a day. Each capsule holds almost a whole seed. I also strive to keep my alkaline higher than my acid levels by eating foods that are high in alkaline and limiting foods that are high in acid. The cancer virus thrives in a high acidic environment.

About 6 years ago, I was the primary caretaker of a terminally ill relative. I took care of her until she died and learned all that I could about cancer. There are many cures to cancer. But this God forsaken gov't doesn't want you to know about them. Read: When Healing becomes a crime by Kenny Ausubel.

 

[WillieKamm]

I also strive to keep my alkaline higher than my acid levels by eating foods that are high in alkaline and limiting foods that are high in acid. The cancer virus thrives in a high acidic environment.

Unfortunately that is bullshit. In fact, there are a lot of myths and bullshit on this thread and elsewhere. The trouble is people are naive and vulnerable. Yeah the government sucks, it lies to us, enslaves us in many ways, etc. Unfortunately many of the "cures" for this terrible disease, and other unfortunate facts of our daily lives are often worse than the original condition. Not that it matters in the long run, but I lived through it myself. I had two doctors I trusted, yes can you believe that? Two people in the medical establishment. Every case is unique, there is no one cause for cancer and there is no one magic bullet to cure it. My case was complicated by additional factors, and I needed one doctor to get me well enough for surgery, which she did. I need another to operate on me, and to educate and explain to me the nature of my illness as best he knew. Which he did. There is much more I can say, but really most people believe what they want. I don't think laetrile or B-17 us going to do much good, and I don't think it's the government's business if you believe otherwise. Health is complicated by genetics, your own individual environment, and probably a lot of personal and emotional factors thrown in. It often takes a combination of therapies to help someone beat this dreaded disease. Sorry to say, but many times conventional therapies work just fine. This is not a one size fits all situation. I wish everyone good health and the presence of mind to know what is best for you the individual in any specific situation.

 

[Deborah K]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEVWFtEmNOA&feature=related

Notice how she says that when she approached the Breast Cancer Society about her success, they never responded.....

 

[Deborah K]

Unfortunately that is bullshit. In fact, there are a lot of myths and bullshit on this thread and elsewhere. The trouble is people are naive and vulnerable. Yeah the government sucks, it lies to us, enslaves us in many ways, etc. Unfortunately many of the "cures" for this terrible disease, and other unfortunate facts of our daily lives are often worse than the original condition. Not that it matters in the long run, but I lived through it myself. I had two doctors I trusted, yes can you believe that? Two people in the medical establishment. Every case is unique, there is no one cause for cancer and there is no one magic bullet to cure it. My case was complicated by additional factors, and I needed one doctor to get me well enough for surgery, which she did. I need another to operate on me, and to educate and explain to me the nature of my illness as best he knew. Which he did. There is much more I can say, but really most people believe what they want. I don't think laetrile or B-17 us going to do much good, and I don't think it's the government's business if you believe otherwise. Health is complicated by genetics, your own individual environment, and probably a lot of personal and emotional factors thrown in. It often takes a combination of therapies to help someone beat this dreaded disease. Sorry to say, but many times conventional therapies work just fine. This is not a one size fits all situation. I wish everyone good health and the presence of mind to know what is best for you the individual in any specific situation.

To each his own.

 

[Deborah K]

Here is the documentary: World without Cancer (regarding B17 found in apricot seeds)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4312930190281243507#

Here is the book: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/world_withoutcancer.pdf

As Danno has already pointed out, Ed Griffin is one of the pioneers in exposing the Fed. I know him personally, and although I don't agree with him on everything, I'd trust his research on Cancer before I'd ever trust the American Medical Association.