CSPAN - Kucinch will vote YES on healthcare

[jmdrake]

Good.
http://kucinich.us/




Want me to keep goin'

Oh, and thank you. 52 is only my half-life.

I'm not sure what's with this rash of people claiming others must be "young" just because you disagree with them. Anyway, like I said, I'm not surprised by him changing his vote to yes and was actually surprised when he voted no the first time. It would be like someone who was against abortion voting against the PBA ban at first because he thought it wasn't good enough and then turning around and voting for it after receiving pressure from the pro-life lobby to "take a bad bill over no bill". He was probably told "We'll keep pushing for a public option going forward, but if this thing dies now there will be no chance to try for anything like this again before you retire".

Am I disappointed? Yes. Surprised? No. If a liberty candidate won the GOP primary and challenged Kucinich would I support the liberty candidate? Definitely. Is there any chance of that happening? Unlikely. Am I still glad Kucinich supports audit the fed and will challenge his own party on the war issue? Most definitely.

 

[silus]

You seem to [support socialism]. Why else support this guy.

Ask yourself what specifically I was supporting Kucinich on. You're not going to think of anything because the subject was not about supporting Kucinich or his positions, it was about why people were surprised at his shift in position. You just keep getting dumber by the post. Seriously.

 

[pcosmar]

Ask yourself what specifically I was supporting Kucinich on. You're not going to think of anything because the subject was not about supporting Kucinich or his positions, it was about why people were surprised at his shift in position. You just keep getting dumber by the post. Seriously.

I have been wondering for 2 years why people keep on pushing him on these forums.
He has stated his positions. He is by definition a Collectivist. The Polar opposite of an Individualist.
He is a socialist. He has been working that agenda his entire time in office.
He spewed some story that you bought.

And because I never bought it, and was not surprised by this, You think I am lacking in intelligence.


your "logic" escapes me.

 

[silus]

I have been wondering for 2 years why people keep on pushing him on these forums.
He has stated his positions. He is by definition a Collectivist. The Polar opposite of an Individualist.
He is a socialist. He has been working that agenda his entire time in office.
He spewed some story that you bought.

And because I never bought it, and was not surprised by this, You think I am lacking in intelligence.


your "logic" escapes me.

I've never seen someone as ignorant as you attempt to educate others. Its actually quite entertaining. Its also pretty funny how after 2 years you still can't figure out that no one here agrees with Kucinich on social issues, but still see him as an ally on many other topics, including Ron Paul, which he stated himself on several occasions. Yet based on what you have stated here, you accusing me of being a socialist based on absolutely nothing, I'm wondering why you have not already accused Ron Paul of being a socialist. This is what happens when you just make shit up as you go along. The way you form opinions is not sustainable.

You seriously should stop posting. Most people use messageboards as a way to educate themselves and spread the little they know. You use what little you know to educate others.

 

[jmdrake]

I've never seen someone as ignorant as you attempt to educate others. Its actually quite entertaining. Its also pretty funny how after 2 years you still can't figure out that no one here agrees with Kucinich on social issues, but still see him as an ally on many other topics, including Ron Paul, which he stated himself on several occasions.

So if you really understand this, then why are you surprised that Kucinich decided to vote "yes" on this social issue that most of us disagree with him on? He didn't vote no the first time because he was against universal healthcare. He just didn't like this particular version. The pressure from his own constituents to take this bill as being "better than nothing" must have been enormous. I'm not at all surprised that he changed his vote. Also the first time Pelosi had enough votes to pass it without him. This time things are much more dicey for her. I appreciate the issues where he's good. I was pleasantly surprised that he voted no the first time. But to jump on people who are "not surprised" at a yes vote makes no sense.

 

[.Tom]

Even though I disagree with Dennis "socialist gun banner" Kucinich on a lot of issues, and could never support him, he was good on some liberty issues and was at least principled in some regards.

But now he's proven he is a 100% insurance company sucking sellout corporate whore.

I never trusted the guy to be honest, and this just shows why.

 

[Juan McCain]

http://www.cspan.org/Watch/Media/2010/03/17/HP/A/30752/Rep+Dennis+Kucinich+DOH+Press+Conference+on+Health+Care+Vote.aspx

Obama on Air Force One : Ya' know Dennis I really need this . . . and btw, I was thinking of getting rid of Joe Biden for the second term . . .
Delaware is such a small state compared to Ohio - I'll need you on the ticket Dennis if Ron Paul is the GOP opponent in 2012 . . . "

Kucinich (thinking) : Vice-President of the United States Dennis Kucinich . . . my job to sell the President's policies . . . hmmm.

 

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

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