Creating a Free Town or County

[tod evans]

Talking to my neighbor yesterday......

There's a community in Tx. that's all about preserving the old ways, smithing, carpentry, hunting, farming,food/storage etc. He said they were several thousand strong already and his daughter and her husband were moving next month...

Given my knowledge of the family there's a strong Christian bend to the association but I don't see that as a bad thing...

If anybody is curious I'll try and remember to get more details?

 

[Jesse James]

Talking to my neighbor yesterday......

There's a community in Tx. that's all about preserving the old ways, smithing, carpentry, hunting, farming,food/storage etc. He said they were several thousand strong already and his daughter and her husband were moving next month...

Given my knowledge of the family there's a strong Christian bend to the association but I don't see that as a bad thing...

If anybody is curious I'll try and remember to get more details?

let's hear it

 

[tod evans]

let's hear it

I've given you what I remember of our conversation. I'll try to remember to get more details next time we talk..

 

[Jesse James]

I've given you what I remember of our conversation. I'll try to remember to get more details next time we talk..

thanks!

 

[Origanalist]

Again I would vote for somewhere in the Midwest/Northwest.... flyover country, as it were.

Confining oneself to the jam-packed northeast was never a smart move. I think enough liberty lovers already live in various places in the center of the country and would more easily relocate to a more centered destination than NH. Hell there's already a massive liberty/prepper community called the American Redoubt. If there were an organized effort to have a freestateproject in the mid/northwest??? Shit you'd have massive influence over the entire state before too long. States like Wyoming, Idaho, etc have very small populations and LOOOOOOOOTS OF LAND.

Northern Idaho is really nice country. And close enough I would seriously consider plopping some money down on a place, I could commute until I established enough connections to get by there.

 

[Jesse James]

Liechtenstein is the best choice

 

[Matt Collins]

 

[helmuth_hubener]

If there is enough interest, perhaps we can convince Bryan, the site owner, to set us up a little sub-section where we can talk and build a community.

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So the first step is to gauge the feasibility by trying to find as many people as possible who are so sick of not having liberty and committed to getting liberty that they are willing to uproot themselves and relocate. Then we can gather together here as like-minded individuals and take stock of the situation.

So.... what should we talk about?

Let's keep the conversation going! What would be interesting, let's see..... well, as long as we're thinking about moving, what goes right along with that is housing. You'll have to live somewhere in the new place.

What would be your ideal home?

Something like this, perhaps?

 

[helmuth_hubener]

Yes, though I imagine he did it satirically with tongue firmly in cheek, the video-maker actually does give a fairly grounded, logical framework for how to go about starting your own country.

I own the book How to Start Your Own Country and it is good as well.

Lonely Planet's Travel Guide to Micronations is a riot and you can see how actual people have actually done it, both successfully and otherwise.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

I'm in but it has to be in the South or Alaska

Would you rule out the west?

 

[reduen]

I live in northern Arkansas and my son and I have talked about buying a town for just this purpose. I would be up for something like this but I couldn't do this with a bunch of atheist who hate Christians. I can live and let live but my experience has been that atheists can not.

 

[tod evans]

I've given you what I remember of our conversation. I'll try to remember to get more details next time we talk..

thanks!

I spoke to the neighbor and remembered to ask...

http://www.homesteadheritage.com/

I skimmed the site, lotsa good ideas but the Anabaptist doctrine kind of leaves me out....

I'm 100% down with the self sustainability and craftsmanship though....

 

[tod evans]

So.... what should we talk about?

Let's keep the conversation going! What would be interesting, let's see..... well, as long as we're thinking about moving, what goes right along with that is housing. You'll have to live somewhere in the new place.

What would be your ideal home?

Something like this, perhaps?

My tools currently occupy 4000 feet.........And I need a bed/shower and kitchen.

Otherwise Hell Yeah!

 

[Origanalist]

So.... what should we talk about?

Let's keep the conversation going! What would be interesting, let's see..... well, as long as we're thinking about moving, what goes right along with that is housing. You'll have to live somewhere in the new place.

What would be your ideal home?

Something like this, perhaps?

That, is camping.

 

[MallsRGood]

Trying to get control of local government is worthwhile, but the gains for liberty are going to be quite small - and quite possibly not worth the cost of a big migration. Most of our oppression is at the hands of the federal government and the states, and one can't meaningfully escape that just by controlling an inferior government. Local governments are creatures of the states, to be altered or abolished as they please. Even if present laws allow substantial autonomy, those laws can be changed - and will be once the authorities realize what's happening.

I'm not saying don't try to do this, but have realistic expectations.

If the goal is to live among like minded people, have a certain local culture, do cooperative prepping, etc great.

If the goal is to actually free yourself from the oppressive laws of this country, you're going to be disappointed.

For the latter to be realistic, you'd have to at least control a state, and even then gains would be limited (see: 1861-65).

 

[Jesse James]

Would you rule out the west?

if it is worth it i would not rule out anywhere.

 

[Jesse James]

I live in northern Arkansas and my son and I have talked about buying a town for just this purpose. I would be up for something like this but I couldn't do this with a bunch of atheist who hate Christians. I can live and let live but my experience has been that atheists can not.

in 10 years I will hit you up, my girlfriend and I will be buying an old plantation home in the South and we are as Christian as it gets. we could make good neighbors

 

[helmuth_hubener]

If the goal is to actually free yourself from the oppressive laws of this country, you're going to be disappointed.

Nay, it is you who will be very, very surprised.

If I manage to round up 1,000 high-quality, moral, principled people, and we move, you don't even know how huge that is. And yes, the initial expectations are going to be modest and reasonable. But you would be very surprised what could be done and how much power a Sheriff has, along with a mayor, city council, county commission, etc., if all are highly intelligent, motivated, and on the same page. As well as patient and firmly determined.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

if it is worth it i would not rule out anywhere.

Yeah, same here.

I just asked because the west seems to be a popular choice with a lot of people here.

 

[Lamp]

That sounds delightful