Controlled Opposition - A must read for everyone in the liberty movement

acptulsa said:
Why are you here?

I'm a rugged individualist. I also go to work every day and do what is required of me. Why? Because that way I can accomplish more than I could do as a 'team of one'. If I am not helping, I get fired. The company cannot afford to let me freeload.

I will join a pack of wolves. I will not join a herd of sheep. And so long as the leadership of that pack of wolves leads where I want to go, I'll not undermine it.

Only those who would see us divided and useless would even consider trying to make us think that every effort at organization for the greater goal is a direct threat to our individuality.
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Well said, bro! ;)

InterestedParticipant is trying to create paranoia, division and isolation. Paranoid, isolated individuals are of little concern to the New World Order.

However, they do fear national organizations like the John Birch Society, that bring rugged individualists together to combat the New World Order.

There's ALWAYS great strength in organized numbers.
 
InterestedParticipant said:
Yup, the New American is spot-on when it says that Korea is perpetrating the current cyber attacks. Yup, that's one we should believe!
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And you have proof that the North Koreans weren't involved? Note I haven't read this "New American" article you're referring to. I have seen this in the MSM though.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/10/technology/10cyber.html?hpw

I do know that North Korea is a criminal regime with some technical sophistication. I do know that they once kidnapped Japanese citizens just to see what Japan was like. (Why not just visit Japan?) I know this because North Korea admitted it! So right now the "New American" is sounding a LOT more credible than you.

This is how gatekeeping is done, it obfuscates the real perpetrators....hides the real enemy.
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Funny. But that seems to be exactly what YOU are doing! Newt Gingrich is obviously no fan of liberty shown by his cutting a "global warming" commercial with Nancy Pelosi. And yet at a tea party with a primary focus of protesting the recently past cap and trade bill we have a speech played by Newt! I'm not blaming the organizers for this. Well....maybe I am. But I'm not blaming the many well intentioned people who came. But the fact is that we can't afford to sit idly by and allow people like Newt to co-opt a movement that began while Bush was still president.

This is why Griffin couldn't publish Dodd's interview until after the Communist threat was dismantled and the need for that dialectic muted. And that is why the New American is hiding the real perpetrators of these cyber attacks, so that our illusions remain intact.
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:rolleyes: And I'm sure you have documentation of who these real perps are?
 
InterestedParticipant has lost all credibility, if he ever had any to begin with. ;)

One poster after the other just keeps exposing his numerous brazen lies and self-contradictions.
 
jmdrake said:
Oh. Found the article New American Article. Looks like you lied mr. "InterestedParticipant". The New American may no claim on who actually launched the attack but only raised the question (raised by many others) if it came from North Korea.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/tech-mainmenu-30/computers/1379

Note, even if North Korea was involved that doesn't mean others weren't as well.
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Correct.

I would like to point out that The New American shows how the United States wants the new Cybersecurity bill passed:

New Cybersecurity Regime Proposed
Ann Shibler | The New American
09 April 2009
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/tech-mainmenu-30/computers/983


Now, very conveniently, the United States is attacked on the Internet!


Cyber Attacks Originating With North Korea?
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/tech-mainmenu-30/computers/1379


On top of that. Jay Rockefeller says: "Internet should have never been invented"

YouTube - Jay Rockefeller "Internet should have never been invented"
 
InterestedParticipant is playing the same game the Media did by trying to link Ron Paul with Neo-Nazis. Remember Don Black's donation to the Ron Paul campaign?

Exact same game.
 
RonneJJones said:
Is it Conservative and Christian to openly and repeatedly call someone a liar? I've never seen this in this forum. Are you attempting to claim the moral high ground here?
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When someone is spreading false information, it's your duty to correct that person.
 
RonneJJones said:
Is it Conservative and Christian to openly and repeatedly call someone a liar? I've never seen this in this forum. Are you attempting to claim the moral high ground here?
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Huh?
There is nothing Un Christian about calling someone that lies a lier.
Christ himself rebuked those that were dishonest.
 
RonneJJones said:
Is it Conservative and Christian to openly and repeatedly call someone a liar? I've never seen this in this forum. Are you attempting to claim the moral high ground here?
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I PROVED that he is a liar on pages 20 and 21 of this thread, to anybody who wishes to research it.

It's ALWAYS "Conservative and Christian" to tell the TRUTH, which I have.

And if you've "never seen" anybody on this forum repeatedly called a liar before, then I must presume you have very little reading comprehension.

People being called a "liar" is pretty common on this forum, and for that matter, MULTIPLE other individuals in this thread have called InterestedParticipant a liar.

Thus your whining is irrelevant. Now PLEASE try to stay on thread topic.

Thank you!
 
RonneJJones said:
Is it Conservative and Christian to openly and repeatedly call someone a liar? I've never seen this in this forum. Are you attempting to claim the moral high ground here?
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Hmmmmm...what would Jesus say in this situation? Here's a quote.

John 8:44 (New King James Version)

44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.

Ok. Jesus didn't call the pharisees liars. He called them children of satan and said satan was the liar. Much better. :D
 
pcosmar said:
I have a question Ronnie.
Are you a "Sock Puppet"?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=185385

You seem to appear , post and run.
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How dare you begin to attack me. Back off right now.

Just because this thread has turned into a mob, doesn't me it can attack anyone who enters the thread and doesn't join-in on the attack. As far as I am concerned, this thread has turned into a disgusting display, and the moderators have not only turned a blind eye, they have fed into the mob feeding frenzy.

This is precisely why I choose to stay away from groups, the group think and mob behavior that develops just sickens me. If people want to see where they want to take us next, well here it is.
 
RonneJJones said:
How dare you begin to attack me. Back off right now.

Just because this thread has turned into a mob, doesn't me it can attack anyone who enters the thread and doesn't join-in on the attack. As far as I am concerned, this thread has turned into a disgusting display, and the moderators have not only turned a blind eye, they have fed into the mob feeding frenzy.

This is precisely why I choose to stay away from groups, the group think and mob behavior that develops just sickens me. If people want to see where they want to take us next, well here it is.
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^The sockpuppet has returned! :p

InterestedParticipant has been PROVEN to be a liar, REPEATEDLY in this thread. He has made NUMEROUS SERIOUS charges that he has been totally unable to prove---and I have PERSONALLY destroyed MANY of his false claims.

People who make false claims, WILL be denounced. That's human nature. If a white person committed a crime and attempted to blame it on a black person, but the white person's guilt was eventually discovered, he would be denounced by many. Plain and simple.

If you don't like to associate with groups, fine! Run along, lad! Nobody's making you stay here. Nobody's making you post here.

And NOBODY would be denouncing InterestedParticipant, if he hadn't been caught telling so many lies, and trying to smear an honorable patriotic group that has been in the freedom fight for 50 years.

An individual of dubious intent like yourself, comes into a thread very late, blindly defending an individual who has REPEATEDLY been PROVEN to be LYING. Then you have the nerve to wonder why you're being denounced. :rolleyes:
 
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RonneJJones said:
How dare you begin to attack me. Back off right now.

Just because this thread has turned into a mob, doesn't me it can attack anyone who enters the thread and doesn't join-in on the attack. As far as I am concerned, this thread has turned into a disgusting display, and the moderators have not only turned a blind eye, they have fed into the mob feeding frenzy.

This is precisely why I choose to stay away from groups, the group think and mob behavior that develops just sickens me. If people want to see where they want to take us next, well here it is.
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You're a real drama queen! :D

InterestedParticipant [IP] has NOT been threatened in any way. Nobody has told IP he can no longer participate in this thread. Nobody has used vulgar language toward IP.

The moderators haven't intervened, because there haven't been any significant rules violations in this thread.

You come into a thread attempting to defend a proven liar and smear artist, then have the gall to wonder why you are also being denounced.

What's really happening is that your compatriot InterestedParticipant is taking it on the chin here, and you're here to help him try to save face. Sorry friend, but it's way too late for that! :)

Your attempt to stifle free speech/discussion in this thread has been duly noted, and soundly rejected.
 
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