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[InterestedParticipant]

The New American brings up this point that American wants a Cybersecurity bill passed. Now conveniently we're having Internet attacks.

The New American has already exposed these facts.


New Cybersecurity Regime Proposed

Ann Shibler | The New American
09 April 2009

http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/tech-mainmenu-30/computers/983

But the illusions of an external threat are maintained. They must bee maintained at all costs. No one can be allowed to break the paradigm, and see the system in its entirety. That's called Gatekeeping.

It's was they did with the Communist threat... oppose it in order to keep the manufactured dialectic alive and well while controlling right-wing patriots who were the greatest threat to the elite's plot.

 

[FrankRep]

The quote stated that Nelson Rockefeller arranged for the purchase of the Welch Candy company at an inflated price so that the startup of JBS could be funded. According to Moody's Manual, two of [Nabisco's] directors were Roy E. Tomlinson and Don. G. Mitchell. [Both are] members of the Council on Foreign Relations. Further, they are a pair of Rockefeller's "professional directors.

Does anyone here really believe that these directors would act on their own, without Nelson Rockefellers direction on a matter such as the acquisition of a company. The Welch brothers were given $10,800,000, when it is reported that the business was worth approximately $200,000.

I would like to see the financials.

 

[pcosmar]

The Welch brothers were given $10,800,000, when it is reported that the business was worth approximately $200,000.

They sold it too cheap.
I still like Sugar Babies.

Those candies are sold in nearly every theater in the country and at premium prices.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Now, that is very encouraging.

So, should I assume that you've followed up the many leads that I've referred to in this thread, that you've done your own research and haven't relied solely on what anyone has said in this thread?

Dude, if you don't mind me asking you, how old are you? You're acting like someone who has just discovered some of what has been going on for many years. There are some of us here who have known about this stuff, although we're always learning, since before others were an itch in their daddy's pants.

 

[InterestedParticipant]

I would like to see the financials.

Ask JBS exec team for them. I would expect that they would want to be full disclosure on such a critical issue.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Ask JBS exec team for them. I would expect that they would want to be full disclosure on such a critical issue.

You're the one who made the claim, dude.

 

[InterestedParticipant]

Dude, if you don't mind me asking you, how old are you? You're acting like someone who has just discovered some of what has been going on for many years. There are some of us here who have known about this stuff, although we're always learning, since before others were an itch in their daddy's pants.

So, to all those that are passively viewing this thread I hope you are seeing and understanding the pressure one comes under when they truly attempt to exercise their individuality and resist all pressures to be subsumed into a group. Can you see all the various tactics that are in play to mute the individual's voice, it is quite astonishing. Why are these pressures there, why are they so severe? These are the questions to ask oneself?

How does one maintain the libertarian value system, of rugged individualism, in a society that attempts to co-opt everyone into a group framework, where everyone's thinking must agree, where no one is able to have a unique opinion without ridicule and threats against them?

I sincerely hope people are seeing this. For this is what you will have to fight against if you really wish to maintain liberty, not simply some illusion of liberty that is constructed for you by others.

 

[InterestedParticipant]

You're the one who made the claim, dude.

No, I was referring to other's claims (ie. Moody's Manual, Candy Industry, Mulllins, et. al.)

The point here is to learn to do your own research. Stop being lazy and expecting me to serve-up every angle of every argument to you on a silver platter.

 

[ramallamamama]

It's a veritable 'coming out' party for controlled opposition.

 

[Conservative Christian]

InterestedParticipant=Eustace Mullins fanboy

nuff said

BINGO!

Eustace Mullins was a radical anti-semite and racist, as well as CONTROLLED OPPOSITION against the New World Order.

InterestedParticipant and his beloved Mullins are CONTROLLED OPPOSITION against the New World Order, trying to attack legitimate anti-New World Order groups like the John Birch Society.

In 1968, Mullins authored a tract entitled The Biological Jew (Staunton, Va., Faith and Service Books, Aryan League of America, 1968). The tract includes the following statement about Nazi antisemitism:

"Nazism is simply this — a proposal that the German people rid themselves of the parasitic Jews. The gentile host dared to protest against the continued presence of the parasite, and attempted to throw it off."

The book also claims that Jews "drink the blood of an innocent gentile child" in religious ceremonies, and that this practice represents the essence of Judaism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eustace_Mullins#Antisemitism:_evidence_and_allegations

 

[LibertyEagle]

So, to all those that are passively viewing this thread I hope you are seeing and understanding the pressure one comes under when they truly attempt to exercise their individuality and resist all pressures to be subsumed into a group. Can you see all the various tactics that are in play to mute the individual's voice, it is quite astonishing. Why are these pressures there, why are they so severe? These are the questions to ask oneself?

How does one maintain the libertarian value system, of rugged individualism, in a society that attempts to co-opt everyone into a group framework, where everyone's thinking must agree, where no one is able to have a unique opinion without ridicule and threats against them?

I sincerely hope people are seeing this. For this is what you will have to fight against if you really wish to maintain liberty, not simply some illusion of liberty that is constructed for you by others.

This is almost getting funny. You are employing the very same tactics that you are accusing these organizations of using. Do you not even see that?

 

[acptulsa]

So, to all those that are passively viewing this thread I hope you are seeing and understanding the pressure one comes under when they truly attempt to exercise their individuality and resist all pressures to be subsumed into a group. Can you see all the various tactics that are in play to mute the individual's voice, it is quite astonishing. Why are these pressures there, why are they so severe? These are the questions to ask oneself?

How does one maintain the libertarian value system, of rugged individualism, in a society that attempts to co-opt everyone into a group framework, where everyone's thinking must agree, where no one is able to have a unique opinion without ridicule and threats against them?

I sincerely hope people are seeing this. For this is what you will have to fight against if you really wish to maintain liberty, not simply some illusion of liberty that is constructed for you by others.

Why are you here?

I'm a rugged individualist. I also go to work every day and do what is required of me. Why? Because that way I can accomplish more than I could do as a 'team of one'. If I am not helping, I get fired. The company cannot afford to let me freeload.

I will join a pack of wolves. I will not join a herd of sheep. And so long as the leadership of that pack of wolves leads where I want to go, I'll not undermine it.

Only those who would see us divided and useless would even consider trying to make us think that every effort at organization for the greater goal is a direct threat to our individuality.

 

[ScoutsHonor]

So, to all those that are passively viewing this thread I hope you are seeing and understanding the pressure one comes under when they truly attempt to exercise their individuality and resist all pressures to be subsumed into a group. Can you see all the various tactics that are in play to mute the individual's voice, it is quite astonishing. Why are these pressures there, why are they so severe? These are the questions to ask oneself?

How does one maintain the libertarian value system, of rugged individualism, in a society that attempts to co-opt everyone into a group framework, where everyone's thinking must agree, where no one is able to have a unique opinion without ridicule and threats against them?

I sincerely hope people are seeing this. For this is what you will have to fight against if you really wish to maintain liberty, not simply some illusion of liberty that is constructed for you by others.

Whoa! He's just saying "don't patronize me" with your mentoring, er, mode - otherwise LE seems quite open-minded so far..

We ain't all against ya...

Now back to the topic, I hope.

 

[Conservative Christian]

Nelson Rockefeller's Nabisco Company bought James O. Welch's Candy Company. James O. Welch is Robert Welch's brother.

FrankRep is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

The Welch Candy Company was owned and controlled by Robert Welch's brother, James. Robert Welch NEVER owned or controlled it. James didn't share Robert's political interests.

The New World Order disinformation agent InterestedParticipant, is simply parroting the phony and disproven claim of the radical anti-semite, racist and New World Order disinformation agent, Eustace Mullins.

 

[Conservative Christian]

This is almost getting funny. You are employing the very same tactics that you are accusing these organizations of using. Do you not even see that?

Of course he sees it. InterestedParticipant is a New World Order disinformation agent. He's the very controlled opposition against the New World Order that he claims the JBS to be.

However, he's definitely one of the least sophisticated NWO disinfo agents I've ever seen.

 

[FrankRep]

But the illusions of an external threat are maintained. They must bee maintained at all costs. No one can be allowed to break the paradigm, and see the system in its entirety. That's called Gatekeeping.

It's was they did with the Communist threat... oppose it in order to keep the manufactured dialectic alive and well while controlling right-wing patriots who were the greatest threat to the elite's plot.

In the beginning of the JBS, late 50's, they viewed Communism to be the threat. As the JBS started to research deeper and become more experienced, they found out how the issue reached deeper than what anybody realized. Communism is just a tentacle and realized how so called "Capitalists" were subsidizing Communism and this fight isn't about ideology. Left-wing vs. Right-wing, Conservative vs. Liberal, for example, for meaningless words just to divide people.

You keep pointing to the early JBS before they had 10-20-50 years worth of research. Any experienced JBS member knows this issue goes Way beyond Communism.

 

[Conservative Christian]

The John Birch Society was the first national conservative organization to expose the world government-promoting Council on Foreign Relations, with the publication of Dan Smoot's book The Invisible Government in 1962.

Robert Welch and the John Birch Society have openly declared since the early 1960's, that there is a conspiracy ABOVE communism, and that communism is merely a tentacle of what Welch termed "The Master Conspiracy".

New World Order disinformation agent InterestedParticipant = MONUMENTAL FAIL.

 

[Conservative Christian]

In the beginning of the JBS, late 50's, they viewed Communism to be the threat. As the JBS started to research deeper and become more experienced, they found out how the issue reached deeper than what anybody realized. Communism is just a tentacle and realized how so called "Capitalists" were subsidizing Communism and this fight isn't about ideology. Left-wing vs. Right-wing, Conservative vs. Liberal, for example, for meaningless words just to divide people.

You keep pointing to the early JBS before they had 10-20-50 years worth of research. Any experienced JBS member knows this issue goes Way beyond Communism.

FrankRep nailed it! I couldn't have said it much better myself.

The John Birch Society sold and distributed SEVERAL MILLION copies of JBS member Gary Allen's 1971 classic None Dare Call It Conspiracy, which exposed the conspiracy of the so-called "Capitalists" who founded, funded and controlled the international communist movement and the Soviet Union.

Can the New World Order disinformation agent InterestedParticipant get ANYTHING right?!

 

[InterestedParticipant]

This is almost getting funny. You are employing the very same tactics that you are accusing these organizations of using. Do you not even see that?

Why are you attempting to making this thread about me? This seems to be a continual pattern on your part. I am not a membership organization with thousands of members and a magazine. I don't think anyone here could care less about me. The point of this thread is Controlled Opposition and how to identify them, and the focus is on one particular group... a case study if you will.

But if you must redirect everyone's attention to one forum member, the please spell it out for the audience. Yet, before you do, I want to to repeat that I have continually called for people to do their own research, to do their own homework, to come to their own individual opinions and to resist the pressures of groups. I don't hear anyone delivering that message, especially groups who's survival is based upon their membership.

I even have referred people to the methods that groups use, and posted information on how the group dynamic works (Tavistock Method is one example). Groups or member based organizations can't and won't do this, for it is in their own disinterest.

Individuality is the antithesis of these groups, no matter what position these groups are espousing. This is very different message than the message that any group is distributing.

In fact, I've been ridiculed in this thread repeatedly, even called a lier because I refuse to spoon-feed people all of the details and refute every small point. I want people to search for answers on their own. I want people to tough-it through the maze of information and engage in independent critical thinking in an effort to come to their own opinion, one they've developed outside of group influences.

So, with that frame of reference on the table, please tell the audience what it is that I am doing. Something that you must disrespect so much that you call into question my age and attack me as merely amusing.

Again folks, looks at one must endure. Burn this into your brain and determine for yourself if you are adult enough to handle the pressure of assimilation when it hits you.

 

[InterestedParticipant]

Whoa! He's just saying "don't patronize me" with your mentoring, er, mode - otherwise LE seems quite open-minded so far..

We ain't all against ya...

Now back to the topic, I hope.

ummm.... he's got the JBS url in his signature block.... you call that open minded? I'd call it vectored.

I've got to step away for the weekend, please feel free to talk amongst yourselves. Let me know when someone breaks free from the dialectic. We're getting close to a break through moment for our advanced participants. It's traumatic, but you'll survive it when it comes.