Controlled Opposition - A must read for everyone in the liberty movement

[LibertyEagle]

Well, they did do a lot of what you say you wished they had done. I know they did, because of the books I have in my library and what I was taught by my parents.

 

[FrankRep]

However, I will counter by suggesting that one ask themselves why has the JBS not fully covered this topic? The JBS has been in existing for 50 years, and they certainly would be able to assemble the resources and knowledge to educate their membership fully on the techniques being employed, as Tavistock and the Frankfurt Schools have been in existing since the early 1900's and these methods have been publicly know since before JBS' founding.

InterestedParticipant, have actually read every topic the JBS has ever written and given presentations about? They have decades and decades if information gathered that isn't on the Internet. That takes a large amount of manpower.

Are you volunteering to write some articles for the JBS?

 

[Deborah K]

InterestedParticipant, your repeated attacks and accusations on everyone with no proof leads me to believe you're just a trouble maker.

No, he's not a trouble maker, he's enlightened and we're all ignorant and stuck in our caves.

This guy is dishonest. He accuses Griffin of giving a "pathetic" public response but provides no evidence of the so-called response.

He continues to accuse Griffin of being controlled opposition never giving any proof, just making statements like this:

Withholding perhaps one of the most important interviews of the 20th Century for 20 years is simply not something anyone with good intentions would do. I think even the most Cave-indoctrinated member of society can see that. I did not do this, Griffin did this, and he apparently did it on his own. I'm not sure why anyone here would excuse such behavior, other than those who also have mal-intentions.

So now I have mal-intentions. Any proof of this? Of course not. If anyone has mal-intentions it's this guy. He comes on threads like this one accusing Griffin and JBS of being controlled opposition with no proof other than his repetitive "you have to figure it out for yourself" responses.

Like I wrote before, that makes about as much sense as a prosecutor expecting the jury to come up with the evidence that the accused is guilty.

As long as he continues to accuse Griffin of being controlled opposition, without evidence, I'll go after him for it. Someone needs to stand up to this bullsh&t. Prove your claim or stfu.

 

[InterestedParticipant]

InterestedParticipant, have actually read every topic the JBS has ever written and given presentations about? They have decades and decades if information gathered that isn't on the Internet. That takes a large amount of manpower.

Are you volunteering to write some articles for the JBS?

I refuse to participate in COINTEL run operations, no matter how appealing they make themselves appear to the public.

 

[FrankRep]

I refuse to participate in COINTEL run operations, no matter how appealing they make themselves appear to the public.

Fine. Name some organizations that aren't COINTEL.

 

[Deborah K]

Fine. Name some organizations that aren't COINTEL.

What I don't get Frank, is why he thinks people and organizations like JBS and Griffin, who were at the forefront in alerting people to the Fed, the SPP, the CFR, etc. can possibly be counter intelligence? I wonder if he thinks Ron Paul is C.O. since Dr. Paul has been railing on the Fed, NAFTA, etc. for many years.

I'm having a tin-foil hat moment.........what if turning the American people against the Fed was designed to eventually abolish it so that tptb can install the IMF in its place?

 

[diggronpaul]

What I don't get Frank, is why he thinks people and organizations like JBS and Griffin, who were at the forefront in alerting people to the Fed, the SPP, the CFR, etc. can possibly be counter intelligence? I wonder if he thinks Ron Paul is C.O. since Dr. Paul has been railing on the Fed, NAFTA, etc. for many years.

I'm having a tin-foil hat moment.........what if turning the American people against the Fed was designed to eventually abolish it so that tptb can install the IMF in its place?

I've been watching this thread with interest, and have resisted the urge to post. But on this one (in red), Deb deserves the Gold Star!

Do we have Gold Stars on RPF? If not, then we need to get them and start passing them out, because this revelation should be recognized and rewarded. It is not easy for one to get to this point in their thinking, and it shows great progress.

Congratulations!

 

[Carole]

Here is an article from JBS regarding the NAU: http://www.thenewamerican.com/world...-35/1061-eu-us-integration-unattractive-union

In the Oct. 02, 2006 issue of their magazine: The New American, several articles were written on the North American Union. There used to be a pdf file for it but I can't seem to locate it. However, I have that particular issue in front of me.

I would say that JBS has done an excellent job of getting the word out about the NAU over the past few years. I would also say that Dr. Paul seems to support them as well as can be seen here:

http://cspanjunkie.org/?p=849

Good article but it is date April of this year. The horse has been out of the barn for nearly two decades!!!!!! It is nie to have a recent article in their magazine, but how large is therireadership. They are certainly preaching to the choir there. Did they reach a few thousand subscribers?

I am talking about the need to inform for the past twenty years, especially the past fifteen years. What did they have to say about NAFTA in the nineties?

ETC.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Good article but it is date April of this year. The horse has been out of the barn for nearly two decades!!!!!! It is nie to have a recent article in their magazine, but how large is therireadership. They are certainly preaching to the choir there. Did they reach a few thousand subscribers?

I am talking about the need to inform for the past twenty years, especially the past fifteen years. What did they have to say about NAFTA in the nineties?

ETC.

They've been railing against world government, the NAU, the NAFTA superhighway, the managed trade agreements, etc. from the very beginning. In fact, they were talking about the plans for regionalization YEARS before the NAU ever was a blip in the MSM.

 

[LibertyEagle]

What I don't get Frank, is why he thinks people and organizations like JBS and Griffin, who were at the forefront in alerting people to the Fed, the SPP, the CFR, etc. can possibly be counter intelligence? I wonder if he thinks Ron Paul is C.O. since Dr. Paul has been railing on the Fed, NAFTA, etc. for many years.

I'm having a tin-foil hat moment.........what if turning the American people against the Fed was designed to eventually abolish it so that tptb can install the IMF in its place?

Yup. My thoughts exactly. In fact, the JBS recently had an article about this. As I recall, Frank posted it here.

 

[Carole]

No offense Frank Rep, but you need to reach the masses, not just the choir. An article in your magazine is not going to do that.

 

[Carole]

I'm having a tin-foil hat moment.........what if turning the American people against the Fed was designed to eventually abolish it so that tptb can install the IMF in its place?

Wow! Excellent point!!!

So, abolishing the FED could not happen in a vacuum; it must be accompanied by a return to Congress of the power to mint money (hence our sovereignty) and by something (not necessarily the gold standard), that is designed to back our coin. Naturally, this would also demand that Congress can no longer spend freely because they would again be required to either tax for expenditures or show other manner of funding for their programs.

Hence, no more free lunch for Congress and they would again have to answer to the people. Smaller government would have to ensue.

In the meantime, the president is destroying our economy in order to make way for loss of sovereignty and world banking system, NAU, socio-fascism, loss of private property, etc........

 

[LibertyEagle]

No offense Frank Rep, but you need to reach the masses, not just the choir. An article in your magazine is not going to do that.

It's not his magazine.

What are you saying? They're just ONE of the organizations out there that are trying to spread the word. Just like us, they're made up of people. If we keep waiting for the leadership of some grand organization to do all our work for us, then I think we'll be waiting a very long time. If we want the word spread, WE are going to have to do it. We can join up with these organizations and do it through them, or we can do it on our own. But, DO IT, we must.

 

[FrankRep]

I'm having a tin-foil hat moment.........what if turning the American people against the Fed was designed to eventually abolish it so that tptb can install the IMF in its place?

Yup. My thoughts exactly. In fact, the JBS recently had an article about this. As I recall, Frank posted it here.

Here it is.

Confirmed: International Monetary Fund (IMF) set to be the World's Federal Reserve!
The G20 Push to "Supersize" the IMF

William F. Jasper | The New American
06 March 2009

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=182725

 

[InterestedParticipant]

Here it is.

Confirmed: International Monetary Fund (IMF) set to be the World's Federal Reserve!
The G20 Push to "Supersize" the IMF

And who wrote and published the book that started this slide of public discontent toward the FED? A book that was published in 1994, only 1-year before GATT was passed and the mass exodus of American business began and the Global Economy took hold.

Think people, Think? Connect the dots.

 

[moostraks]

I've been watching this thread with interest, and have resisted the urge to post. But on this one (in red), Deb deserves the Gold Star!

Do we have Gold Stars on RPF? If not, then we need to get them and start passing them out, because this revelation should be recognized and rewarded. It is not easy for one to get to this point in their thinking, and it shows great progress.

Congratulations!

This is definately a case of be careful what you wish for...Playing chess means setting up your opponent to lose no matter where he turns and these folks aren't stupid.

 

[InterestedParticipant]

They've been railing against world government, the NAU, the NAFTA superhighway, the managed trade agreements, etc. from the very beginning. In fact, they were talking about the plans for regionalization YEARS before the NAU ever was a blip in the MSM.

NAU has always been just a cover story for the moves to World Government. It's a diversion.

Download the pdf timeline that someone posted in this thread. Notice how the GATT treaty is missing from that timeline. That was deliberate, because GATT supports a move toward World Government and NOT a move toward a NAU. These guys have been chumping you, making it look like they're fighting the good fight by fighting cardboard cutouts, just like the Brits used to do to the Germans in WWII with their cardboard planes on the ground. Same game.

The controllers setup fake threats, and the fake-opposition fights the fake threats to make them seem real.... all along the public goes along thinking they are fighting the real threat and are being duped in the process.

I've posted references in other threads to the White House pushing for World Government in 1972 to top business leaders. I'm curious if that's ever been presented through these channels. I've also seen here the Carnagie 1934 plan to merge communism with capitalism.... has that been mentioned anywhere else? If not, ask yourself why you have not learned of these things from your so called reliable and trustworthy sources?

 

[Deborah K]

And who wrote and published the book that started this slide of public discontent toward the FED? A book that was published in 1994, only 1-year before GATT was passed and the mass exodus of American business began and the Global Economy took hold.

Think people, Think? Connect the dots.

Oh bur U ther!!! Are you going to now claim that there's nothing wrong with the Fed and that they're victims of Griffin's book the Creature??

 

[InterestedParticipant]

This is definately a case of be careful what you wish for...Playing chess means setting up your opponent to lose no matter where he turns and these folks aren't stupid.

They knew they were going to crash the FED no later than 1972, when the White House was publicly pushing for a Global Economy to major business leaders. Any material that got any public tractions (ie publicity) was propaganda to support this goal.

 

[Deborah K]

Here it is.

Confirmed: International Monetary Fund (IMF) set to be the World's Federal Reserve!
The G20 Push to "Supersize" the IMF

William F. Jasper | The New American
06 March 2009

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=182725

And here I thought I was having a tin foil hat moment! Actually, I wondered about this in this forum a while back. I'll look it up.

We'll need to head this off at the pass. If HR1207 passes, then Dr. Paul is going to need to expose this and present viable alternatives to abolishing the Fed. I plan on writing him about it and calling his office. I hope others will do the same. We have to make a concerted effort to prevent the IMF from taking over for the Fed.