Confirmed: PayPal sabotages New Hampshire vote recount

[tyler477]

Honestly how did this happen, where were the back up plans, as I said before it takes 3-4 days to transfer over to her bank account..

So clearly she should not have been soliciting funds a day before, without this being a sure project.

Simple as that..

EXACTLY! this is NOT paypal's fault is is the fault of the GRANNIES! if anyone should be sued it is them for their incompetence.

 

[Paulitical Correctness]

What's with the "deadline" anyway?

Raising this much money for a recount is very astonishing, for them to deny it because Paypal screwed up is bollocks.

I was neutral about the recount, but it's remarkable that people raised the money so quickly so I'm actually pretty PO'd.

 

[Cali4RonPaul]

Oh, reeeeally? And, why is that?

Yes it does it sets off red flags, Its in their algorithms.. Just as if you use your credit card to make a number of large purchases in a single day.. they can put a temporary freeze if its not in the normal pattern of use. They have the power.

 

[[email protected]]

oh wow, alots of pissed off folks here tomorrow. People will be claiming that the grannys should have known this, but yet no one else brought it up before it happened.

+9000

This is the most valid point I have seen so far.

 

[John Kimble]

Why are people getting upset?
Everyone knows DieBold (PES) is not trustworthy (OHIO 2004), and the attention gained from this only proves that multiple hand counts from trusted people is needed with no corporate intervention.
We cant trust a private corp with something as important as electing our president.
The money can always be used on the 21st.
Maybe even a check given in person to avoid any double fees.

 

[rs3515]

i was merely stating that the blame should NOT be put onto paypal as it was NOT paypals fault but the GRANNYS'.

sorry it was so hard for you to grasp that marc.

Does it make you feel better to have someone to blame? Remind me the next time you do something wrong so I can blame you.

Yes it is possible the grannys may not have made the right choice. But what were YOU doing in the past week to help them? Did you have a conversation with them to go over the rules, regulations and policies of PayPal's business practices? Yeah, I thought so.

 

[worldsupport]

Fuck you, you little twerp. These ladies are friends of Carol Paul (Ron's wife). Care to dis her, too? You need to learn some respect of others, especially older people.

The poetic justice is that PayPal fucked you over! So much much for your internet savvy - asshole.

Firey women rule!!!

 

[Cali4RonPaul]

More info:

PayPal Freeze out
We have sent off the money to a newly opened bank account in NH opened by the former Attorney General for this purpose. The funds left our account and we thought it was a done deal.

As soon as I sent out the message the money was on its way we received a big donation of $1000 and it got flagged as a suspicious entry.? below is the actual paypal notice:

Inquiry by PayPal - Case ID: PP-403-499-846
Status:Waiting For Seller's ResponseTransaction ID:00S01027UD303372FBuyer Name & Email:Jerjis Alajaji, [email protected]ransaction Amount:$1,000.00 USDTransaction Date:Jan. 15, 2008

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Anyway the money did not go to the new account it went back in my account. Now we hope to have it straight by in the morning and we can talk the Sec of state into accepting the money.

Bev Harris and L Landis were at the original meeting with Albert and Eric and said they were actually beligerent and demanding and really pissed off the SOS with their demands for computer parts being examined etc. They had already agreed to allow us to video the recount and were co operating until the BlackBox ladies showed up and demanded more and more. Albert said he hugged the SOS when they left and asked him to please not hold a grudge against us but he then demaded the money immediately before 3 PM. Hopefully we can get him to change his mind with some nice phone calls letting him know we are not accusing him of any fraud just we want to have our votes recounted.

* January 15 10:50pm

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That is the entire story. We did not meet the total amout we needed but I raided my account, my husbands account and our savings plus borrowed a few dollars to make up the difference since I knew we would meet the goals with the way you were all supporting this.

All the donations will be returned as soon as we can. There was some expenditures which we will have to figure out how to work out.. the air plane tickets, the filing fee $2,000 and hopefully a few dollars for Albert for his time and trouble. He is a working man and has lost some valuable work time due to this .

It may also be a smart thing to just keep this money aside in case we need it for Michigan or another state. this is definately not the end. Rose has already seen some misdeeds in Mi. The machines were broken and people were told to just put their ballots in a box and they would be run later when the machines were working again? sounds like something not right there too.

 

[danberkeley]

for all you conspiracy buffs!!!! paypal is owned by eBay, whose CEO is Meg Whitman. Meg Whitman was VP at Bain & Company. Mitt Romney was an executive at Bain & Company. HA!!!!

 

[worldsupport]

for all you conspiracy buffs!!!! paypal is owned by eBay, whose CEO is Meg Whitman. Meg Whitman was VP at Bain & Company. Mitt Romney was an executive at Bain & Company. HA!!!!

the plot thickens. WTF??

 

[CountryB4Party]

Yes it does it sets off red flags, Its in their algorithms.. Just as if you use your credit card to make a number of large purchases in a single day.. they can put a temporary freeze if its not in the normal pattern of use. They have the power.

So does your credit card company and the bank. This is SOP.

 

[jlaker]

I'd say wait and find out from the granny warrior the full details.

I say the samething but this crap makes it hard to sleep

 

[Swmorgan77]

Why do you say that?

I work for eBay, the company that owns Paypal though I don't work directly for Paypal. I agree that my instinct is this was some oversight of the Grannys. Until I know otherwise, I will lean in that direction. Having 55k go through an account could definitely set off red flags especially if it isn't a premiere business account. They should have been doing transfers on an hourly basis or several times daily.

Did they have a premium account? Did they realize transfers take 3-4 business days?

There are a lot of questions here.

 

[Marc3579]

I work for eBay, the company that owns Paypal though I don't work directly for Paypal. I agree that my instinct is this was some oversight of the Grannys. Until I know otherwise, I will lean in that direction. Having 55k go through an account could definitely set off red flags especially if it isn't a premiere business account. They should have been doing transfers on an hourly basis or several times daily.

Did they have a premium account? Did they realize transfers take 3-4 business days?

There are a lot of questions here.

They may not have known about that or they may have had another finical backer who backed out when they found out PayPal froze the account.

 

[JimInNY]

YES , but what does this have to do with people putting blame on paypal for the wrong reasons???? there is NO possible way for them to have gotten a money order the SAME day from a paypal acct. For them to think that was IRRESPONSIBLE and almost TREASONOUS to the campaign.

Did you donate?

 

[UK4Paul]

Hi Folks

After you guys and gals have finished bickering, I'd like to ask some valid questions and suggest a valid suggestion.

(1) How come someone wasn't ready with a check for the Secretary of State well before the deadline? After all, the Sec of State does not accept Paypal.

(2) Personally I think the money should be kept in case we need another recount somewhere else. Who agrees? (At least if we need a recount elsewhere, a check can be produced instantly )

I donated this money to this chipin with the specific purpose of acquiring a recount, so if it's not able to be used on this recount, I'd like it reserved in case this situation arises again.

 

[susano]

are you suggesting that Tyler acts like this girl?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzG_oHDLZdc

Oh, hahaha!

 

[Marc3579]

YES , but what does this have to do with people putting blame on paypal for the wrong reasons???? there is NO possible way for them to have gotten a money order the SAME day from a paypal acct. For them to think that was IRRESPONSIBLE and almost TREASONOUS to the campaign.

HaHaHa the campaign has spoken they weren't seeking a recount in NH. Care to try again?

 

[amy31416]

I don't care whose fault it is, I'm just very disappointed that there will not be a recount.

At least the Dems had it together to do one, right?

 

[CountryB4Party]

YES , but what does this have to do with people putting blame on paypal for the wrong reasons???? there is NO possible way for them to have gotten a money order the SAME day from a paypal acct. For them to think that was IRRESPONSIBLE and almost TREASONOUS to the campaign.

What makes you think my question had any relevance to the PayPal issue? I was quite concise with my statement of intent.