Confirmed: PayPal sabotages New Hampshire vote recount

[zakkubin]

P.S. to those of you talking about how they should have been transferring the money as it came in:

Well I did that when I sold my ps3's in my above story.

The problem is as you state it can take 4 days. Well paypal can actually retrieve that money right up until the point it's actually in your account.

So this may very well be the case here. The money was scattered in parts en route to an account but was ALL recalled back to pay pal.

 

[Agent CSL]

PayPal has a looooong history of doing this. I knew, sooner or later, a big fundraiser was going to be frozen on PayPal.

FYI, (I think) PayPal gets to keep all the money. =\

 

[Santana28]

wow...well... all i can say is this - if they had a way to fix the vote in NH, then i'm pretty sure they damned well had a way to "fix" the recount as well in place... otherwise they wouldn't have been so blatantly obvious about it.

but as i've said before - if they could guarantee the vote to be fixed in all 50 states, then they wouldn't be afraid of him in the first place. we must keep on.

 

[Cali4RonPaul]

It doesn't matter if you're transferring $5 or $500,000 from PayPal to your own account. It takes 3-4 business days for the funds to be transferred. Did someone assume it could be transferred the same day?

If you go to their site it is confirmed their paypal account is down.

Im glad I didnt send any funds to grandmothers. There is still a digital divide between the young and the old, no way im going to send a great grandma a paypal.

 

[rs3515]

I don't know. I would think they had that worked out with paypal.

I know of people who do thousands in transactions each week via PayPal. I've never heard of PayPal giving preferential treatment for someone getting funds faster than 3-4 days. That's a normal amount of time for an electronic funds transfer (ETF).

 

[jlaker]

WTF! I can not believe this Sh*t. Now what? F*CK Paypal

 

[Agent CSL]

www.paypalsucks.com

You were warned.

 

[worldsupport]

Did grannywarrior know that paypal takes 3-4 days? Let's not jump to judgement but it does suck for all who donated. Thankfully I did not. I would rather concentrate on donating to the campaign and billboards.

Let this be a lesson.

 

[tyler477]

it is NOT paypal's fault..... it is the grannys' fault.

 

[rs3515]

If you go to there site it is confirmed their paypal account is down.

Im glad I didnt send any funds to grandmothers. There is still a digital divide between the young and the old, no way im going to send a grandma a paypal.

Part of the issue too is the difference between a PayPal Standard and a PayPal Premium account. Premium accounts are for business owners and are more flexible about the transaction size. However you need a business EIN to do this and it takes at least 10 business days to set it up. I doubt "Granny Warriors" has incorporated.

If they were trying to clear $55,000 in one week via a standard account they should have known this would happen. It automatically sets off red flags for an individual account to have that type of funds transaction, as well it should.

 

[Marc3579]

I'd say wait and find out from the granny warrior the full details.

 

[susano]

So what is going to happen to everyone's money?!

That is FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS!!!!!!!

It will be refunded

 

[worldsupport]

it is NOT paypal's fault..... it is the grannys' fault.

Why do you say that?

 

[rs3515]

Did grannywarrior know that paypal takes 3-4 days? Let's not jump to judgement but it does suck for all who donated. Thankfully I did not. I would rather concentrate on donating to the campaign and billboards.

Let this be a lesson.

I'm sure they were just trying their best and probably didn't know the full details of how PayPal works. Yes, a lesson learned ... I just want to make sure people know using a title that says "PayPal sabotages NH vote recount" is really misleading.

 

[susano]

What is AFTF?

 

[electronicmaji]

we need to sue paypal about this....is there any hope for a recount left?

 

[JimInNY]

The email claims the account was frozen. That is a far cry from a 3 or 4 day delay in transfering funds.

I know when I withdraw funds from paypal, it tells me that my withdrawal was successful and my funds should be in my bank in 3 to 4 days.

My guess is that the ladies had a backup funder for the fees, and when they tried to withdraw the cash, they found the account frozen. The backup funder probably backed out on hearing the bad news. Of course that is my guess. I'm sure more info will follow.

I wonder though, could fraud have been involved? Could moles have made cntributions and then disputed charges to screw up the effort? hmmmm.....

 

[Cali4RonPaul]

Not only that but I deal with Paypal thousands of dollars a week sometimes for my BUSINESS.

The email for the paypal is definitely not like a business..

This means the cap for withdrawl is $500 a month!! for personal if the Granny didnt do the Expanded Use Program to it..

 

[rs3515]

Why do you say that?

Please don't be so negative toward the Granny Warriors. They were just trying their best to get the funds in time. The specifics of how PayPal accounts work can elude even the most tech and business savvy people unless you closely read the details.

 

[RonPaulFever]

An instant payment with PayPal is just that - instant. Unless the granny warriors used an eCheck, the funds should have been transferred immediately to the recipient. But whoever mentioned the nature and amount of transactions setting off a red flag - that's probably what happened.