Confirmed: PayPal sabotages New Hampshire vote recount

JimInNY

JimInNY

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Got this just now in an AFTF email from Cali AFTF:

Hello Volunteers!

On our California Conference Call earlier this evening, I mentioned that I had been
informed that the Granny Warriors' PayPal account had been frozen at the last minute
by PayPal and the freeze prevented the transfer of the fee for the New Hampshire
vote recount. I promised to verify this information and I have now done so.

I am informed directly by the Granny Warriors that PayPal did in fact freeze the
funds earmarked for the Recount Fees! So, now you know who to blame for the failure
to get a recount of the New Hampshire vote count. PayPal.
The application for a recount of the New Hampshire vote required a deposit of
$55,600 to the New Hampshire Secretary of State no later than 3:00 P.M. this
afternoon, January 15th. A huge and successful effort by the Granny Warriors raised
the money and they ordered the transfer to the Secretary. However, at the very last
moment, PayPal FROZE THE ACCOUNT and did not transfer the money. The deadline for
payment of the deposit passed and the recount application was rejected for lack of
payment.

Emergency efforts by our folks on the scene in New Hampshire to push the recount
through the Secretary's office were not successful and a lot of frustration has been
expressed on both sides as a result. The problem was not with the Secretary of State
for New Hampshire, it was with PayPal. I understand that the matter may remain
unresolved and a recount may still be possible. I am hoping for additional
information early Wednesday, January 16th.

I am sure that PayPal will have a lot of excuses, but lame excuses are not
acceptable under these circumstances.
Here is the PayPal contact URL:
https://investor.shareholder.com/paypal/contactus.cfm
(https://investor.shareholder.com/paypal/contactus.cfm)

Thank you to the Granny Warriors and to the others on the ground in New Hampshire
who went beyond the call of duty for the recount and a big BOO to PayPal. We should
remember who our friends are. And we should also remember which companies,
organizations and people act to oppose our fight for Liberty and Self-Determination.
I will pass along more information as it becomes available.
(https://investor.shareholder.com/paypal/contactus.cfm)


Best regards,

(Name redacted by me)
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What the hell, why did the funds stay in the account, Granny warriors should have been withdrawing funds daily if not hourly.
 
This makes no sense, why did the funds stay there, it takes 3-4 days for a PayPal transfer to a bank account, so Granny Warriors should have withdrawn amounts prior.
 
that's messed up! Seconded the question of what happens to everyone's money

On top of that, Ron Paul said he didn't want a recount.
 
It doesn't matter if you're transferring $5 or $500,000 from PayPal to your own account. It takes 3-4 business days for the funds to be transferred. Did someone assume it could be transferred the same day?
 
If I get any more info I will pass it along. I would imagine that in short order, paypal will be swamped with calls and emails, and I hope they fix this fast.

Funny thing though, when I kept getting that message on paypal yesterday, when I tried to donate, I had a sneaky suspicion that they would pull a stunt like this.

Paypal does suck, bigtime.
 
I personally contributed to that fund, but relying on Paypal is always dangerous. I thought the Sec of State would only accept the money by check anyway... so how would they have received the money by Paypal?
 
Something isnt right here, what was Granny Warriors going to do PAYPAL the funds to the secretary? The secretary of state accepts PAYPAL?? not likely.

There is something not clear here.
 
Paypal did this to me after I sold a bunch of ps3's

It sucked because I invested money I needed to pay for my school tuition.
I shipped them all next day mail and everyone was happy. Paypal just had a policy of freezing an account after a certain amount.

I finally talked to a case manager or something and hinted at seeking a lawyer since pay pal was in effect forcing me to drop out of college! The guy quickly changed his attitude and went through every transaction with me and finally released my assets. This whole thing took near a month!
 
i don't believe this for a second, There should have been a plan for a benefactor to pay the money by 3pm and then be reimbursed by the grannies.
If this was truly so IMPORTANT to them they should have had a plan B.

This is what happens when you leave an important factor in politics to some old biddies that don't know how to use a computer.
ALSO:
they said the secretary required a money order..... there is NO WAY a money order can be issued same day from paypal.

GO TO BED GRANNIES, YOUR 'HELP' IS NOT NEEDED.
 
JimInNY said:
If I get any more info I will pass it along. I would imagine that in short order, paypal will be swamped with calls and emails, and I hope they fix this fast.

Funny thing though, when I kept getting that message on paypal yesterday, when I tried to donate, I had a sneaky suspicion that they would pull a stunt like this.

Paypal does suck, bigtime.
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That's why we couldn't use them for the blimp until we got our hands on a business acount.
 
rs3515 said:
Did someone assume it could be transferred the same day?
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I don't know. I would think they had that worked out with paypal.

Again, if I hear more I will post it here.

I just happen to be on the AFTF mailing for from when I was involved with them last year, around the time Ed and Elaine brown were holed up.
 
Cali4RonPaul said:
Something isnt right here, what was Granny Warriors going to do PAYPAL the funds to the secretary? The secretary of state accepts PAYPAL?? not likely.

There is something not clear here.
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Yes what's missing is PayPal always requires 3-4 business days for transfer of funds from a PayPal account to a personal bank account. I'd really like some clarification on how anyone would consider this sabotage. There is no way the funds would have made it to them on time. Did anyone consider this?
 
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