compliment post to poster 1836: what does Paul have to lose?

[Danjlion7]

Now that I've waded through the positive and negative avalanche if threads in the aftermath of super tuesday, with a bias toward poster 1836 because im also an optimist, I want some feedback.

What if Paul were to call a press conference or hold some type of major event where he gives a fiery, thunderous speech declaring that he will fight with every last breath for the nomination all the way to the convention and also say that the GOP cannot win against Obama without his supporters, supporters who have no intention of backing anyone but him. While some in the establishment may react by saying Paul is being arrogant, I think this would be rousing for the campaign and cause a media firestorm.

Dies anyone else think this is a good idea? What does Paul have to lose by doing this? I think he would have e everything to gain.

I know Paul is used to his nice guy persona, and he is a gentleman, but I think he should do this and let the chips fall where they may.

 

[jwhitmore]

Maybe HE doesn't have anything to lose. But he would be screwing over his son.

And really...what would he gain? He is NOT going to get the nomination. Plain and simple. He knows this. He wants to be heard. And issing off the GOP, thus pretty much getting him shut out at the Convention would be the worst thing to do.

And again...seriously...while many Ron Paul supporters won't vote for the nominee (most will, by the way...come back to reality...not every one voting for Ron Paul is rabid.) well..the reverse is also true. Romney has FAR more supporters...and many of them would prefer Obama over Paul, so Obama would easily win.

They are both pollin the same against Obama...about 2 points back, but within the margin of error. If one tried to use that tactic, and the other did as well, neither one would have any chance of winning.

 

[Orgoonian]

Op caught himself a troll

 

[Carson]

What if America got up off of its ass and demanded such a speech. Then you would really have something.

 

[Darthbrooklyn]

What if Paul were to call a press conference or hold some type of major event where he gives a fiery, thunderous speech declaring that he will fight with every last breath for the nomination all the way to the convention and also say that the GOP cannot win against Obama without his supporters, supporters who have no intention of backing anyone but him. .

What supporters?... Show me where they are, id like to know.. because they sure as FK arent showing up to vote...

 

[TheGrinch]

Maybe HE doesn't have anything to lose. But he would be screwing over his son.
And again...seriously...while many Ron Paul supporters won't vote for the nominee (most will, by the way...come back to reality...not every one voting for Ron Paul is rabid.)

What reality is that? Because no offense, but your "reality" is gonna suck under anyone but Paul, so I'm not sure why I'd want to come back and support that.

 

[Tyler_Durden]

What if America got up off of its ass and demanded such a speech. Then you would really have something.

America stepped away from Manning's departure from the Colts, Snookie's pregnancy, and American Idol long enough to re-tweet and share Kony 2012. Dont put too much more pressure on America to take on another cause......

 

[cstarace]

Maybe HE doesn't have anything to lose. But he would be screwing over his son.

And really...what would he gain? He is NOT going to get the nomination. Plain and simple. He knows this. He wants to be heard. And issing off the GOP, thus pretty much getting him shut out at the Convention would be the worst thing to do.

And again...seriously...while many Ron Paul supporters won't vote for the nominee (most will, by the way...come back to reality...not every one voting for Ron Paul is rabid.) well..the reverse is also true. Romney has FAR more supporters...and many of them would prefer Obama over Paul, so Obama would easily win.

They are both pollin the same against Obama...about 2 points back, but within the margin of error. If one tried to use that tactic, and the other did as well, neither one would have any chance of winning.

 

[Warmon]

And really...what would he gain? He is NOT going to get the nomination. Plain and simple. He knows this.

Nancy, is that you?

 

[kill the banks]

guess i'm rabid

 

[Danjlion7]

Jwhitmore,

Who cares about Rand Pauls chances in 2016????? The dollar will have collapsed by then which means the sitting President will likely declare martial law. 2016 really is irrelevant.

 

[kathy88]

Maybe HE doesn't have anything to lose. But he would be screwing over his son.

And really...what would he gain? He is NOT going to get the nomination. Plain and simple. He knows this. He wants to be heard. And issing off the GOP, thus pretty much getting him shut out at the Convention would be the worst thing to do.

And again...seriously...while many Ron Paul supporters won't vote for the nominee (most will, by the way...come back to reality...not every one voting for Ron Paul is rabid.) well..the reverse is also true. Romney has FAR more supporters...and many of them would prefer Obama over Paul, so Obama would easily win.

They are both pollin the same against Obama...about 2 points back, but within the margin of error. If one tried to use that tactic, and the other did as well, neither one would have any chance of winning.

Look, if Ron's main concern is Rand's future in the GOP then he's not the man we think he is, right? I think the OPs idea is spot on. Take no prisoners. NO ONE BUT PAUL.

 

[pawlpawl]

I'm a supporter of Ron Paul.

When it is time for Rand Paul to take a step at bat, we can move from there. We have one last chance for Ron Paul. We lost the nomination, we need to keep voting, keep promoting, and keep fighting. If this thing goes to a brokered convention we get a second chance, the media cant use they're bias tactics there.


If you quit/give up now...your monthes/years of caring/hoping for the future was for nothing....lets see it through to the end.




OP: If Ron Paul took off the gloves and led a speech like that, it would start a fire under the butts of every single supporter in this campaign. It's what we need in these hard times.

 

[jointhefightforfreedom]

Now that I've waded through the positive and negative avalanche if threads in the aftermath of super tuesday, with a bias toward poster 1836 because im also an optimist, I want some feedback.

What if Paul were to call a press conference or hold some type of major event where he gives a fiery, thunderous speech declaring that he will fight with every last breath for the nomination all the way to the convention and also say that the GOP cannot win against Obama without his supporters, supporters who have no intention of backing anyone but him. While some in the establishment may react by saying Paul is being arrogant, I think this would be rousing for the campaign and cause a media firestorm.

Dies anyone else think this is a good idea? What does Paul have to lose by doing this? I think he would have e everything to gain.

I know Paul is used to his nice guy persona, and he is a gentleman, but I think he should do this and let the chips fall where they may.

I totally agree!

and point our that all MSM delegate numbers are lies because the Majority has not chosen delegates

 

[wgadget]

I wonder how many Paul supporters simply can't stand the thought of becoming a Republican to vote for him...?

 

[Tod]

I don't know what would be the best strategy; I just hope he makes the most of what he has!

 

[jolynna]

What Ron Paul has to lose should he sell-out for his son, by in any way endorsing the "corporate interest's chosen", is his impeccable integrity.

He cannot endorse a liar who advocates trashing the Oath of Office as well as the constitution. If one person votes for Romney, because Ron Paul comes out with any implication that Romney isn't so bad--when Romney is really bad--then Ron contributes to whatever results if Romney gets elected.

How bad Obama is, does not improve what Romney is.

In my opinion.

P.S. Please, for anyone who haven't already read it, read Romney's foreign policy "White Paper". The link is in my signature. It is a blueprint for nation building & world policing, Romney increases Obama's projected military spending by 61% and advocates drastically the scope and power of our domestic intelligence and Homeland security.

 

[J_White]

i would like such a conference.
clarify his FP stance (yes, again and again till the people understand it)
push the fact that even IF Romney and Santorum were on the same ticket (so as to "unite the party") and got ALL the republican vote (excluding my vote), they would still be beaten handily by Obama because they wont get the Independents.
If the GOP REALLY wants to win, they have to get Paul on the ticket. or get ready for a loss like 4 yrs back.

 

[1836]

Now that I've waded through the positive and negative avalanche if threads in the aftermath of super tuesday, with a bias toward poster 1836 because im also an optimist, I want some feedback.

What if Paul were to call a press conference or hold some type of major event where he gives a fiery, thunderous speech declaring that he will fight with every last breath for the nomination all the way to the convention and also say that the GOP cannot win against Obama without his supporters, supporters who have no intention of backing anyone but him. While some in the establishment may react by saying Paul is being arrogant, I think this would be rousing for the campaign and cause a media firestorm.

Dies anyone else think this is a good idea? What does Paul have to lose by doing this? I think he would have e everything to gain.

I know Paul is used to his nice guy persona, and he is a gentleman, but I think he should do this and let the chips fall where they may.

Well what a nice surprise when I logged in: thank you much for the kind compliment.

I very much sympathize with what you say; a big, hyped appearance with a serious statement about pressing on is exactly what our supporters could use, and it would send the message to the establishment that we are serious.

In fact, you are convincing me as I type... A big announcement, announced soon, would have the media clamoring that maybe Ron Paul is dropping out, and then boom! - Sorry, he is more determined than ever!

Now THAT would have a net positive effect. It would remind people he is still in this, fighting to the last.

Good idea!

The one thing I would dissent on is that Ron Paul himself should not, in my opinion, adopt the "no one but Paul" thing in terms of promoting the idea of everyone jumping ship if he doesn't win. Some of the grassroots might prefer to stealthily work within the party and some not so stealthily; NOBP is a good slogan and a grassroots effort, not something Ron should himself adopt.

 

[oldsmobile98]

What Ron Paul has to lose should he sell-out for his son, by in any way endorsing the "corporate interest's chosen", is his impeccable integrity.

He cannot endorse a liar who advocates trashing the Oath of Office as well as the constitution. If one person votes for Romney, because Ron Paul comes out with any implication that Romney isn't so bad--when Romney is really bad--then Ron contributes to whatever results if Romney gets elected.

How bad Obama is, does not improve what Romney is.

In my opinion.

P.S. Please, for anyone who haven't already read it, read Romney's foreign policy "White Paper". The link is in my signature. It is a blueprint for nation building & world policing, Romney increases Obama's projected military spending by 61% and advocates drastically the scope and power of our domestic intelligence and Homeland security.

+ REP

No compromise with Romney.