Commercial fishermen land a big one: SCOTUS overturns the "Chevron doctrine"

[Pauls' Revere]

This is huge.

YUGE! MAGA YUGE!

 

[Pauls' Revere]

"Democracy" is when "scientific expert" are the "regulators of laws".

https://x.com/BarbraStreisand/status/1806808635374186724

You mean only when they work at or for Federal Agencies.

 

[Anti Federalist]

The thing is, federal law doesn't authorize NMFS to charge businesses for this. They just decided to start doing it in 2013.

Nazi Marine Fisheries Service started doing that long before 2013.

I think in the plaintiffs case, they just started to do it to their fishery.

Because I remember protesting and raising hell about the NMFS monitor program in the 80s.

I also recall a conversation with Bill Fox, who was then director of the NMFS, this would have been in the early 90s, where he flatly told a group of us fishermen that his objective was to make sure at least half of us were put out of business.

 

[Anti Federalist]

YUGE! MAGA YUGE!

It is huge.

And it is MAGA huge, because the judges appointed by Trump would not have been the same judges appointed by Clinton, and they, I gaurndamntee you, would not have ruled to overturn Chevron.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Trifecta achieved

THREAD: SCOTUS: federal regulators can be sued after statutory limitations expire

The Supreme Court rules for a North Dakota truck stop in a new blow to federal regulators
https://apnews.com/article/supreme-...-debit-cards-9ff39be52325ea4d11bd0742e5f3c344
{Mark Sherman | 01 July 2024}

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court opened the door Monday to new, broad challenges to regulations long after they take effect, the third blow in a week to federal agencies.

[...]

The decision could take on new significance in the wake of last week’s ruling that overturned the 1984 Chevron decision [see this thread - OB] that had made it easier to uphold regulations across a wide swath of American life. The court also stripped the Securities and Exchange Commission of a major tool to fight securities fraud [see this thread - OB].

[...]

 

[Occam's Banana]

@Occam's Banana

Hey Roach, if you would like, you can merge my thread into all the others and collect them all in one place.

I was planning on doing that after the news is no longer "headline" status.

It's a hugely significant outcome, so giving it its own thread for a while before adding it to the "lead up" thread seems good.

I'd just ask that you write a new headline that makes sure to mention it was a suit brought by commercial fishermen that tore the Chevron Doctrine down.

How about "Commercial fishermen land a big one: SCOTUS overturns the 'Chevron doctrine'" ... ?

LOL - Perfect.

Done.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Done.

Good job, thank you.

 

[Occam's Banana]

https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1808175579541430319

"If federal agencies served the public interest, then no one would want to hamstring them."

If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.

And if pigs had wings ...

https://x.com/RealSpikeCohen/status/1808385529924169870

https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1808175579541430319
& https://x.com/gunpolicy/status/1808378916295659988

 

[Anti Federalist]

Damn it, I gotta open my wallet, again.

 

[Swordsmyth]

https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1808175579541430319

"If federal agencies served the public interest, then no one would want to hamstring them."

If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.

And if pigs had wings ...

https://x.com/RealSpikeCohen/status/1808385529924169870

https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1808175579541430319
& https://x.com/gunpolicy/status/1808378916295659988

RFKommie.

 

[oyarde]

RFKommie.

Without question , probably worse than biden . Hasnt even got dementia and is saying he wants unconstitutional federal agencies to wield " broad interpretive leeway", hell , that is part of how this country got so screwed up in first place

 

[Occam's Banana]

https://x.com/RealSpikeCohen/status/1808144960643866941
{Spike Cohen @RealSpikeCohen | 02 July 2024}

FUN FACT: Chevron Deference was used to protect big corporations from liability for the harm they caused.

The Chevron v NRDC case started because the EPA changed the law's definition of "source of air pollution" to favor Chevron and other heavily-polluting companies.

So the NRDC filed a federal appeal, claiming that the EPA was illegally re-writing the law. The DC Circuit Court ruled in the NRDC's favor.

Then SCOTUS ruled that the EPA were the "experts", and therefore the courts (and the nation) had to simply defer to however they interpreted the law.

But wait, why would the EPA favor the very companies they're supposed to "protect" us from?

Because if a regulatory agency has total control of an industry, the biggest players in that industry have a vested interest in taking over those agencies.

They fill them with their cronies, first to protect themselves from being regulated out of existence. But once they're in the pilot's seat, they can do whatever they want.

They can regulate their smaller competitors out of existence.

They can mandate the use of their products.

They can look the other way when they violate their own regulations, or just redefine the regulation at will (like they did with Chevron).

They can do whatever they want.

And up until last Friday, the courts were powerless to stop them.

So when you hear someone screeching that the end of Chevron Deference means a return to the dark days of pre-1984 America, when corporations could put radioactive shrapnel in our milk, remind them that the exact opposite is true.

 

[Anti Federalist]

So when you hear someone screeching that the end of Chevron Deference means a return to the dark days of pre-1984 America, when corporations could put radioactive shrapnel in our milk, remind them that the exact opposite is true.

Not to mention...if that was true, that corps could pollute in a way to set the Cuyahoga river on fire again, and make everybody smoke their cigarettes, and Super Size us into fat oblivion, then how is that we are stupider, fatter, subject to being injected with poison, chemically neutered, living less and suffering from chronic disease more, now than we were then?

 

[vita3]

I think RFK might be reasonable here as some regulation is fine imo

Paying for a GOV official to be on your boat & make sure your catch is on the up & up & compliant is insanity

 

[dude58677]

The tax honesty movement is also vindicated.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Supreme Court Overturns Evil System; Evil Bastards Cry Foul I TWS #2512
The Tom Woods Show: Episode 2512
https://odysee.com/@TomWoodsTV:e/supreme-court-overturns-evil-system-evil:9
{TomWoodsTV | 04 July 2024}

Kevin Gutzman, a professor of history and the author of numerous important books, and who also teaches at Tom's LibertyClassroom.com, discusses the significance of the overturning of "Chevron deference" as well as the particular merits of Clarence Thomas.

Guest's Website: https://KevinGutzman.com

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[Matt Collins]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC_tT0qesBA

 

[Anti Federalist]

I think RFK might be reasonable here as some regulation is fine imo

Paying for a GOV official to be on your boat & make sure your catch is on the up & up & compliant is insanity

The question is: are the people who are writing and enacting regulations that carry the force of criminal and civil law, duly elected and supposedly accountable representatives of the people?

Or are they unelected and unaccountable apparatchiks?

 

[vita3]

Looks like some accountability has been restored.

Other side of coin, Criminal corporations & crooks always want zero accountability

Balance is a beautiful thing

Happy 4th!

 

[Matt Collins]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DjnHIr1KjI