Coalition against McCain is asking for our support to take him down!
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greendiseaser
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Even Ron Paul Said "an enemy of my enemy" should NOT make a friend!
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i dont recall them ever disrespecting dr. paul
When have the vietnam vets groups ever disrespected dr. paul.
When i spoke with their directors they really like dr. paul and have a lof of supporters in their ranks for him.
Strange that several people think these guys are against dr. paul when they arent.
When have the vietnam vets groups ever disrespected dr. paul.
When i spoke with their directors they really like dr. paul and have a lof of supporters in their ranks for him.
Strange that several people think these guys are against dr. paul when they arent.
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what enemies?
very strange...how several people keep using the same quotes against the vietnam vet group that supports ron and hates mccain.
very strange...how several people keep using the same quotes against the vietnam vet group that supports ron and hates mccain.
I don't think it has to do with Veterans groups against McCain. I think people, in general, have a good deal of respect for those guys. I know that I do.
I think it's more about the coalition that's being built in opposition to McCain. Yes, his gaining the nomination would be terrible for the Republican party, we all agree. But getting on board a coalition with the likes of the MSM and other GOP party scum who have done everything in their power to not only marginalize and mock Ron Paul, but more importantly have used every trick in their arsenal to keep the message of true conservatism, liberty, and freedom for the country's citizens from ever reaching those citizens lest they be able to forge an opinion of their own is a very difficult decision to make.
The truth, from where I sit, is that while McCain gaining the nomination would be a tragedy since it would keep Dr. Paul from doing so, it would also sink a nice long nail in the coffin of the national GOP. And that nice long nail would be well deserved by the GOP pretenders who have themselves not only lied about and distorted Paul's views, but most importantly have hid them from the public eyes.
A very difficult call indeed. We should take solace in the fact that by some measure the situation is a win-win, if you will. If McCain gets the nomination then we all know the country will be far worse off going forward than if Dr. Paul does. Then again, the GOP will be teetering inches from total implosion... And that prospect would be a silver lining not without redeeming value.
Chemotherapy for the GOP. Just what the doctor ordered... Or at least the second choice for treatment after a Dr. Paul GOP nomination...
p.s. For what it's worth, I am still debating myself which route I believe, personally, is the proper one to take here. Uniting with the likes of those who have worked together to subvert our nation's democracy by hiding Dr. Paul's message for any reason makes me throw up a little in my mouth...
edit: One more caveat, by the way. I strongly support the Veterans (and capitalize the word out of sheer respect) groups. The way they have been treated by our government, prior to, during, and subsequent to being placed into bloody battle by our politicians is a God-damn disgrace. Which is another good chunk of why it's so hard to get on board with the likes of the other neo-con anti-McCain types who so badly want to continue sending the next generation of would-be veterans into more bloody battles for no good reason (while destroying our country's principles and bankrupting it at the same time)...
I think it's more about the coalition that's being built in opposition to McCain. Yes, his gaining the nomination would be terrible for the Republican party, we all agree. But getting on board a coalition with the likes of the MSM and other GOP party scum who have done everything in their power to not only marginalize and mock Ron Paul, but more importantly have used every trick in their arsenal to keep the message of true conservatism, liberty, and freedom for the country's citizens from ever reaching those citizens lest they be able to forge an opinion of their own is a very difficult decision to make.
The truth, from where I sit, is that while McCain gaining the nomination would be a tragedy since it would keep Dr. Paul from doing so, it would also sink a nice long nail in the coffin of the national GOP. And that nice long nail would be well deserved by the GOP pretenders who have themselves not only lied about and distorted Paul's views, but most importantly have hid them from the public eyes.
A very difficult call indeed. We should take solace in the fact that by some measure the situation is a win-win, if you will. If McCain gets the nomination then we all know the country will be far worse off going forward than if Dr. Paul does. Then again, the GOP will be teetering inches from total implosion... And that prospect would be a silver lining not without redeeming value.
Chemotherapy for the GOP. Just what the doctor ordered... Or at least the second choice for treatment after a Dr. Paul GOP nomination...
p.s. For what it's worth, I am still debating myself which route I believe, personally, is the proper one to take here. Uniting with the likes of those who have worked together to subvert our nation's democracy by hiding Dr. Paul's message for any reason makes me throw up a little in my mouth...
edit: One more caveat, by the way. I strongly support the Veterans (and capitalize the word out of sheer respect) groups. The way they have been treated by our government, prior to, during, and subsequent to being placed into bloody battle by our politicians is a God-damn disgrace. Which is another good chunk of why it's so hard to get on board with the likes of the other neo-con anti-McCain types who so badly want to continue sending the next generation of would-be veterans into more bloody battles for no good reason (while destroying our country's principles and bankrupting it at the same time)...
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This is the right thing to do. We need McCain DOWN and OUT.
Use your heads people. I find it "funny" that a few come out and say "no, the necons are on board, can't do it..." LAUGHABLE.
McCAIN IS A HUGE NEOCON and Globalist and CFR. Why do you think Governor Perry asked Huck to step aside? They want their NAU and superhigway. They want their open borders and constant wars!!!!
At this point, we need to take down McCain to reduce his delegate and move towards the convention. Simple tactics. See the bigger picture here.
I AM ALL IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reduce his support and get him to falter, huckabee and paul will pick up more support and see us to the brokered convention.
DOWN WITH McCAIN!
A liberal in Republican drag.
Use your heads people. I find it "funny" that a few come out and say "no, the necons are on board, can't do it..." LAUGHABLE.
McCAIN IS A HUGE NEOCON and Globalist and CFR. Why do you think Governor Perry asked Huck to step aside? They want their NAU and superhigway. They want their open borders and constant wars!!!!
At this point, we need to take down McCain to reduce his delegate and move towards the convention. Simple tactics. See the bigger picture here.
I AM ALL IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reduce his support and get him to falter, huckabee and paul will pick up more support and see us to the brokered convention.
DOWN WITH McCAIN!
A liberal in Republican drag.
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.. and why do you think that is?
With the field thus narrowed, the trolls have come out swinging and are dissuading ANY from being active, in either direction.
Lets just forge ahead. You put out the links, let keep promoting them and the support will come.
With Bush's approval rating at an all time low of 30% who approve of the job he is doing ...
then why are people voting for McCain, who Bush endorses??? That fact just baffles me.
If you support McCain...you support Bush...more of the same..war, debt,etc.
then why are people voting for McCain, who Bush endorses??? That fact just baffles me.
If you support McCain...you support Bush...more of the same..war, debt,etc.
The enemy of our enemy is our friend.
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thats one way to look at it.
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We're trying to further the Revolution, not fight McCain. These ideas are terrible, because they don't further the liberty message, and distract us from our primary goal.
It's like listening to all of the gomers on Alex Jones or RPR Radio, ranting about Vote Fraud, when they don't even understand the delegate process.
If you're in, focus on canvassing, providing funding, support and materials to other MeetUps. When the primaries and conventions are done, we can beat McCain like a drum.
It's like listening to all of the gomers on Alex Jones or RPR Radio, ranting about Vote Fraud, when they don't even understand the delegate process.
If you're in, focus on canvassing, providing funding, support and materials to other MeetUps. When the primaries and conventions are done, we can beat McCain like a drum.
attacking McCain is furthering the revolution. his ideas are the polar opposite. if we crush neocons top ideologue, we're so much further. remember that when neocons crash and burn, we're the ones who are building her replacement.
besides, McCain has 700 delegates. we need to stop him now and forever. i still don't want to lose the election.
That's kind of how I look at it. There are more ways than one to catch a bird.
e.g. You can state the principles of Liberty and Freedom, or you can state those that are diametrically opposed, like McCain's.
If we don't stop McCain before he's the nominee, we'll have more trouble to deal with than stopping him before he becomes such.
Stop him now, give Ron a chance, stop him later, no chance for Ron.
Obama/Clinton vs. McCain sounds like 4 more years of the same.
He needs to go down NOW. Not later. McCain needs to be "out of the picture" BEFORE the convention.
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