CNN reporter claims most OWS protesters are libertarians that support Ron Paul

[parocks]

No coverage is bad coverage right?

Of these protests? We don't want Ron Paul associated with these protests. No coverage is best.

 

[Elfshadow]

so... Im wondering if our low poll numbers are being caused by lots of our supporters camped out in diffrent cities? Just an ideal thought and probably wrong.

 

[michaelkellenger]

Just watching CNN and the live reporter from the scene of one of the protests was asked if the protesters were supporting any particular party or candidate and said said many are libertarians and are supporting Ron. If any GOP primary voters were watching we just lost their vote. It was pretty bad, she actually made it sound like the majority of the protesters are Ron Paul supporting Libertarians.

You said the reporter in the title said MOST were, yet in this post you said the reporter said many were. Which is it? Were you there??

 

[parocks]

so... Im wondering if our low poll numbers are being caused by lots of our supporters camped out in diffrent cities? Just an ideal thought and probably wrong.

No, the problem is that next month, or the month after that, or later, people who currently support another candidate will not vote for Paul because they think that he is somehow like the protesters, who they hate. The friend of my enemy is my enemy.

 

[dbill27]

so... Im wondering if our low poll numbers are being caused by lots of our supporters camped out in diffrent cities? Just an ideal thought and probably wrong.

The media is now portraying us as storming a value voters summit and "stuffing" the ballot box. They'e trying to make us look like fanatics. If fox is able to start associating us with this too it's literally over for the campaign.

 

[dbill27]

You said the reporter in the title said MOST were, yet in this post you said the reporter said many were. Which is it? Were you there??

I saw it on tv live, i don't remember what phrasing she used. Something along those lines is how i remembered it, it caught me off guard

 

[D.A.S.]

Too much friggin' hysteria going on about media coverage and OWS... TURN OFF YOUR TV!!!

 

[parocks]

The media is now portraying us as storming a value voters summit and "stuffing" the ballot box. They'e trying to make us look like fanatics. If fox is able to start associating us with this too it's literally over for the campaign.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that. We should keep the Ron Paul signs and the Ron Paul tshirts away from these protests.

Apparently, there are a lot of Ron Paul supporters who want to hang with leftists. And apparently, theres nothing we can do about it.

 

[TheTexan]

I think everyone on rpf is and has been pretty aware for weeks that there are RP people there, I think you're seriously missing the point of this thread, political ramifications.

Once you start playing the politics game you've already lost. This is a campaign of truth, honesty, and integrity, and trying to hide this portion of Ron Paul's support is none of those things.

 

[eff]

hahaha
oh god, that was awesome.
Thanks
Kokesh has provided so much entertainment for the last week.

 

[dbill27]

Once you start playing the politics game you've already lost. This is a campaign of truth, honesty, and integrity, and trying to hide this portion of Ron Paul's support is none of those things.

No ones trying to hide anything, certainly not cnn, im guessing fox will do us a huge favor and really shine some light on this too

 

[culvereric]

loved that video...why not hold signs to get some change...some kind of secret cult. that's f-ed up

 

[DinahWest]

OWS like the Anti-War Movement during the Bush Administration will be co-opted.
Co-opted to play up class warfare and anti-capitalism sentiments.

One need only look to whom is now attaching themselves to OWS.

Obama, Pelosi, & Reid have in the past few days voiced support for OWS and tapping into the "frustration".
Despite Goldman Sachs bankrolling 1/3 of Obama's re-election campaign. Plus many with ties to Obama, we add SEIU(Obama's union thug buddies), billionaire George Soros(Mr.New World Order), Moveon.org(pushing Obama's jobs bill and tax hike on the "rich"), 60's radical Francis Fox-Piven(whom has called for violence), self-proclaimed Communist and former Obama Green Jobs Czar Van Jones(whose call for violence in the "Top Down, Bottom Up, & Inside Out" to try and force a government crackdown destroying civil liberties under the guise of protection), Obama's spiritual adviser Jim Wallis(whom claims the Gospel of Christ is all about Redistribution of Wealth), plus others in the way of anarchy socialism ect.., plus a media that plays the narrative this Administration is pushing.

One has to forgive of being cynical if I think OWS is being, has been, or will be morphed into this.

Obama like Bush use these financial crisis(they and their friends in Washington helped or directly created) to justify abandonment of the free market and crony capitalism.

Yes, you may have some good people down their in the sense of what they are standing for in the way of true freedom, liberty, and honesty, but IMO that message will be or is being drowned out. And we know the Washington master's and how they can manipulate wordings or deceive based on dubious connotations.

 

[musicmax]

Of these protests? We don't want Ron Paul associated with these protests. No coverage is best.

Unless you have multiple personalities on whose behalf you are speaking, you are not a "we" and you do not represent RPF.

 

[ONUV]

being associated with these people would be a campaign killer for any GOP candidate.

 

[dbill27]

Unless you have multiple personalities on whose behalf you are speaking, you are not a "we" and you do not represent RPF.

I think it's pretty safe to say that if you are on RON PAUL forums, then you want Ron to be successful, so I think saying we is a pretty fair use of the word.

 

[TheTexan]

The important thing to realize is that these protesters are paying attention now. There will be a short window of time these people will continue to be paying attention.

It's critically important that Ron Paul people are there (with or without the RP gear/signs) so that they can be exposed to an alternate political philosophy, and make up their own mind based on the merits of the philosophies themselves.

Forget worrying about the media. Just do what you think is right, and if the media twists it into something else, that's just what the media does.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

Good question I don't actually remember what they said, I heard OWS, although at this point I don't think the average GOP voter would even notice the difference

The average GOP voter has less brain cells than Kelly Bundy.

 

[One Last Battle!]

OWS like the Anti-War Movement during the Bush Administration will be co-opted.
Co-opted to play up class warfare and anti-capitalism sentiments.

One need only look to whom is now attaching themselves to OWS.

Obama, Pelosi, & Reid have in the past few days voiced support for OWS and tapping into the "frustration".
Despite Goldman Sachs bankrolling 1/3 of Obama's re-election campaign. Plus, we add SEIU(Obama's union thug buddies), Moveon.org(pushing Obama's jobs bill and tax hike on the "rich"), 60's radical Francis Fox-Piven(whom has called for violence), self-proclaimed Communist and former Obama Green Jobs Czar Van Jones(whose call for violence in the "Top Down, Bottom Up, & Inside Out" to try and force a government crackdown destroying civil liberties under the guise of protection), Obama's spiritual adviser Jim Wallis(whom claims the Gospel of Christ is all about Redistribution of Wealth), plus others in the way of anarchy socialism ect.., plus a media that plays the narrative this Administration is pushing.

One has to forgive of being cynical if I think OWS is being, has been, or will be morphed into this.

Obama like Bush use these financial crisis(they and their friends in Washington helped or directly created) to justify abandonment of the free market and crony capitalism.

Yes, you may have some good people down their in the sense of what they are standing for in the way of true freedom, liberty, and honesty, but IMO that message will be or is being drowned out. And we know the Washington master's and how they can manipulate wordings or deceive based on dubious connotations.

So because they are trying to co-opt it, we should back off and let them do so?
Why are we incapable of making this blow up in their faces by taking over and turning the angry crowds against the people paying for it? If we stand around and do nothing it just turns into a big media narrative that pits Romney vs Obama and leaves us sitting around with nothing.

 

[DinahWest]

So because they are trying to co-opt it, we should back off and let them do so?
Why are we incapable of making this blow up in their faces by taking over and turning the angry crowds against the people paying for it? If we stand around and do nothing it just turns into a big media narrative that pits Romney vs Obama and leaves us sitting around with nothing.

I simply said don't get upset or miffed if others like me aren't on board with this.
You do what you feel is best and so will others.

It won't blow back due to the media, first off. And honest discussion takes more time than mass manipulation which they are great at. And the time is short. One need only look at the hate the rich narrative to see how they roll, because entitlement has become ingrained and they pass crony capitalism off as the real thing and say capitalism has failed and government must step in.

For me, OWS will amount to nothing positive.

To each his own.