CNN post-debate national poll: Rand in 8th

[limequat]

This is good.
They won't be able to kick Rand out of the next debate without also getting rid of Christie, Kasich and Walker (!).

Also, I'm calling this the bottom in terms of Rand's national polling. It will start to go up again now.

 

[TomtheTinker]

The battlefields are is Iowa and NH. We have a solid chance in both states.National polls only matter for debates.

 

[klamath]

I think Rand gained back a little of ron's base he lost and it has given him about a 1% bounce.

 

[Brett85]

It's hard to get excited about being at 4%, but it does seem like at least a step in the right direction compared to where Rand has been at. Hopefully that trend continues. I don't agree with those who think that Rand could ever have as big of a jump in the polls as Fiorina did. Fiorina's "surge" in the polls is primarily due to the media pushing her campaign. Anyone who is talked about that much in the media and has their candidacy essentially promoted by the media is going to see a big jump in the polls like that. The media will never promote Rand's candidacy, and thus he will never see that big of a jump. Rand is just going to have to try to get more of a slow and steady rise in the polls. Hopefully the ground game in Iowa is as good as advertised and Rand can peak at just the right time there, right before the Iowa caucus.

 

[Batman]

I think Rand gained back a little of ron's base he lost and it has given him about a 1% bounce.

He needed to do this. He needs to do it more. The field is so divided that he can't win neocons and Evangelicals. Ron skated by with 10-15% in all the polls and primaries. That's a winning percentage this time around.

 

[klamath]

He needed to do this. He needs to do it more. The field is so divided that he can't win neocons and Evangelicals. Ron skated by with 10-15% in all the polls and primaries. That's a winning percentage this time around.

I disagree. The field is going to thin out fast and the hawk vote is going to consolidate in far greater percentages than 10 or 15%

 

[CPUd]

Rubio will get that hawk vote. He's always been their guy.

 

[Batman]

I disagree. The field is going to thin out fast and the hawk vote is going to consolidate in far greater percentages than 10 or 15%

Primaries are earlier this time. It'll all be over in a bang.

 

[goldwater's ghost]

when i look at the demographics of these polls i think something is a bit screwy and doesnt really reflect the people that will be voiting. i may be wrong but i think rand is actually polling better than what we're seeing. not enough to be leading but enough to be 5th or so. i add about 4% to whatever the pollsters have. i just think the pollsters are omitting the libertarian vote. it didnt just disappear in 4 yrs

 

[Brett85]

when i look at the demographics of these polls i think something is a bit screwy and doesnt really reflect the people that will be voiting. i may be wrong but i think rand is actually polling better than what we're seeing. not enough to be leading but enough to be 5th or so. i add about 4% to whatever the pollsters have. i just think the pollsters are omitting the libertarian vote. it didnt just disappear in 4 yrs

A large number of Ron Paul supporters from 2008 and 2012 are supporting Bernie Sanders this time around, judging from the comments on Ron's Facebook page.

 

[goldwater's ghost]

A large number of Ron Paul supporters from 2008 and 2012 are supporting Bernie Sanders this time around, judging from the comments on Ron's Facebook page.

how do you go from ron paul to bernie sanders? did these people understand what ron was talking about? man that is sad if thats true. that means they just jumped on the outsider bandwagon and have no real philosophy whatsoever

 

[Brett85]

how do you go from ron paul to bernie sanders? did these people understand what ron was talking about? man that is sad if thats true. that means they just jumped on the outsider bandwagon and have no real philosophy whatsoever

Yeah, I think about half of Ron's supporters were basically just anti war liberals who supported Ron because of the foreign policy issues, because he was more anti war than any of the Democratic candidates.

 

[goldwater's ghost]

Yeah, I think about half of Ron's supporters were basically just anti war liberals who supported Ron because of the foreign policy issues, because he was more anti war than any of the Democratic candidates.

maybe you're right. i just hope the percentage isnt as large as you say it is. hopefully close to 25%

 

[KEEF]

Rubio will indeed be next, but he too will fade. He's too stupid for primetime.

 

[LibertyEagle]

And why I support Rand running as an Independent since he is gets hate news coverage from the media and the media keeps lying about his views. If not Rand, someone has to run third party as an Independent to show the false two party system that the people have had enough. That person is not Trump either.

And that would insure a Hitlery or Jeb win.

 

[PaleoPaul]

Sadly, Boobus might actually go for Rubio because he's "young" or "sexy" or "fresh" or whatever buzzword the media would attach.

 

[DisneyFan]

A large number of Ron Paul supporters from 2008 and 2012 are supporting Bernie Sanders this time around, judging from the comments on Ron's Facebook page.

I'm not that surprised. Back in 2008, some of the Ron fans on sites like digg turned into total Obamabots. I backed Romney in those primaries and McCain in the general, so I wasn't one of those, but I remember thinking how little sense it made to go from someone like Ron to Obama if you actually looked at the issues.

 

[klamath]

And why I support Rand running as an Independent since he is gets hate news coverage from the media and the media keeps lying about his views. If not Rand, someone has to run third party as an Independent to show the false two party system that the people have had enough. That person is not Trump either.

I always opposed the idea of a independent run but I am getting to the point of supporting it. Rand being a good party man has not helped him anymore than Ron being a rebel. Seeing Rands negatives going up has really started to push me out of the republican party. I thought the party would be moving toward the non intervention side of things. NOT. If Rand ran as a independent against Hilary, jeb or trump I think he could pull quite a chunk of voters.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Trump is having an aneurysm on Twitter. He's in rage mode

 

[Batman]

Bernie isn't quite antiwar is he?