CNN Jacksonville, FL Debate (1/26/12) 8p ET - Official Thread!

donnay said:
See I think that is wrong about Cuba. I lived there for two years and met a lot a wonderful Cubans. They want America to open up trade with Cuba because the people have suffered for years because of it. Not to mention, if we open up free trade (not a phony NAFTA or CAFTA) and keep an open and friendly relationship with these countries they might not conspire with other countries to do harm to us!
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I agree with you. the pundits are out to lunch on that one.
 
This is what is so great about Ron being in the debates. Think of all the Cuban Americans in Florida watching and hearing him talk about how the embargo hurts the people, and that trade and people coming and going, the Cuban people would be exposed to free markets and freedom and see that Americans aren't bad people like the regime says. They would be on a fast track towards the end of dictatorship. Cuban Americans have to think about that, and, according to polls, they are, and opinion is changing. This helps further that change. Even if Ron Paul doesn't win the nomination, he is making people think. And if Cuban American opinions change to be against the embargo, the politicians will follow. Policy changed, Ron Paul wins.
 
LOL Paul was already writing before the intros even started wuuuut? I'm starting to think he's not taking notes but writing his next book up there. ;)
 
GunnyFreedom said:
I agree with you. the pundits are out to lunch on that one.
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The same with the Haitians. There are a lot of wonderful Haitian people, a good many of them are Christians. They told me stories about their government, and our government that made my hair stand on end. One guy I knew had five bullet holes in his body, and left for dead, but he watched all his family perish. This is what governments do.

Even our so-called government humanitarians like Clinton and Bush who supposedly went down to help them after the earthquake was nothing more than photo-ops. It's horrible what these politicians do, truly horrible.
 
Why do you guys torture yourself watching the post-debate? It's irrelevant. Anyone who watches it most likely saw the debate anyway, so they already know how Ron REALLY did. :p The real problem with media bias comes in the headline stories during prime-time (and all other hours of the day)...
 
I'm watching the post-debate critique & the jackass on the left mentioned that Cubans & Hispanic voters are 30% of the vote in the Republican Primary & Ron said let's do business with Fidel Castro. He said that is tough to hear & pushes Ron Paul out of the Republican mainstream.

Didn't Ron Paul get 50% of the hispanic vote in a recent Florida poll?
 
The post debate bashing of Newt and the talking up of Santorum means two things---the establishment wants Newt's day in the sun to end, and wants many of his votes to switch to Rick, so Paul can end up in fourth. They know Santorum is sinking, and needs votes to shore up his numbers in the FL primary, otherwise Paul's momentum returns.

There's also the issue of brand differentation among establishmentarians, in that CNN and MSNBC have generally pushed Romney, while FOX has been quietly pushing Newt. The ammo Mitt gave CNN tonight provided enough cover for them to continue the Newt beat down post-debate.
 
Ron had a solid performance in tonight's debate, let's hope that influences voters decisions come primary night.
 
Peace&Freedom said:
The post debate bashing of Newt and the talking up of Santorum means two things---the establishment wants Newt's day in the sun to end, and wants many of his votes to switch to Rick, so Paul can end up in fourth. They know Santorum is sinking, and needs votes to shore up his numbers in the FL primary, otherwise Paul's momentum returns.

There's also the issue of brand differentation among establishmentarians, in that CNN and MSNBC have generally pushed Romney, while FOX has been quietly pushing Newt. The ammo Mitt gave CNN tonight provided enough cover for them to continue the Newt beat down post-debate.
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Maybe Foxnews pushing Newt has to do with him being on the Foxnews payroll as a Consultant for a number of years and is therefore likely close with the staff. Santorum was a paid Consultant also for about 5 years and Hannity has been promoting his "good friend" for President for 10 years now. So Newt and Santorum being pushed by Foxnews is no surprise.
 
mello said:
I'm watching the post-debate critique & the jackass on the left mentioned that Cubans & Hispanic voters are 30% of the vote in the Republican Primary & Ron said let's do business with Fidel Castro. He said that is tough to hear & pushes Ron Paul out of the Republican mainstream.

Didn't Ron Paul get 50% of the hispanic vote in a recent Florida poll?
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40%
 
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