CNN Arizona Debate (2/22) 8:00ET- Official Thread

This post debate analysis is a ignore Ron Paul fest.

Maybe we should have our own people interviewing him so they can get the real news onto YouTube and other web outlets.

Man I'm old and set in my ways but even I can see I going to have to break away even more from stuff they are selling on the old networks.

Lots of us want to hear what he has to say after the debate. He really said it like it is tonight. He was coming in loud and clear!
 
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This was my prediction for the debate at 7:07pm in the seating position thread. I may have underestimated Santie's destruction, but the rest is spot on.

"I predict Ron will own it but Gingrich will be declared the winner by the media. Romney and Santie will both come out looking a little worse for wear, but not destroyed. Santie's fans will think everyone's lying and that they're all just bullying the good decent Christian on stage. But it might wake a few soft supporters up."
 
Apples to onions, friend.

I saw it, Santorum sawed, yanked & jerked Ron's arm (at least twice!) like NO handshake I have ever seen between gentlemen or businessmen or elected officials (which both of them are!)- EVER. It was something I've only seen amongst drunk frat boys who were intimidating a "rival" at a party while trying to maintain a modicum of etiquette while also appearing "friendly" for posterity's sake. It doesn't work.

Yes, we know Ron is a big boy- we've seen the photo of Ron in the pool last summer with his UFC delts- we know he could have jerked Santorum's arm clean off his torso if he were prepared for a yank like that, or even disposed to pull a skanky move like that. But he isn't and won't. But that's NOT the point! And it is certainly not the same as the Rick Perry Finger-pointing photograph.

This was live video, not just a split second image. It was disgusting. I wonder if Santorum yanks his wife and kids around with the same hand. Or maybe he just follows his own version of the Bible and uses a stick?
ha- please, it was playful and almost like admitting that ron gave him a tough time and he was goofing around. they both smiled.
 
So I'm re-watching the part where they are discussing the bail out of the auto industries.

It seems sad they blame the auto industry problems on the unions for gains they made over decades of hard work with the increase in wages and benefits. They want to strip them of their lives work and retirement but when it comes to cutting back on the looting and thieving the government has done through devaluation of our currency and our way of life they refuse to make one cut.

Actually with the inflation they have caused no wages have increased in over forty years. Some may have went up some but not at the rate of inflation and everything else. Well unless you are part of the elite 1%.
 
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ha- please, it was playful and almost like admitting that ron gave him a tough time and he was goofing around. they both smiled.

Looked like they were kidding each other to me also. Short of some sort of a high five.
 
Wow, this might be the most juvenile debate thread on this forum yet. It's like this is professional wrestling or something. So much "OMG FROTHY GETTING HIS AZZ KCIKED LOLOLOL" type comments. It's really cringe-worthy. I know, I know. "You don't have to read it." But good grief, is it impossible to have a thoughtful and respectful discussion about a debate? It seems to be among this particular group of Ron Paul supporters.

I might have to stop reading this stuff, because it makes me start feeling like rooting against Ron Paul, and that's silly. Ron Paul is a great man and deserves to win, but doesn't deserve the kind of hate spewed in his name.

It would take me too long to respond to everything I wanted to, but I picked out a few comments along the way...

That purple tie Newt's sporting is hideous!

I like it! Purple is my favorite color. My first thought watching the debate was "Newt has the best tie!"

Can we start the "Welcome Santorum Supporters" thread yet?

That would be a joke. Most of the members of this forum have done nothing but insult Santorum and his supporters. Which is not a way to gain more people to the cause, that's for sure.

I don't see how any reasonable person could watch this and not see 3 ass clowns and 1 President.

Well, you're blinded by your own biases, then. All four have valid viewpoints, even if you can't see them.

Dang. Slow down, Ron and complete sentences.

Yeah, my son said "If he becomes president, he might die of hyperventilating." :p I said "Well, he knows CNN isn't going to give him much time, so he's trying to get a lot out at once!"

It was RUDE and UNCALLED FOR. It was done in a threatening way, imo.

Oh good grief. Santorum was not trying to injure Ron Paul. These men don't hate each other. Some of you people are truly delusional.

Definitely.

Santy is a piece of shit. An UNCHRISTIAN piece of shit.

Please stop saying this kind of garbage. It only demeans you, not Santorum.


Anyway, my overall impression was that Dr. Paul had a great performance tonight, including some really memorable moments of answering with confidence and gusto. He stumbled a bit when he talked too fast, but he really held his own and took advantage of the time he had. I really loved his asserting himself to get his full minute when John King said "Very quickly.."

So, I enjoyed the debate but not the juvenile and vulgar and sometimes outright hateful comments made in this thread and wish that some modicum of respect could be showed in a discussion of issues that are so important. I fully expect I'll have the juvenile insults hurled at me for speaking up about it, but even if I'm the only one who stands up for decency, I think it's worth it to at least put it out there. If Ron Paul becomes the nominee of the Republican party, there will be A LOT of new members here, and I'd like it to be a site that would be welcoming to all types of people and not a select group of cheerleaders.
 
Wow, this might be the most juvenile debate thread on this forum yet. It's like this is professional wrestling or something. So much "OMG FROTHY GETTING HIS AZZ KCIKED LOLOLOL" type comments. It's really cringe-worthy. I know, I know. "You don't have to read it." But good grief, is it impossible to have a thoughtful and respectful discussion about a debate? It seems to be among this particular group of Ron Paul supporters.

Some get fired up over these debates, if you were offended, I'm sorry... I'm sorry you're so sensitive.
 
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Santorum's Specter answer was impressive. I don't agree with him, but I've never heard that answer before.
 
@Jeffster

You make some valid points, but it's probably for the best to loosen up a bit. This is all a part of "having fun as well" that Ron always talks about.
 
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I could not believe the nonsense coming out of Santorum and Gingrich's mouth about government force and coercion when Gingrich talks up Wilson, the Four Freedoms, the New Deal, FDR, Teddy Roosevelt, Hamilton, and Lincoln, and Santorum is Santorum.
 
CNN poll main page. I find this a little hard to buy.

Quick vote
Who's the favorite now in the GOP presidential campaign?
Romney
44%
1029
Santorum
25%
598
Paul
25%
592
Gingrich
6%
135
Total votes: 2354
This is not a scientific poll
 
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