Chris Christie attacks libertarians

[AuH20]

Ron Paul was never attacked like this so early in the game. Because let's face it, he was insignificant. Rand is a threat!!!

Ron was marginalized and never a real threat.

 

[TER]

lol...isnt Drudge a libertarian?

every third Tuesday

 

[jct74]

neocon publication thinks Chris Christie may be the one to take on Rand Paul and the isolationists.

Is Christie the Foreign Policy Candidate?

Jonathan S. Tobin
07.26.2013 - 10:10 AM

In the last month, conservatives looking for a possible 2016 presidential candidate with a serious approach to defense and foreign policy were starting to wonder if they would be stuck with outliers rather than frontrunners. The only reason why people like former United Nations Ambassador John Bolton and Rep. Peter King—men who are respected voices on these issues but not likely to have a chance at the nomination—were getting even minimal attention for their presidential trial balloons was the fact that all of the likely contenders have been ignoring the question of America’s need to maintain a forward position in the world and in the war on Islamist terror.

Even worse, the increasing popularity of libertarian figures like Senator Rand Paul and, to a lesser extent, Senator Ted Cruz seemed to indicate that the Republican Party was abandoning its long stance as the political bulwark of a strong America in favor of a new isolationism. The willingness of so many Republicans to join Rep. Justin Amash, another libertarian foe of anti-terror measures, in a House vote to abolish the National Security Agency’s phone surveillance program on Wednesday—and the unusual deference they got from House Speaker John Boehner—underlined this concern.

But yesterday a leading figure in the GOP and someone seen as a formidable presidential possibility for 2016 finally fired back at Paul. Speaking at panel at the Aspen Institute, New Jersey Governor Chris Christie denounced the effort to pull back on anti-terror measures as “dangerous” and warned that those—like Paul—who are attempting to craft an American retreat from the world are playing with fire. In speaking in this manner, Christie put himself on record as endorsing the policies of President George W. Bush that have been largely continued by President Obama as necessary, and served notice that Paul will be strongly opposed by Republicans who don’t want their party to be hijacked by isolationists. In doing so, Christie not only indicated that he is prepared to run in part on foreign policy issues but may embolden other possible candidates with similar views to his on this question, like Senator Marco Rubio and Rep. Paul Ryan, to do the same.

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read more:
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2...eign-policy-candidate-rand-paul-isolationism/

 

[AuH20]

Since Rubio's abrupt fall from grace, they are going to depend on Christy Creme? Are they kidding me?

 

[Anti Federalist]

Number of terror attacks in the US in the first half of 2012 - 0.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_January–June_2012

Number of paramilitary SWAT raids in that same period in the US - 20,000.

http://www.cato.org/publications/white-paper/overkill-rise-paramilitary-police-raids-america

In fact, the number of terror attacks for the entire world for that period is maybe 60 or 70.

 

[JCDenton0451]

Since Rubio's abrupt fall from grace, they are going to depend on Christy Creme? Are they kidding me?

They really have no one else left, do they?

Christie is a loyal tool of AIPAC though.

 

[JCDenton0451]

neocon publication thinks Chris Christie may be the one to take on Rand Paul and the isolationists.

"isolationists" should be in quotation marks.

 

[familydog]

There is honestly very little to like about Christie. Gun control, foreign policy, etc.

Do you live in Pennsylvania? A lot of Republicans here look to him as having great leadership capability. Corbett can't even get liquor privatization done with a Republican controlled House and Senate. Christie can do what he wants with Democrats powerless to stop it.

There is much to like about Christie for many people. Leadership matters.

 

[JCDenton0451]

Do you live in Pennsylvania? A lot of Republicans here look to him as having great leadership capability. Corbett can't even get liquor privatization done with a Republican controlled House and Senate. Christie can do what he wants with Democrats powerless to stop it.

There is much to like about Christie for many people. Leadership matters.

Is that because he works to pass Democrat agenda in New Jersey?

 

[Root]

Do you live in Pennsylvania? A lot of Republicans here look to him as having great leadership capability. Corbett can't even get liquor privatization done with a Republican controlled House and Senate. Christie can do what he wants with Democrats powerless to stop it.

There is much to like about Christie for many people. Leadership matters.

NJ Democrats love Christie. http://search.nj.com/Christie+endorse/

 

[familydog]

Is that because he works to pass Democrat agenda in New Jersey?

It doesn't matter in the context I am referencing. Christie has political leadership skills. He is beloved by Pennsylvania Republicans.

 

[JCDenton0451]

It doesn't matter in the context I am referencing. Christie has political leadership skills. He is beloved by Pennsylvania Republicans.

These are emasculated losers not worthy of being called men. They admire Christie just because he managed to get himself elected in a blue state, even though there is nothing Republican about his record in office.

This sentiment may be common in the Northeast, but thankfully nowhere else.

 

[mczerone]

This is the start of a realignment - the Dem/Rep paradigm is failing.

Amash's Amendment was the shot across the bow for the Establishment of both parties: the people, and many of the more independently minded representatives are starting to realize that just following the party line on every issue has led into a morass.

 

[familydog]

These are emasculated losers not worthy of being called men. They admire Christie just because he managed to get himself elected in a blue state, even though there is nothing Republican about his record in office.

This sentiment may be common in the Northeast, but thankfully nowhere else.

No, Pennsylvanian Republicans love Christie because he gets things done. They don't necessarily agree with him on everything, but he has had several major legislative victories. Pennsylvania's governor has had none, even with a Republican controlled congress.

I don't care how Republicans in Texas or whatever view him. This is our reality.

 

[FSP-Rebel]

These are emasculated losers not worthy of being called men. They admire Christie just because he managed to get himself elected in a blue state, even though there is nothing Republican about his record in office.

This sentiment may be common in the Northeast, but thankfully nowhere else.

For real, big whoop. Christie = Romney w/ pudge

 

[WD-NY]

neocon publication thinks Chris Christie may be the one to take on Rand Paul and the isolationists.



read more:
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2...eign-policy-candidate-rand-paul-isolationism/

lol, wowzers.

No doubt the avalanche of Pro-Paul/anti-Christie comments on this story at Politico, WashPost and HotAir has neocons like Tobin sounding super frustrated (and borderline unhinged) ...

Paul has tried to call this stance “realism,” but stripped of its rhetorical trappings that attempt to differentiate his positions from those of his crackpot father, former presidential candidate Ron Paul, it is merely warmed-over isolationism. Paul has sought to play upon the war-weariness of Americans after Iraq and Afghanistan to bring this isolationist trend into the mainstream from the margins and fever swamps of the far right and far left, where it has dwelt since before World War II. And to judge by Wednesday’s House vote and his own poll ratings, he’s succeeding.

 

[CaptLouAlbano]

Christie attacking Rand is good for Rand. Christie only plays well to the same folks that supported Guiliani, i.e. former Dems and Northeastern moderate Republicans. I do not see Christie as any threat whatsoever for the nomination because of the primary calendar.

 

[quezkittel]

I'm sure there must be enormous pressure to spew vast quantities of stuff from your mouth every day as an elected official. Do you think he ever looks back later and says "What the heck was I saying??? That makes no sense! Crap, now I have to defend saying it, like I actually thought it through before I said it..."

Yes, Christie, libertarianism *is* dangerous (to you.) All the other stuff doesn't make any sense.

Side note- are we *REALLY* not past widow wars? I really don't want to relive that era of searching out bereaved people who happen to agree with you. (Cindy Sheehan & others = evil incarnate; Our grieving people = good, killing people not directly related to 9/11 over there will make them totally feel better.)

Listening to those most effected by tragedy is good and illuminating, but seeming to let certain widows dictate your policy may be a small political gaffe for Christie??? Let's hope so.

More people on the right are questioning our involvement in at least certain countries over there than ever. Saying we should let grieving people dictate policy is sorta like saying "next time there's a crisis, I might over-react in a completely emotional way and get us into another mess against the wrong people." At least I hope people see it like that

 

[Brett85]

I guess we can forget about Scott Walker being any kind of a libertarian-leaning conservative. In 2016 it's basically going to be 9 or 10 big government fascists running against Rand, unless Cruz decides to run.

 

[69360]

His weight precludes any serious chance at the presidency. In all seriousness he would probably have major health issues on the national campaign trail, no way his body can take that stress at his weight.