China Wants to Build a 50 Square Mile City in the US

[pcosmar]

From the link in the OP,,

If the Chinese have their way, we will soon be seeing these “special economic zones” pop up all over the United States.

Sinomach has recently dispatched delegations to Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania to explore the possibility of establishing “special economic zones” in those states.

How can anyone believe that this is in any way, a good idea.

 

[Imaginos]

And regarding the Chinese buying some land here or Muslims or Europeans or Martians or Venutians,
Do you aware it's 100% legal for us to buy land in mainland China?
Do you aware evil 'commie' bastards Chinese do not have 'capitalist' property tax as we do here?
If someone buying the land here is so sensitive matter to you, then why don't you buying their land too and make money out of it?
With our money we can buy significant portion of mainland China.
Real estate market in China is the next big thing.
You heard it.
I am not interested in Chinese real estate market because I want to revenge (??) for 50 square mile of our land.
I am interested in Chinese real estate market purely for the sake of free market and profit.
However buying back as a revenge is what you want, you may go ahead do so since still you will get profit from it.
And for the Austrian school's sake, America is already taken over and no one, not even the alliance between China and Russia and Germany would take over America.
The real owner of America is alive and well and dominate the world.
The Chinese cannot compete with our real landlords.
We are paying rent (i.e. tax) to our real landlords for many decades.
They rigged the game thoroughly and some of you still don't get it.

 

[Danke]

Regardless of whether its right or wrong to allow "the Chinese government to create economic zones in the United States", I am glad that I have been learning Mandarin. It will prove to be a "survival tool".

And my learning Chinese Checkers will help pass the time in the FEMA camps.

 

[Carehn]

And my learning Chinese Checkers will help pass the time in the FEMA camps.

I hope we end up in the same one. I'll put my portion of moldy bread up against yours. Best 2 out of 3?

 

[YumYum]

And my learning Chinese Checkers will help pass the time in the FEMA camps.

In all seriousness, I'm wondering if the FEMA camps will actually be a humane move on our government's part to keep people from starving to death? We joke about FEMA camps, but what else would 60 million homeless people do to keep from dying?

 

[Danke]

I hope we end up in the same one. I'll put my portion of moldy bread up against yours. Best 2 out of 3?

haha

"Nothing's better than a thick, juicy steak.
Moldy bread is better than nothing.
Therefore, moldy bread is better than a thick, juicy steak."

 

[moostraks]

haha

"Nothing's better than a thick, juicy steak.
Moldy bread is better than nothing.
Therefore, moldy bread is better than a thick, juicy steak."

lol...my sleep addled brain finally let me get this!

 

[libertyjam]

And regarding the Chinese buying some land here or Muslims or Europeans or Martians or Venutians,
Do you aware it's 100% legal for us to buy land in mainland China?
Do you aware evil 'commie' bastards Chinese do not have 'capitalist' property tax as we do here?
If someone buying the land here is so sensitive matter to you, then why don't you buying their land too and make money out of it?
With our money we can buy significant portion of mainland China.
Real estate market in China is the next big thing.
You heard it.
I am not interested in Chinese real estate market because I want to revenge (??) for 50 square mile of our land.
I am interested in Chinese real estate market purely for the sake of free market and profit.
However buying back as a revenge is what you want, you may go ahead do so since still you will get profit from it.
And for the Austrian school's sake, America is already taken over and no one, not even the alliance between China and Russia and Germany would take over America.
The real owner of America is alive and well and dominate the world.
The Chinese cannot compete with our real landlords.
We are paying rent (i.e. tax) to our real landlords for many decades.
They rigged the game thoroughly and some of you still don't get it.

So the real owners of America are ... the shapeshifting lizards oligarchy royalty?

 

[Imaginos]

So the real owners of America are ... the shapeshifting lizards oligarchy royalty?

Please, I am not a conspiracy theorist.
All I am following is the money/wealth transfer in America that has been ongoing for decades now.
I came to my current conclusion solely based upon ECONOMICS, nothing more.
And I refuse to be a clueless victim.
I will outsmart those f**kers that screw us.
Winning the battle begins with knowing your real enemy.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Do you aware it's 100% legal for us to buy land in mainland China?

By "us", are you talking about American citizens, or are you saying that the American GOVERNMENT can buy land in China? Because that is what we are talking about here with the Chinese.

 

[moostraks]

Let me make my position very clear, and thanks for giving me the opportunity to expand on this.

A couple of points and truths that I have found to be true after 30 years of working for living, in everything from the largest corporations to owning two businesses of my own:

1 - Corporate tyranny is as bad as government tyranny. The notion that the private sector would not enact policies that could be just as repressive as any government law or policy, is historically inaccurate on the face of it. Look up "Fordism". Read up on the history of the coal miners of West Virginia, how the companies colluded together to "own" everything about the people living there. Research some of the "planned worker's communities" of the late 19th and early 20th century, where you were subject to house to house searches for "the demon rum" or forced the people to attend the company church.

"Oh, well, then just go and find another job, or start your own business then, if you don't like it." Sophomoric sophistry. A useless suggestion when every company, every business, every endeavor is carrying out the same policy, for whatever reason. Much like the pervasiveness of drug testing in whole swaths of jobs where there is no law mandating such tests.

If you're saying that, just because you agree to sell a business owner a set of skills and labor for a specific period of time each day, that said employer now "owns" you and has a right to snoop into everything you do, well, you're doing nothing but selling indentured servitude, which is pretty much what we are already living under now through government. Good luck with that.

2 - I am opposed to globalization and "free trade". I have to live and work under these mandates. I have to comply with, literally, 10,000 pages of UN mandated rules, regulations and policies, IN MY OWN COUNTRY. Now, if you would please, point to who I vote for on the IMO/SOLAS/ILO board? Who is my representation there? My time, labor and income is taxed by complying with these policies. Who is my representative there?

If you think compliance with the fedgov and all it's nonsense is next to impossible now, wait until you have start complying with international rules, codes and policies.

3 - No, I don't want to put a gun to any fellow citizen's head. I want to put the gun to the head of the foreign mercantilists, communists, socialists, subsidized police statists and all the rest looking to make a fast buck in our market by gutting our industry, destroying the middle class, and erecting a police state as a consequence, to protect the banksters, swindlers, fast buck con men, and bunko artists selling this pile of swill called "free trade".

Because as the wheels continue to fall off this mess, that's what the police will do, they will arrest, shoot and kill those of us who try to stop these con men pricks from bailing out of the country, literally with bags of swag over their back.

That is what they are warming up for, that is what the training is gearing them up for, that's why I post a seemingly endless string of horrendous police abuse stories just about every day.

I'm sorry but my right to self determination trumps your right to make a fast buck off prison labor made crap.

So, while my own personal philosophy is "less and less government, until there is none" is the goal I am striving for, at this point in the game there can be no denying that a nation, borders, trade and monetary policy that enhances that goal, freedom and individual liberty, for us, the American people is still needed right now.

If this cannot take place within the current boundaries of the nation, as they stand now, if all hope is lost, then I advocate secession.

people forget the history of the auto industry...well looks like they will have to learn through the school of hard knocks. The folks behind all this crap learned how to manipulate the environment for their benefit at their father's knee.

native americans lost out to europeans who will then lose out to those who will pick away our nation as we pay for the privilege of being devoured. This is not what I want for my future or that of my children.

The locals should be concerned, but the globalists make sure the environment is ripe for harvest before suggesting what they want for their intended outcome.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I live in Idaho and most people are very much against it. I don't really care one way or the other but public outcry is against it.

This guy may be the one making the money but I don't know.

Idahoans should oust this SOB from office.

 

[erowe1]

Idahoans should oust this SOB from office.

He's probably one of the closest allies we have in American politics. I'd rather build bridges and see him endorse RP for president than go out of our way to distance ourselves from him. I probably disagree with parts of what he's doing in this too. But it seems like a pretty minor thing to replace him with someone who's bound to be much worse over.

 

[erowe1]

By "us", are you talking about American citizens, or are you saying that the American GOVERNMENT can buy land in China? Because that is what we are talking about here with the Chinese.

I assume the federal government can. Do you have some reason to believe it can't?

 

[jkr]

um...NO?

access DENIED!

I DONT CARE WHAT THE KLINTONS TOLD YOU!

 

[flightlesskiwi]

In many ways these FTZs are akin to the various business subsidies and tax abatements you see being used by local governments to attract businesses to a particular state or city, where they will waive property taxes, build infrastructure and even pay some costs for businesses to relocate to their jurisdiction. As a rule these are usually very bad policy, trading an increase in taxes for the hope of job creation and an increase in the tax base. The problem is that the tax gains are small because taxes are abated, and once the deal runs out there’s nothing to keep a company from leaving again, taking away whatever benefits it brought. It’s the same thing with these FTZs. They hand out unjustifiable benefits to foreign businesses which are not being offered on an equal basis to their domestic competitors. They may help the balance of trade and specific companies partnering with foreign businesses, but the benefits are short term and it’s a terrible example of government interfering in the natural flow of trade to pick winners and losers and benefit some business interest over others.

http://www.fontcraft.com/idiotwars/?p=2716

i could go on for awhile about tax abatements and "infrastructure support" that my own local .gov gives to "encourage development" but i'll just say this: regardless of the "chinese" aspect of this whole thing, the concept of free trade zones is rotten.

to the people are discussing from a "free trade/open borders" standpoint... this deal has nothing to do with free trade. this is corporatism/public private partnerships. all part and parcel of Agenda 21.

and from the standpoint of people who are paying attention to the Agenda 21 mandate and know how far it has spread in this country... let's just say American communities are being strangled by it. many unknowingly.

 

[pcosmar]

hxxp://www.fontcraft.com/idiotwars/?p=2716

i could go on for awhile about tax abatements and "infrastructure support" that my own local .gov gives to "encourage development" but i'll just say this: regardless of the "chinese" aspect of this whole thing, the concept of free trade zones is rotten.

to the people are discussing from a "free trade/open borders" standpoint... this deal has nothing to do with free trade. this is corporatism/public private partnerships. all part and parcel of Agenda 21.

and from the standpoint of people who are paying attention to the Agenda 21 mandate and know how far it has spread in this country... let's just say American communities are being strangled by it. many unknowingly.

Add in the NAFTA Super Highway, The Mexican Port and Customs in Kansas City.
The Proposed (and largely unknown) SPP. and UN mandates and you get a clearer picture of where this is going.

 

[KingRobbStark]

I assume the federal government can. Do you have some reason to believe it can't?

On principal it can't. In a true free market society it can't. The same principal applies to the chinese government.

 

[Carehn]

Idahoans should oust this SOB from office.

I tried along with a lot of us but the Old guard still had a hold of the party at the time. Next time around Otter may go down for this.

I was trying to get this nut elected

Rex is always getting arrested and killing things out of season but he has spirit. The sad thing is Butch Otter may be one of the best Governor in the country and he still sucks and needs to be thrown out.

Latlly he has been saying the right things and doing the right things because he sees the writing on the wall and it would look as if Ron Paul supporters have taken over the state GOP and many of the county GOPS. But its to late to change now and i bet he decides not to run again. Just what i think will go down.

Like is said, I don't much care about this China things but people are ready to hang Otter over it in Idaho. Not very popular move for him.

 

[KingRobbStark]

Of course they don't have that right. They don't have any rights. Neither does the regime in DC, and it owns far more land in this continent than the one in Beijing does.

But if you want to use force stop me from being able to sell my property (that you apparently think is not actually mine) to the regime from Beijing, but at the same time you still want me to be able to sell it to other people who aren't agents of any government, without violating those peoples' rights (such as by making them get pieces of paper from the government that say they're allowed to buy property), then how do you do that?

This is a question of principal. The land owner has the right to sell it to anyone/anything he wants, but does the government have the right of private property?