CFL Spent $350,000 on a pro-war Colorado candidate

[RCA]

From what I'm hearing, C4L didn't spend anything on this. A group with money wanted to run ads for Ken, and they asked if C4L was willing to do it and get free publicity for their survey.

Even IF the money came from somewhere else, there is still the endorsement folly.

 

[angelatc]

From what I'm hearing, C4L didn't spend anything on this. A group with money wanted to run ads for Ken, and they asked if C4L was willing to do it and get free publicity for their survey.

That makes no sense. Nobody in politics is that friendly.

 

[UtahApocalypse]

From what I'm hearing, C4L didn't spend anything on this. A group with money wanted to run ads for Ken, and they asked if C4L was willing to do it and get free publicity for their survey.

Would not change the fact they they supported a neocon. I don't care if the god damn billionaire finally came through.

You would sell your soul for $350,000,?

 

[specsaregood]

Others might have more of a problem with the use of the name.

If a random group can raise money and run an ad for their candidate and stick the CFL logo on it, well just wait until some "progressives" do the same thing for one of their candidates. Or even some "White nationalists".

 

[MsDoodahs]

From what I'm hearing, C4L didn't spend anything on this. A group with money wanted to run ads for Ken, and they asked if C4L was willing to do it and get free publicity for their survey.

So in other words....CFL is a whore?

Gee....THAT will sure make everyone feel loads better...

 

[newbitech]

Even IF the money came from somewhere else, there is still the endorsement folly.

and the promise for more.

So as soon as another candidate answers our survey, we'll probably do another ad stating that

 

[klamath]

If anything I think it will make people realize that they need to contribute directly to candidates and get more involved locally. At least that's what I hope.

No. I don't think you realize how bad this will be. If CFL comes down as a Ron Paul sponsered crooky organization with RP's knowledge and or participation the thought of sending money to any of these other candidate makes me want to puke. If RP can't be trusted I sure as hell am not going to be donating to people like Medina, Schiff, Kokesh. I have had thirty years to watch and double check RP, so if he is running a fly by night organization then you can't even begin to sell me on any other candidate I have only heard bits and pieces of for the last few years.

This RP liberty movement will come to one big assed screaching halt without a doubt.

It is not just about getting even with some top down organization called CFL it will be bringing down RP.
If I can't trust RP there isn't anyone on this forum or in the movement I will ever trust.

 

[eOs]

barack obama fill out dat survay!

 

[Bruno]

Would not change the fact they they supported a neocon. I don't care if the god damn billionaire finally came through.

You would sell your soul for $350,000,?

in gold or FRN's? jk.

 

[pacelli]

So in other words....CFL is a whore?

Gee....THAT will sure make everyone feel loads better...

As tkubic said, that wasn't supposed to come out yet... LOL. Gotta wait until this week's phone bank is full of cash.



To me, it is the principle of it. Helping a former Cheney employee who wants to kill the terrorists "over there" discolors every candidate associated with the CFL.

 

[angelatc]

As I've said elsewhere...the mountain west is where the liberty movement has a good chance. It's definitely possible... although I still think it's pro-Buck millionaires just giving the money to C4L to run ads. If this is the case I don't even mind so much, Buck looks like the better and more viable of the bunch and it may be a good thing for the C4L in Colorado. Others might have more of a problem with the use of the name.

Taking money from war mongers in exchange for services isn't the way some of us had hoped the movement would grow.

 

[rancher89]

Taking money from war mongers in exchange for services isn't the way some of us had hoped the movement would grow.

qft

 

[JoshLowry]

This RP liberty movement will come to one big assed screaching halt without a doubt.

It is not just about getting even with some top down organization called CFL it will be bringing down RP.
If I can't trust RP there isn't anyone on this forum or in the movement I will ever trust.

You can trust Bryan and I. We have nothing to do with Mossad.



Who am I kidding? Trust no one!

 

[angelatc]

It just seems that Ron Paul has a habit of surrounding himself with opportunists. It's not that I don't trust Ron Paul, or his philosophy.

 

[rancher89]

Too trusting?

 

[klamath]

You can trust Bryan and I. We have nothing to do with Mossad.



Who am I kidding? Trust no one!

Everyone knows Bryan is Mossad

Were you counting on that white text to show up on quotation/

 

[newbitech]

Everyone knows Bryan is Mossad

hide the truth in plain site !

 

[johnrocks]

If anything I think it will make people realize that they need to contribute directly to candidates and get more involved locally. At least that's what I hope.

That is hopefully what will happen , I seriously think that is the only route for me going forward.

 

[Chieftain1776]

Taking money from war mongers in exchange for services isn't the way some of us had hoped the movement would grow.

The C4L is only a part of the movement. C4L's endorsements an even smaller part. If they banked some extra money and recognition while giving the endorsement then it's not so offensive to me.

I guess my "rule" would be for C4L to support the most pro-liberty candidate that has a chance as long as it's not non-interventionist money.

 

[Mini-Me]

No. I don't think you realize how bad this will be. If CFL comes down as a Ron Paul sponsered crooky organization with RP's knowledge and or participation the thought of sending money to any of these other candidate makes me want to puke. If RP can't be trusted I sure as hell am not going to be donating to people like Medina, Schiff, Kokesh. I have had thirty years to watch and double check RP, so if he is running a fly by night organization then you can't even begin to sell me on any other candidate I have only heard bits and pieces of for the last few years.

This RP liberty movement will come to one big assed screaching halt without a doubt.

It is not just about getting even with some top down organization called CFL it will be bringing down RP.
If I can't trust RP there isn't anyone on this forum or in the movement I will ever trust.

Ugh, I'm just as upset as anyone about the CFL's ivory tower methodology and complete disrespect for the grassroots, but I think it's way too soon to assume the absolute worst, that the CFL as a whole is a "crooky, fly-by-night" organization. Even if that's the case, the liberty movement will still survive, but you're right that Ron Paul's credibility would be lost forever, and it would cost all of us dearly. I truly hope nothing like this is the case, but if it turns out this way, we can pretty much rest assured that someone deliberately engineered the whole thing for the express purpose of ruining Paul's reputation and crushing us. We've all known for a long time that Paul is too trusting of other people, so the stage was already set for someone to create a true scandal in his name. I just hope that it hasn't happened, and that it never will. In any case, it's way too early to assume this of all things.