CFL Spent $350,000 on a pro-war Colorado candidate

[gls]

As an EX- state coordinator for the C4L, I cannot imagine that this
ad campaign is what it looks like it is.....

They are always pounding the "no supporting candidates" drum.

Just sayin....we need more info, but if this is true...................

Maybe the rules changed following the recent Supreme Court decision that overturned parts of McCain-Feingold?

 

[rancher89]

But what about Gary Howard????

 

[JoshLowry]

Has anyone even confirmed that this organization is the same as the Campaign for Liberty that's related to Ron Paul. It looks to me like it's something else.

Yes, it is confirmed. Friend of mine contacted Mr. Howard and could not get a satisfactory explanation.

This is a fuck up that may cripple the CFL. Pretty much shows it is a top down org since none of the members are deciding where their money goes.

$350,000 that could have been spent on actual liberty related projects.

 

[dr. hfn]

Yes, it is confirmed. Friend of mine contacted Mr. Howard and could not get a satisfactory explanation.

This is a fuck up that may cripple the CFL. Pretty much shows it is a top down org since none of the members are deciding where their money goes.

$350,000 that could have been spent on actual liberty related projects.

 

[rancher89]

I am so glad I stepped down last week....this is just horrible.....

 

[erowe1]

I think the fact that Gary Howard is speaking for the expenditure is pretty damning.

Every one of us should go put a CFL blog entry up about this very topic.

You're right. I wasn't familiar with Gary Howard.

This is just really surprising to me.

 

[brandon]

Who is the CFL infiltrator(s) that approved this expenditure?

 

[ItsTime]

Yes, it is confirmed. Friend of mine contacted Mr. Howard and could not get a satisfactory explanation.

This is a fuck up that may cripple the CFL. Pretty much shows it is a top down org since none of the members are deciding where their money goes.

$350,000 that could have been spent on actual liberty related projects.

Yeah grassroots did so much better with a f#cking $400,000 blimp

 

[UtahApocalypse]

Has anyone even confirmed that this organization is the same as the Campaign for Liberty that's related to Ron Paul. It looks to me like it's something else.

Gary Howard, communications director for the Campaign For Liberty, told TPMDC that the ad is not an endorsement of Buck, but is instead intended to promote their candidate surveys. "It's not a support ad or an endorsement ad, it's just based on our candidate surveys," said Howard. "And we want every candidate to answer our surveys. So as soon as another candidate answers our survey, we'll probably do another ad stating that."

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/...rado-praising-senate-candidate-video.php#more


http://www.campaignforliberty.com/profile.php?member=Gary_Howard

Gary Howard
HQ
Location: Arlington, VA
Last login: 12/28/09

As a member of the communications team for the Campaign For Liberty. It is my responsibility to widely promote its message and formulate a general public affairs strategy. This entails finding strategic uses of traditional and new media technology to disseminate messages and communicate to the public.

Interesting that Gary has not been on in almost a month. Has he gone rouge?? Someone from C4L has about 24 hours to reply to this or im canceling my membership.

Also to those saying that its not a endorsement, or a support to this candidate... Its still $350,000 that could have been used on some MUCH better purposes.

 

[JoshLowry]

Yeah grassroots did so much better with a f#cking $400,000 blimp

Apples and oranges.

At least the donators knew where their money was going - on a blimp in support of a legit liberty candidate.

 

[pacelli]

Not a penny more. And Ron Paul has his name on this organization. 2.5 million that was leftover from the presidential campaign was funneled into the CFL.

So much for principles. I wish Ron didn't trust people so much. The sad part is that I seriously doubt Ron had any say at all in this bullshit.

 

[aclove]

That Open Secrets link points to campaign finance reports for Campaign for Liberty from 2006, but C4L didn't even exist until after Dr. Paul suspended his presidential campaign in 2008. How is that even possible?

 

[Original_Intent]

This really pisses me off. The next letter iget asking ofr donations, I am going to tell them where to stick it. This is just the exact same B.S. we are fighting against, if this is true it is clear that the CFL is only concerned about keeping the dollars flowing in and growing their organization, just like the problem with most elected candidates. Looks like a classic sell-out to me.

 

[MRoCkEd]

That Open Secrets link points to campaign finance reports for Campaign for Liberty from 2006, but C4L didn't even exist until after Dr. Paul suspended his presidential campaign in 2008. How is that even possible?

The advertisement and Howard's statement show that our C4L was involved, but perhaps they got the $350,000 figure wrong?

 

[ItsTime]

Apples and oranges.

At least the donators knew where their money was going - on a blimp in support of a legit liberty candidate.

Nope its not. Because Trevor used email lists not intended for their purpose (money bomb) and used it for his own ventures. Same kind of shit. Collect something (email/money) then use it for something else/unexpected.

 

[dr. hfn]

It is disgusting that the C4L isn't transparent with its money.

 

[ItsTime]

There seems to be another "Campaign for Liberty" organization based out of Colorado.


The advertisement and Howard's statement show that our C4L was involved, but perhaps they got the $350,000 figure wrong?

So it might not be OUR C4L?

 

[brandon]

This really pisses me off. The next letter iget asking ofr donations, I am going to tell them where to stick it. This is just the exact same B.S. we are fighting against, if this is true it is clear that the CFL is only concerned about keeping the dollars flowing in and growing their organization, just like the problem with most elected candidates. Looks like a classic sell-out to me.

I don't disagree, but what are they selling out for? What could they possibly gain from supporting some no-name neocon that's only at 15% in the polls? Who is this supposed to bring in?

 

[dr. hfn]

So it might not be OUR C4L?

http://www.opensecrets.org/usearch/...7907462955562473:nlldkv0jvam&cof=FORID:11#890 who knows

 

[ItsTime]

I don't disagree, but what are they selling out for? What could they possibly gain from supporting some no-name neocon that's only at 15% in the polls? Who is this supposed to bring in?

To Split the neo-con vote further? lol